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Thanks NWR!
I do watch a lot of those think-about-what's-best series and the lot...

But the idea for giving a character that's not really one of the main ones for that long his/her own series is crap. If they'd make a game for TOS or Zero or X series like the usual ones (not like CM) in which you can play several characters (one at a time, you can change after each time you finished the storyline) and you can play the evil guys (Mavericks and Sigma, the RM's and Wily, Copy X and the Guardians), THAN you could have a good hit at good games. Not Axl SERIES, but just a few games about all characters in that series.

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Okay, 'Wind'
(that's Dutch for 'Fart', and also just 'wind' too, but it's still weird)

Hmm... one-on-one... Mega Man Fighting Tournement... nice idea. They could also put TOS, X and Zero series in a nice mix on this one. You start with Mega Man, Bass, Proto, X, Axl and Zero as playable characters, than all other characters will be unlockable in some way... Hmm...

Y'know, somehow this is giving me an 'Metal Gear Mega: The Twin Bots' idea. Mega Man and the lot always did it with fighting and blasting their way through, why not stealth for a change? It would be nice, and that will be a good excuse for CoJ to give those Axl fans a game that is just a little more centered around him.

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Man. I can not tell you how long I have pondered over that idea of a Megaman Crossover fighting game.

Think about it! It's been proven by MvC that Megaman can function as a fighting game character. This way, we could throw in all the different Megaman characters, have some real Megaman Bosses, maybe a couple of Mavericks/ Robot Masters/ Enemy Navis/ ...whatever's in MMZ/ MML Robots... Man, that would be awesome! And the Dr.Wily robot you could fight as a main boss would have different forms, and all that other cool stuff.

Plus, the liscensing wouldn't be that hard to get since it's series withing Capcom, right?

[Edited on 29-9-2005 by Heatman.EXE]

[quote]Originally posted by Heatman.EXE
Man. I can not tell you how long I have pondered over that idea of a Megaman Crossover fighting game.

Think about it! It's been proven by MvC that Megaman can function as a fighting game character. This way, we could throw in all the different Megaman characters, have some real Megaman Bosses, maybe a couple of Mavericks/ Robot Masters/ Enemy Navis/ ...whatever's in MMZ/ MML Robots... Man, that would be awesome! And the Dr.Wily robot you could fight as a main boss would have different forms, and all that other cool stuff.

Plus, the liscensing wouldn't be that hard to get since it's series withing Capcom, right?

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Right.

And yeah, MM and the lot can really good function as fighting game characters. But they should make a version for each series, and since TOS X and Zero have the most in common, they can make a wicked storyline for an intro in which their timelines are fused into a different dimension (Wind'll probably love the supernatural thingy, right? The sig, Wind, the sig...). And there it all continues.
And for BN, they can also make a Harpuia.EXE, Leviathan.EXE, Phantom.EXE, X.EXE, Fefnir.EXE...

axl series? that's the stupidest thing i ever heard!

there is no way they will hav an axl series

I think it would be cool.

Well I have to agree with axl z because I really liked axl as a character on my megaman game. his bg story should be very interseting-like how/why he left Red Alert and well i can't say much more..... I like Axl so much i actually bought the action figure (Yep.It's true)

Same with me.I got him and its now iI cant find him.

[Edited on 25-3-2006 by axl z]

I just think Axl has mainly a girl fanbase because he's "cute". Everyone else thinks he's annoying. I have no clue since I never played the games he's in. But he certainly sounds annoying.

Well yeah he's cute, but he came in handy in beating some levels. He moves a lot faster that Zero does in MegamanX8. I personally think that Axl is not annoying. Though can someone please explain to me how he is?

He can also glide or fly.

Yeah I know. When I got white Axl, he could hover as long as wanted when he was shooting. How cool.

I think Mega X or the other thousand people who find Axl annoying will gladly tell you why he is annoying.

AXl is very,very ANNOYING!!he is a person that is crazy over guns!and i agree with megaman x from MMX7,yar x,you should not teach axl to shoot:devil:

I DONT USE GUNS!But hes cool he was the guy I beat all the bosses with.

i used Zero the beat the bosess because, he is o so cool.

