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Man, remember when Sega announced BIOWARE of all people would be working on a Sonic RPG? Good Tiemz

Remember when Sonic Unleashed was revealed, showing promising 2D and 3D action, and, recently, supposedly really solid Werehog gameplay?

Wow, Sonic was living the life on top of a couple of really promising videogames.

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No information other than that picture has been revealed yet but...Sonic with a sword? Do you even need a description of how unpromising this sounds?

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I guess you haven't heard about "Sonic and The Sorceror's Stone" yet.

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My god I cant beleve they are doing this to my fav video game character. Thank god I sold my wii so I wont have to play that crap.


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See: Shadow the Hedgehog

Sonic with sword = Shadow with gun


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Thank god I sold my wii so I wont have to play that crap.


Uhh... It's not like Sega is holding a gun to all Wii owners' heads forcing them all to purchase that game, you know.


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Just to spite you all, I'm gonna give this game the benefit of the doubt. I say wait until we know more before we decide if this game's gonna be bad or not.


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Just to spite you all, I'm gonna give this game the benefit of the doubt. I say wait until we know more before we decide if this game's gonna be bad or not.


See, that's the thing, RD. It's really hard to do that. Sonic has consistently sucked over the years with bad games. Of COURSE people are gonna rip this apart. Sonic keeps trying to branch out, but I say he should fix his basic gameplay first before doing that. See, Mario can afford to branch out because his normal games are usually pretty good. Sonic doesn't have that luxury.

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Sonic has consistently sucked over the years with bad games.


And once again, someone overlooks the portable games. There's something that I like to repeat: "For every sucky Sonic console game, there was a great Sonic handheld game."


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And once again, someone overlooks the portable games. There's something that I like to repeat: "For every sucky Sonic console game, there was a great Sonic handheld game."


Fair enough, but my point still stands, at least for the 3D titles.

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Not all of the console games were horrible. Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, Secret Rings, and Zero Gravity were all pretty decent, from what I hear.


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Not all of the console games were horrible. Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, Secret Rings, and Zero Gravity were all pretty decent, from what I hear.


Shadow, Heroes, and Zero Gravity are debated over. Adventure 1 and 2 seem to be the most accepted 3D Sonic games.

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Not all of the console games were horrible. Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, Secret Rings, and Zero Gravity were all pretty decent, from what I hear.


Shadow, Heroes, and Zero Gravity are debated over. Adventure 1 and 2 seem to be the most accepted 3D Sonic games.



SHADOW is debated over? I don't think so. >_>

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"SAN FRANCISCO & LONDON (July 21, 2008) –SEGA of Europe Ltd. and SEGA® of America, Inc. today announced Sonic™ and the Black Knight, an all-new Wii-exclusive adventure. Part of the storybook series of games that began with Sonic and the Secret Rings, this new title brings Sonic into the world of Arthurian legend and offers the worlds most infamous blue hedgehog the chance to become a knight. Using the unique Wii control system, this exciting game will take advantage of both the Wii Remote and the Nunchuk to offer an interactive experience that any Sonic fans will love.

Created by Sonic Team in Japan, this innovative game takes Sonic into a medieval world and arms him with a sword to aid in his effort to save the day. Sonic and the Black Knight will provide Sonic fans with an irresistible cast of characters and teach them all what it takes to be a true hero and the ultimate knight. With a series of missions taking place in stunning Arthurian-inspired locations, Sonic and the Black Knight promises to offer a fast-paced adventure that gamers of all ages will enjoy.

“After the success of Sonic and the Secret Rings we’re delighted to announce a second title in the Storybook Series,” said Gary Knight, European Marketing Director, SEGA Europe, “Following Sonic on his way to knighthood will excite players of all ages.”

Sonic and the Black Knight, exclusively for the Wii, will be out in Spring 2009.
For more information about the game, please visit www.sega.co.uk. For assets, please visit www.sega-press.com."


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Part of the storybook series of games that began with Sonic and the Secret Rings, this new title brings Sonic into the world of Arthurian legend and offers the worlds most infamous blue hedgehog the chance to become a knight.


I can't wait for the game where Sonic searches for something called "The Maltese Falcon".

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Created by Sonic Team in Japan, this innovative game takes Sonic into a medieval world and arms him with a sword to aid in his effort to save the day.


And maybe the franchise, but that's a secondary goal.

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Sonic and the Black Knight will provide Sonic fans with an irresistible cast of characters and teach them all what it takes to be a true hero and the ultimate knight.


I liked it better when it was called GaoGaiGar.

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With a series of missions taking place in stunning Arthurian-inspired locations, Sonic and the Black Knight promises to offer a fast-paced adventure that gamers of all ages will enjoy.


Hey, remember when Sonic ran around really fast and didn't get caught up in crappy gimmicks? I sure remember that. These days, "fast-paced" sounds like a dare.

Of course time will ultimately tell whether this game is good or not, but hey, after Sonic's last few outings, he deserves the remarks.

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Not all of the console games were horrible. Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, Secret Rings, and Zero Gravity were all pretty decent, from what I hear.


