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Right now, your Internet company doesn't get to choose which websites open quickly on your computer. They can't decide that Google will open more quickly than Yahoo, or that the website of a company they own will open more quickly than a small business competitor. That's because of Net Neutrality--the rule that's been in place since the Internet was created that says Internet service providers can't discriminate between websites.

Dominant telephone and cable companies (like AT&T, Verizon, BellSouth, Comcast, and Time Warner) want to permanently eliminate Net Neutrality so they can put tollbooths on the Internet and prioritize sites that pay them the most. They've been quite blatant about it--here's what one top executive told the Washington Post:

"William L. Smith, chief technology officer for Atlanta-based BellSouth Corp., told reporters and analysts that an Internet service provider such as his firm should be able, for example, to charge Yahoo Inc. for the opportunity to have its search site load faster than that of Google Inc." (Washington Post, December 1, 2005)

If Google may get outbid for the right to work quickly on people’s computers, one can imagine the fate of small businesses, nonprofit organizations, activist groups, religious groups, and other everyday Internet users that use the Internet to communicate. And in rural areas, where the open Internet allows small businesses and entrepreneurs to make a good living through e-commerce, the end of equal access to the Internet for the little guy means more younger people moving away to find opportunities.

http://www.civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet/

In order for this lobbying system to work, it will also require sites in general to load more slowly (because in order to make one site faster then another, since you cannot speed up it's natural bitrate, you will have to slow down the lower-paying sites). This last sentence was put in by God.

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This is only one viewpoint of this you realize... Although I am in agreement with Net Neutrality...

Edited by Black Dranzer.exe on December 25, 2006 at 9:56:28.


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You think someone here would AGREE O_O?

And yes, generally petitions do present the side of the issue they are aiming for you to help with....

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....?

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It's Hollow. Sometimes, we just smile, and nod, and pretend like we understand. X3

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ONOS! My tinfoil hat has a dent in it!

CUTCUTCUTCUTCUTCUT


I must say, I'm at a loss :huh:


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ONOS! My tinfoil hat has a dent in it!

CUTCUTCUTCUTCUTCUT


Oh look, we broke Hollow's mind.


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Besides, the good guys already won.

I got an e-mail while ago about Net Neutrality guys having a party in Chicago to celebrate.


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*Gets a picture of Luke blowing up the Death Star followed by an image of Ewoks dancing two movies later*

That kind of victory/party?

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Yeah. On New Year's eve of all things. XD


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ONOS! My tinfoil hat has a dent in it!

CUTCUTCUTCUTCUTCUT


Oh look, we broke Hollow's mind.


We don't have the unique parts to fix it either, oh well, grab the duct tape...


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Well, we all knew this day would come. It doesn't make it any easier though... we have to put Hollow down.

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Necro would know what?

Obviously you all don't know what a tinfoil hatter is.

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More like we don't care.


"Why do you care that I care that you care enough to care that I care for caring?" "Conversation isn't your strong point, is it?"
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Necro would know what?

Obviously you all don't know what a tinfoil hatter is.


A tin-foil hat (abbreviated TFH), also tinfoil hat, is a general term for a piece of headgear made from one or more sheets of tin foil, aluminium foil, or other similar material. Some people wear the hats in the belief that they act to shield the brain from such influences as electromagnetic fields, or against mind control and/or mind reading. Such hats are very uncommon in mainstream society, as the injuries they might guard against are highly speculative, and their effectiveness in preventing such harm would be dubious even if the danger were plausible. Instead, the concept has become a popular stereotype and term of derision; the phrase serves as a byword for paranoia and is associated with conspiracy theorists.

None of which has to do with Net Neutrality.

Edited by Mega X.exe on December 27, 2006 at 21:28:57.

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I was talking about "God", you nitwits.

And the net neutrality thing fits "paranoia" pretty well.

Edited by HollowTorment on December 29, 2006 at 5:51:26.

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And the net neutrality thing fits "paranoia" pretty well.


Except for being, y'know, realistic.

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Would it not have been a lot simpler just to say you think God's being paranoid? :huh:


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Would it not have been a lot simpler just to say you think God's being paranoid? :huh:


When Hollow said "tinfoil hatter", I got the impression of a person in a dark room with tin foil wrapped all over their head and repeating the phrase "They can't read my thoughts." As everybody knows, aliens can't steal your thoughts as long as you have tin foil to protect you. BP

I really don't care for Net Neutrality. The most popular and important sites (Government information, encyclopedias, and such) wouldn't be affected. Plus, this will make people think twice before creating another useless website.

Edited by Breakman on December 29, 2006 at 16:20:15.

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Yeah, but Doc might have to pay a fee in order for his site to be usable. Doc might decide (and rightfully so) to not pay, so traffic is slow, people stop visiting, Doc shuts it down, no IO.

Useless websites get shut down, but so do good ones without money? Is it worth it? Hell no.

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If it means keeping great sites like this up and free, I've got no problem whatsoever with dealing with useless sites.


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Okay wait, so I'm going to put you on mind control with a bill that apparently has been declined?

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Why not? It's not like we use logic on this site.


"Why do you care that I care that you care enough to care that I care for caring?" "Conversation isn't your strong point, is it?"
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Oh yeah... everyone's favorite thing about it!

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When Hollow said "tinfoil hatter", I got the impression of a person in a dark room with tin foil wrapped all over their head and repeating the phrase "They can't read my thoughts." As everybody knows, aliens can't steal your thoughts as long as you have tin foil to protect you. BP


*gives Break a cookie*

YOU WIN THE INTERNET!!

(onos I gave Break the internet no more neutrality)

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If it means keeping great sites like this up and free, I've got no problem whatsoever with dealing with useless sites.


:huh: But this site could end up closing along with the crap ones. Pretty much free Internet Forum hosting services such as Hyperboards, Probaords, Ezboards, etc. will either become pay for, covered in ads or slow as hell, so they will end up closing.

This would have been a terrable thing to happen.


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This isn't hosted by one of those extremely lame and cheap services. Doc pays to keep it up. Shutting down a message board just because it is a forum is similiar to the sort of thing China does. That's not going to happen in the US.
Besides, isn't Doc Canadian? Meaning his forum is based in Canadia?
(w00t level 16.)

Edited by MagimanV1.5 on January 4, 2007 at 10:42:58.


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Just to correct one thing, Magi.

Doc may be Canadian but the forum located in Taiwan for all we know. =P.

But for the record, the server this site is on is located in Canada. Same with mine, its located in Canada, and I pay to keep it up.


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