Okay, my opinion:

Axl: Okay, a new hunter was really unexpected. But I liked his personality - Capcom actually showed his progression into the Maverick Hunter he is now - in X7 he acted just as everyone had said - like a kid whose dream has come true. But in the end of that game,
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Then, in CM, he is shown as a bit more mature, still a bit free-going, but he knew what he wanted - answers. Which we got in X8, when they finally finished his personality shift - he got mature, serious, and determined to do the job right (plus a better voice actor). In the end, he was okay.

X7: Good game. One of my favorites, actually. Many rail on it for the 3-D. Sure, it was flawed, but it still handled well and the garphics went far because of it. The storyline is excellent, the stages and difficulty were right-on, and the last battle against
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The storyline reasons for an Axl series: Why are there any storyline reasons for the Axl series? Here we go, beginning to end: (note spoilers for both x7, x8, and maybe CM)

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My thoughts on an Axl series: Don't make it too long, Capcom. As long as the playing is good, I'll get it. Don't worry, all - Axl has matured and is ready for his own mission. Stop lagging on him.

BN: Why is everyone happy BN is over? You don't need a revolution with every sequel! Remember, Capcom tried something new with X7 - 3-D - and many hated it. So why should they get you mad at BN too? You're opposing yourselves. Besides, this is the X board. This whole argument should be on the BN board.

Edited by HighMaxOmega on July 13, 2006 at 13:12:42.

Edited by HighMaxOmega on July 13, 2006 at 14:29:49.

X8 wasn't too bad. But in this day and age, Capcom really has no excuse for bad controls in their games, especially something that sells like Megaman.

X7 was like vomit rolled in vomit. It was just that bad. There was nothing good about it. The 3-D was bad, the story was laughable, Axl was annoying and X was an idiotic pacifist where he's dumb enough to think a problem will go away if he closes his eyes and pretends it isn't there--as opposed to the "normal" pacifist that he usually is where he hates fighting but does it because he has to.

I just read through this thread and I have to admit... a lot of you Axl haters have no idea what you're talking about.

First of all, saying that they shouldn't make the Axl game or an Axl series because you hate Axl won't get you anywhere. Capcom will not care if one person has something against one character, they've got way more money than we can ever dream of.

Now, I'm a fan of not just Axl but the entire Megaman original timelines series... Classic, X, Zero, Legends, and soon to be ZX when it comes out (yet to play BN or Command Mission, but I've got nothing against them and I'm willing to try them). And I've got plenty of reasons, REAL REASONS, as to why a Rockman Axl game would work.

1) The fanbase for Axl. I know its not big, he's a new character. But look at Legends. That wasn't very popular either. Not many enjoyed Rock Volnutt despite the fresh new take on the metaverse. Now look at him. He's got a growing fanbase and people WANT a Rockman DASH 3. What's to say the same won't happen of Axl? We've all got to start somewhere.

2) The character development. Sorry guys, but Axl not having a whole lot? Please. If anything Axl has more character than Whiney McEmo X and Zero the Legendary Bishie Bot. (No offense, X and Z fans, I like X and Zero too but this has to be pointed out) X was guilt-tripped by HIMSELF to join the Hunters. Zero is a robot Inuyasha. He even has the long hair to match. He's got an evil father--Dr Wily--and an "evil" brother--Bass. But despite that he became good. And he wears a red outfit and has a sword. Come on. Bishie-bot all the way.

Axl, as was said earlier, had a case of hero-worship. He was excited to fight alongside the heroes of the age, Mega Man X and Zero. Look where that got him... he, along with X and Zero, killed his mentor Red. That's enough to sober ANYONE up in a war. He's developed his own ideals for the Mavericks, and in X8, despite Alia's scolding, X agreed with him that someone has to take care of the Mavericks. Character? He's got it. Besides, he's not old and world-weary like X and Zero, he's pretty new. He's open for further development, and what better way to develop his character than in his own series?

