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So, when you first isnert Devil May Cry into your PS3, you can be expected to wait 30 minutes before you can play. Many people have asked Capcom about this?



Their response? They literally suggest that you leave the game to load and get a sandwhich and a drink.


http://blog.capcom.com/archives/839


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Ah well, must have something to do with the disc format or the PS3 itself. The 360 version doesn't require this.

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Yeah, I have this problem... Just another reason you can't spell "crap" without "cap"


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Excuse me as I Nerd Rage a bit here:

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Wah! The game takes 20 minutes to install the first time. Wah! Have you ever played a PC game? At least we aren’t making you shuffle multiple discs into a ROM drive, or continuously click “Yes!” on a series of endless Windows dialog boxes. Installing on a console may seem like a weird idea, but there’s a real benefit. Unreal Tournament also has an option to install files onto your PS3; I’ve done it and it makes a great game even better.


Hey! Here's a concept: CONSOLE =/= PC. When I play on a CONSOLE, I don't expect the same loading and installing crap I get on a PC. I expect the game to run from the get-go. Why? Because consoles are specifically designed to play games. It's to be expected on PCs, which do more than gaming, but a console's only job that matters, in my opinion, is to PLAY GAMES. Oh, but is that too much to assume on my part?

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Once installed — once, mind, not every time you play, as I’ve seen “reported” on certain web sites less interested in facts than in OMG histrionics — the PS3 version of the game has near-Super Nintendo speed load times. You’ll be amazed how fast levels load, the virtually instantaneous transition from cut scenes to action and that you’re continuously playing the game, as opposed to staring at loading screens of a door opening every time you move from one room to the next.


Holy freaking crap, levels that don't take any time to load and nearly seamless transactions from cutscene to game? I've never seen anything like that before on consoles beyond SNES!

Oh, WAIT. Yes I have.

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Huh, that's weird. I don't have to install anything on my PS2 to get this game to run. Must be some sort of error.

Edited by The Helldragon on February 7, 2008 at 10:40:49.

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Yeah, because it's not like a PS3 game will be any more hardware intensive than a PS2 game. I mean, really.

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That's not the point. It's a CONSOLE. Maybe the technology is still new, but when you choose to develop for the PS3 (which is the hardest console to develop for right now), hey, crap like this happens. It's still a frickin' console, and if God of War could do it, don't you think that's somewhat possible with PS3 without having to install crap?

I could've bought the reason more if Capcom didn't decide to take a snarky-ass tone with me. No problem, though. DMC will slowly slide to suck like damn near every other Capcom property under the sun, so I've got no reason to worry.

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That's not the point. It's a CONSOLE. Maybe the technology is still new, but when you choose to develop for the PS3 (which is the hardest console to develop for right now), hey, crap like this happens. It's still a frickin' console, and if God of War could do it, don't you think that's somewhat possible with PS3 without having to install crap?


Maybe. But if installing means that I will have better performance, than I am more than happy to do it. That's one of the strengths of a console as opposed to a PC, after all.

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I could've bought the reason more if Capcom didn't decide to take a snarky-ass tone with me.


You say that as though there's something wrong with a snarky-ass tone.

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No problem, though. DMC will slowly slide to suck like damn near every other Capcom property under the sun, so I've got no reason to worry.


Phoenix Wright disproves your hypothesis.

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Phoenix Wright disproves your hypothesis.


For NOW.

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Phoenix Wright disproves your hypothesis.


For NOW.


Is this the part where I come in with an OBJECTION! joke or is it sort of implied by now?


Or, the poster formerly known as Pri- I mean, rockmaniskool.

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Yeah, probably.

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That's not the point. It's a CONSOLE. Maybe the technology is still new, but when you choose to develop for the PS3 (which is the hardest console to develop for right now), hey, crap like this happens. It's still a frickin' console, and if God of War could do it, don't you think that's somewhat possible with PS3 without having to install crap?


I second that motion. While I could understand a game that'd want to install a few key files, the amount of data considered here is insane. This is a game console: it's NOT supposed to have an installation process!


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For NOW.


And until it does, your statement shall remain incorrect.

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The X-Box, X-Box 360, and Playstation 3 are no longer consoles, IMO. More like glorified personal computers.

Which is sad, really.


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And until it does, your statement shall remain incorrect.


It's only a matter of time. Capcom tends to milk the hell out of their franchises and then leave 'em to die or wallow in mediocrity, adding a few little things here and there to make them seem "new".

Megaman? Dead except for handheld releases, and those still retread ground constantly.

Street Fighter? Dead, until someone got the balls to try and put out Street Fighter 4. What about all those versions of Street Fighter, you ask? Lazy money sinks designed to milk the hell out of the one game. They don't count. Thus, dead.

Resident Evil? It's a different case, I'll admit. RE4 put it back on the map and actually shook things up. Still, we'll have to see if it'll continue to change things around every so often.

Devil May Cry? Well, we're at DMC4 right now, and from what I've seen, there doesn't seem to be anything that's really changed. Hell, the protagonist of that game is a straight up Dante clone. It may be good now, but the well's gonna run dry eventually, I predict.

Excuse me if I sound bitter, but I don't expect anything but eventual suck from each franchise Capcom creates. It's happened before. Phoenix Wright may be super nifty keen right now, but get ready to play the same game OVER AND OVER for a lot more to come. Mind you, nothing's neccessarily wrong with repeating same game models (and more intelligent to do), but the best game developers still try to mix things up and experiment with different concepts.

EDIT: Oh, and let's not forget Ghosts n' Goblins, a franchise that likes to dick you over by making you beat it TWICE just to beat it once all the way through. That's just plain fail.

Edited by The Helldragon on February 9, 2008 at 12:37:47.

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Megaman? Dead except for handheld releases, and those still retread ground constantly.


Agreed.
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Street Fighter? Dead, until someone got the balls to try and put out Street Fighter 4. What about all those versions of Street Fighter, you ask? Lazy money sinks designed to milk the hell out of the one game. They don't count. Thus, dead.


You know that SF4 is in the works, right?

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Resident Evil? It's a different case, I'll admit. RE4 put it back on the map and actually shook things up. Still, we'll have to see if it'll continue to change things around every so often.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but RE4 absolutely sucked. It wasn't a survivor horror game like the previous ones, it was simply an action game with europeans following some cult leader.

Never was a huge Devil May Cry fan (heck, everytime someone types "DMC", I think of Run DMC instead), but I heard mixed thoughts about all the games.

Edited by SPT Layzner on February 9, 2008 at 14:16:16.

Edited by SPT Layzner on February 9, 2008 at 14:18:26.


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You know that SF4 is in the works, right?


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Street Fighter? Dead, until someone got the balls to try and put out Street Fighter 4. What about all those versions of Street Fighter, you ask? Lazy money sinks designed to milk the hell out of the one game. They don't count. Thus, dead.

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Resident Evil? It's a different case, I'll admit. RE4 put it back on the map and actually shook things up. Still, we'll have to see if it'll continue to change things around every so often.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but RE4 absolutely sucked. It wasn't a survivor horror game like the previous ones, it was simply an action game with europeans following some cult leader.


Merely a matter of opinion. Personally, I could care less about the RE series and I still thought RE4 was a pretty good game. Seriously... the whole zombie thing has gotten stale. I can't blame them for wanting to try new routes.


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