Topic: Mother Elf Curse = Sigma Virus?

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Well, the biggest bit of evidence I have is this:

Omega is Zero's original body. When paired with the Mother Elf under Weil's (yeah right) curse, it got stronger. Why? Because it's the Sigma Virus - remember X5!

Okay, and another idea on why...

X seals Sigma off with the Mother Elf to finish him, right? So if the elf simply killed Sigma, why would X guard it? X could just use it to eradicate all his foes, but no - because Sigma's in there!

And wherever he is now, I hope he's coming back...

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Sigma's virus wasn't what made Zero strong in X5, though. It was a combination of Sigma's virus and the Colony virus which formed a strain that was, in function, identical to the Zero strain.

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He wasn't talking about Zero going Maverick after the Colony Crash. He was talking about the Sigma Virus during gameplay that made him temporarily invincible. Lifesavor said to Signas that Zero was growing stronger because of the Virus. That's what he's referring to.

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However at the rate Capcom wraps things up... We'll never know for sure.

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Still, with the Power of Logic and Common Sense, we can come to a very plausible conclusion.

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Still, with the Power of Logic and Common Sense, we can come to a very plausible conclusion.

Which is?

Plausible? Everythings "plausible" with MM nowadays - Sigma could morph into a rubber ducky and KI wouldn't care.

RD got what I was saying. And I guess the most disappointing part of not having a good Sigma reference in the Zero series is that Zero 4 had a great setup for him - you go into Eurasia early on (and the crash area isn't funky and blue anymore - awwww), the true enemy in Ragnarok after the blast hit Weil was anonymous - gee, good place -but, however, the old git somehow A)survived - wouldn't a blast that big completely annihilate that tiny robot body? and B)made it up to Ragnarok without Zero's knowledge. Maybe he was the one who broke the teleporter on his way back up.

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Omega is Zero's original body.

Not quite. Quoting Zero 3's script:

"The defeated Omega is using your original body." ~ X
"Omega was made by Dr. Weil, but was banished to space." ~ File K

Zero's original body became an empty shell somehow, which Omega ended up reusing.

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Weil also said that he took the original body and added armor to bring out its full potential.

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Omega is Zero's original body.

Not quite. Quoting Zero 3's script:

"The defeated Omega is using your original body." ~ X
"Omega was made by Dr. Weil, but was banished to space." ~ File K

Zero's original body became an empty shell somehow, which Omega ended up reusing.

Doc, you're only proving me right. As a shell. That shell is, indeed, Zero's original body. And the Sigma virus makes it stronger. I'm not saying Omega is Zero completely - just the body.

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Just read something interesting.

According to the Rockman Zero Official Complete Works, when Zero sealed himself away for 102 years to remove some component he felt was a danger--presumably the Virus and his ability to easily pass it on to other Reploids, even against his will--during the time period his mind was removed from his body, so that the original body, and the unique properties of the Zero Virus, could be studied extensively. This research was for the unique anti-virus program known as the Mother Elf.

Dr. Weil was one of the scientists doing this research, and he eventually stole Zero's original body and used it to create Omega. He then stole and cursed the Mother Elf, sparking the Elf Wars. A copy body was created, and Zero's mind downloaded into it so that he may fight alongside X.

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Just read something interesting.

According to the Rockman Zero Official Complete Works, when Zero sealed himself away for 102 years to remove some component he felt was a danger--presumably the Virus and his ability to easily pass it on to other Reploids, even against his will--during the time period his mind was removed from his body, so that the original body, and the unique properties of the Zero Virus, could be studied extensively. This research was for the unique anti-virus program known as the Mother Elf.

Dr. Weil was one of the scientists doing this research, and he eventually stole Zero's original body and used it to create Omega. He then stole and cursed the Mother Elf, sparking the Elf Wars. A copy body was created, and Zero's mind downloaded into it so that he may fight alongside X.

I love reading interesting stuff! But I'd like to know just HOW he cursed it, you know? In a waorld of robots and machines, "curses".... well, you know what I mean.

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He probably just swore the whole time.

Or he "cursed" it by programming it to become "evil" or something. >.>

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So... he used a Windows O.S. on the Mother Elf?

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So... he used a Windows O.S. on the Mother Elf?

If we were to do that, how was it so strong?

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Windows is unholy strong. It's just that only Bill Gates can unleash its true potential.

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But then the Mother Elf would've gotten spyware.

I wonder how a robot would act if it got spyware.

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So... he used a Windows O.S. on the Mother Elf?

It beats beautiful crap (i.e. Apple)

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No, you people are getting it all wrong. The Mother Elf was running Linux: it's hard to getting used to, not exactly smooth to use, but once you're a master at it, you can do some impressive stuff! Dr. Weil merely read all the manuals and learned it's hidden potential. ^_-

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So... Omega, after being fused with the Mother Elf, was defeated using a Blue Screen Of Death?

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No, you people are getting it all wrong. The Mother Elf was running Linux: it's hard to getting used to, not exactly smooth to use, but once you're a master at it, you can do some impressive stuff! Dr. Weil merely read all the manuals and learned it's hidden potential. ^_-

But NOBODY reads the manual!

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But NOBODY reads the manual!

Hence why Dr. Weil has so much power: he actually bothered!

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But NOBODY reads the manual!

If Weil is a nobody, then he probably doesn't have a life. And how do you kill that which has no life? >___>

Edited by Morphman on February 26, 2007 at 15:42:49.

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But NOBODY reads the manual!

If Weil is a nobody, then he probably doesn't have a life. And how do you kill that which has no life? >___>

Edited by Morphman on February 26, 2007 at 15:42:49.

Headshot.

It works on zombies, so...

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Impressive, I love how this topic just went crazy.

Anyway, I love the theories. I heard that in X6, zero seals himself away to get rid of the sigma virus. (I don�t know where X7 and X8 came from then�). But I heard that it was an alternate ending or something�
But, that�s what�s supposed to start the zero series. Sometime in between, someone separates him from his body, weil finds his body and uses it for omega. Zero gets a new body. But if he got a new body, wouldn�t the sigma virus disappear with it or was it within zero himself, not just his body?

I like the idea that the Mother elf is a �cure� for the sigma virus�

-Mystic-

Wow... its been so long since ive been on here... 04.07.2010

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Impressive, I love how this topic just went crazy.

Anyway, I love the theories. I heard that in X6, zero seals himself away to get rid of the sigma virus. (I don�t know where X7 and X8 came from then�). But I heard that it was an alternate ending or something�
But, that�s what�s supposed to start the zero series. Sometime in between, someone separates him from his body, weil finds his body and uses it for omega. Zero gets a new body. But if he got a new body, wouldn�t the sigma virus disappear with it or was it within zero himself, not just his body?

I like the idea that the Mother elf is a �cure� for the sigma virus�

-Mystic-

I just explained all that! What I said was the official explanation given by Capcom in the Rockman Zero Offical Complete Works sourcebook.

"Why do you care that I care that you care enough to care that I care for caring?" "Conversation isn't your strong point, is it?"
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