Also, Axl is a prototype reploid like X and Zero, which shows, unofficially, he's got a much better chance to survive. Look at Rock and Blues. They were prototypes and they destroyed everything Wily threw at them. X and Zero are prototypes, and they wiped out everything Sigma threw at them. You would have a hard time killing him off. After all, it took atmospheric re-entry on the outside of a space-based energy cannon, fighting against a madman to the bitter end to finish Zero off once and for all.

3) Zero. Yes, Zero had a huge fanbase when he got his own game. He was in eleven games. But look at this... Zero, despite the creators wanting him to be the next Mega Man, started out as a SECONDARY CHARACTER who was killed by the end of the first game. Yes, he was brought back, and the Zero the Lemming jokes were spawned. But, look at the Zero games. He didn't get development, he got re-development. He started over from scratch, he's not the soldier anymore. And even still, he got killed off by the end of the series. This time for good. The same could be said of Axl and that'd explain why Axl was not mentioned during MMZ2, MMZ3, and MMZ4. So he'd have a good use, and though I hate to say it, it would please a number of the anti-Axl fans out there.

4) The Bass Comparison. You have to remember, Bass has only been in three platformer games, really. MM7, MM8, and MM&B. He got pretty popular. Axl's been in three games: X7, X8, and CM. And he's getting popular as well. Why else would this Rockman Axl rumor have even been spawned if there hadn't been a fanbase for him?

5) Plotline. Again, there can be a viable plot for an Axl game/series. In fact, there's enormous amounts of potential for it! Look at Mega Man ZX. ZX, and Capcom's confirmation of its presence between Zero and Legends, shows that Capcom has begun to bridge storyline gap. Why not do the same for an Axl series? Why not bridge X and Zero: the Maverick and Elf Wars. Think about it: You can elaborate on the Lumine infection from the injury Axl sustained at the end of X8. You show the creation of the Mother Elf. You can explain who Dr. Weil got his hands on Zero's body to make Omega. You can show X and Zero's battle against Omega, and X using his body to seal the Dark Elf. Look at it game-wise:

MMA1: It could be the tail-end of the Maverick Wars. Here you'd elaborate with Lumine and show why there aren't any NG Reploids in the Zero era... you know, like a genocide of them by mavericks or something. PLENTY of character building opportunities for Axl with that, my friends.

MMA2: Here you could do the creation of the Mother Elf, and the founding of Neo-Arcadia. Axl could help X implement it into ending the Maverick Wars for good, and at the end, Dr Weil corrupting and cursing the Mother Elf to make it his Dark Elf.

MMA3: The beginning of the Elf Wars, and the creation of Omega using Zero's stolen original body. You could have Axl helping to make the new body for Zero with the help of X.

MMA4: The end of the Elf Wars, the defeat of Omega, and the banishment of Dr Weil from Neo-Arcadia. You could have Axl dying or becoming a cyber elf, like Elpizo, at the end. Axl would need liberate the Baby Elves or something while X and Zero hold off and finally defeat Omega, so that he can be sealed away and launched off into outer space, but Zero disappears. X and Axl keep fighting until X sacrifices his body to seal away the Dark Elf, and it could be Axl that finally puts an end to Dr Weil's reign of terror, so that the mad scientist is banished from Neo-Arcadia in his new regenerative body.

6) Skills. You think X and Zero have much more skill than Axl? Sorry, but no. He's got skills. He lacks experience, but he's already proven himself to have skills. He's got his own unique fighting style and special abilities. X has his weapon copy and his armor systems from the Light Capsules. Zero has his immunity to the Sigma Virus, and his double jump and air-dashing abilities. Axl has his Chameleon Chip and his natural hovering capabilities. You see, while X is defensive with his spiffy armors and his X-Buster, and while Zero is a hard-hitter with his fancy Z-Saber and Z-Buster, Axl is the more cunning of the three. As said before,
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Not by tearing him apart like Zero, or vaporizing him with plasma like X, but by surprising him. And his Chameleon Chip would allow him various stealth opportunities. Imagine... if Copy X had Axl brainwashed or something, he could've wiped out the Resistance from the inside from the get-go.

7) Gameplay. That shouldn't be too hard. Mix X and Zero games... you know, give it eight bosses and Axl inherits something from each one, like a new weapon as was done in X8, but give it the story/world layout and mission based settings of Zero. Also, the DS could work for aiming weapons, something similar to Model FX's Knuckle Busters in ZX. Instead of tracing a firing path, you can have Axl pinpoint various objects to shoot, or you could use the tool to draw an arc on the touch screen, and Axl will fire at anything in that path. His hover feature can be incorporated into the game as well, it shouldn't be too hard. After all, Zero regained his double jump in MMZ3 and MMZ4, didn't he?

So, all in all, I think Axl getting his own series or game would be a great idea, and more importantly, a USEABLE idea. It's far from impossible, and it'd be a great way to bridge that substantially wide gap between the X and Zero eras. He's got a viable fanbase, he's got the skill, he's got the character, and he's got the attitude to get himself a series for himself. You just have to look beyond your own prejudices to see it.

Edited by RisingDragon on July 14, 2006 at 2:03:16.

X? Emo? Hah, I stopped reading after that.

RisingDragon, you have a lot of point there. I don't want this to turn into an argument, but look at it! It just flows! He gives his opinion of Axl, backs it up superbly, then goes into detail about how the new series could work. Amazing.

But one detail I wanted to mention:
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Dealing with Weil/M.Elf:
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Again, RisingDragon, nice post. I'm looking forward to the series so long as it sticks to your storyline and doesn't go off into "Axl-land," a complete world where only Axl's mysteries exist.

*raises hand* LET ME TRY! I certainly won't asskiss, because well, I don't have Omega in my name.

O SNAP. They've played the games he's been in, can't stand him..saw all the canonical stuff (at least, Mega X definitely is up to snuff) yet "don't know what they're talking about" because GASP they hate your beloved character. Get your head out of your fanboy rear.



True, they'll see just how much money you Axl fanboys will dole out first.



So..this is supposed to make us go "oh he's not so bad"?



OMG YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

..infact, well it seems you don't. Yeah, we sure know a hell of a lot more about Axl than Zero. Right. Zero has had about every X game starting at 4, devoted to him..and 4 of his own games. We've learned plenty.



Guilt tripped? More like he does not want to fight, but must to save what's left. He had the choice to fight or not, he doesn't enjoy it, but he does it for justice and the american way.



Die in a tire fire--oh and Bass isn't his "brother", hell Bass isn't even truly "evil"..he's just one of those cheesy "let ME kill Megaman" rivals, like Protoman was in the cartoon.



Yeah, I'm totally buying your arguement now that the only thing you can remark on is Zero's hair.



Yeah, he's new..so every new reploid in X should have their own series just so they can get "character development? (What did poor Zero do during those 6 games? Sit there and say nothing I guess, he had no character development til his own series!) Wow I can't wait to play Rockman Alia (actually she's more interesting than Axl, you know I'd probably play her games) and Rockman Cinnamon.



Lets see him die 5 times, and see how well of a chance of "surviving" he has.




Wow I guess you haven't played any games with Zero in them, ever.



....Zero's had a huge fanbase since X1 for fuck's sake.




Hahahhahahahahahhahaaha, right.



Or you know, Inafune wrote the MMZero series and didn't want Axl in it, because..well we all know why.



Yeah or you know..Capcom could continue to make the games they want to, as in ZX..and BN. Or is BN dying?



what
The robot with Limitless Potential™ has less skill than Axl? You're a funny one.




Yeah, but Axl doesn't exist in the MMZ storyline, thankfully.



This coming from someone who called X "emo". Hahahahhaha. Listen, most of us don't like Axl, there's nothing wrong with that. Stop acting like he's a real person and we're hurting his preshous feewings. Get off your fanboy soapbox while you're at it.

Ohh that sucks....I dont want to see a Axl series since his the sucky ass in the X series...I prefer the X series to go on and on....I wonder if X9 will releasing end of the month or next year...

Edited by megaman x rocks! on September 15, 2006 at 2:45:30.

I agree, I'm not interested in a game JUST about Axl, but having another X game that reveals his story sounds good as long as they don't just slap it together.