I should have specified: whenever I talk about crappy Sonic 3D games, I automatically exclude Sonic Adventure 1 & 2. They are not perfect, but I had a lot of fun with both games, and they are very playable.

Sonic Heroes, on the other hand... I wouldn't be able to pinpoint exactly what ruined it to me (crappy storytelling? repetitive gameplay? useless characters? who knows!), but it was enough to drive me away, even though I kinda wanted to play Shadow the Hedgehog.


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Part of the storybook series of games that began with Sonic and the Secret Rings, this new title brings Sonic into the world of Arthurian legend and offers the worlds most infamous blue hedgehog the chance to become a knight.


That sentence was enough to put my fears at ease for now. I'll be looking forward to get more information on this new game, since I think that the setting has potential. I haven't played Secret Rings yet, but I want to since it looked decent.


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More details: http://www.blueblur.org/2008/07/21/sonic-and-the-black-knight-nintendo-power-details/

Edited by RisingDragon on July 21, 2008 at 21:28:34.


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Okay, the Black Knight does look pretty cool, I'll say.

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That he does. As far as shadow being fought over. It kinda started when gametrailers gave it a good score and the shadow fan boys and girls just wont let the game go.


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Okay, so here's the trailer for the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBkc7NcFwZE

Now, I don't care what anyone else says--Sonic with a sword is an awesome idea, and considering how easily it is to frag Sonic in the game he could use the offensive power. Plus, he can use some seriously awesome moves with it, if that trailer's any indication.

I also wonder what his Super form will be.

Edited by RisingDragon on October 11, 2008 at 13:41:01.


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People, have we learned NOTHING from 06? THAT game looked cool and look what happened to that.

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I had forgotten but now I remember. As far as the game looks like secret rings with a sword. Im not touching this one with a ten inch pole.


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I had forgotten but now I remember. As far as the game looks like secret rings with a sword. Im not touching this one with a ten inch pole.


Why? Secret Rings is one of the best 3D Sonic games Sega has made since Adventure 2.


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Just becouse a 3d sonic game is good for the sonic series,doesnt make it a good game.
on that note sonic with a sword is not sonic.Every bodys flipping out about sonic with a sword. Look at the last game were sega gave us wepons in a sonic game we all know it sucked. Now with sonic unleshed comeing out it looks like we are in the right path. Sonic isnt about swords and magic like how this storybook theme,sonic is about speed The last good hard core sonic game was sonic rush adventure. I'll take the sonic I grew up with over a freiken sword any day. The sword looks like it makes no big woop in the game look how he mooves. Oh wow a spin dash with a sword spining. Swords are ment for fighting. Now go back and look at the trailer and try to tell me with a straght face that that game is more then sonic running with a sword. I saw like a sec of him really useing it and all it was was him running and then spinning. I will not buy this game nor play it. Ill do the same i did with the last wii game and watch the story cut scenes on youtube.


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Okay, first off, what the hell happened to PLAYING a game before saying it's good or not?

"Sonic with a sword is not Sonic" is actually incorrect, considering it's still Sonic, he's just wielding a weapon, big freakin' deal. And seeing how you're talking about Shadow, there are people out there that say it's a pretty good game. You shouldn't speak for everyone. And "what happened" with it was that it made is easier to kill things instead of using an attack that went after a ring box 10 miles away rather than a foe who's shooting you in the nose.

And your little, "if it's good for Sonic it doesn't mean its good" can also be directed at any franchise by that logic, and even Unleashed, as you seem to be looking forward to, can refute your concern about the sword. After all, "OMG WEREWOLF SONIC" can be seen as "Not Sonic". Plus both games seem that it'll be focused on a balance of speed and power, not just speed.

So if you're gonna shoot down this one before even trying it out or based on a small trailer, in which trailers aren't supposed to show you much ANYWAY, then you need to begin talking about Unleashed as well. After all, its not out yet and we don't know much about it either, except for its gimmick.

Besides, have you even played Secret Rings? Or did you see that one as a 3D game and decided not to bother?


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People, have we learned NOTHING from 06? THAT game looked cool and look what happened to that.


Actually, I thought that the premise of the game was kinda lame from the beginning. I've rightfully avoided that one. ;)


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So if you're gonna shoot down this one before even trying it out or based on a small trailer, in which trailers aren't supposed to show you much ANYWAY, then you need to begin talking about Unleashed as well. After all, its not out yet and we don't know much about it either, except for its gimmick.


Funny you'd say that: between the Black Knight and Unleashed, I think that the Black Knight sounds closer to the basic Sonic concept, especially after looking at that trailer. They're making a lot of promises for Unleashed, and I fear Sega's promises sometimes. On the other hand, the Black Knight is based on a known element (Secret Rings).


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People, have we learned NOTHING from 06? THAT game looked cool and look what happened to that.



I bought a PS3 day before yesterday...apart from the HORRIBLE load times, I didn't really notice any major bugs...just basic camera issues, which is like a standard for Sonic anyway.


Though whoever made the model for Robotnik should be shot repeatedly.

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As in the Secret Rings, the other core characters from the Sonic series will appear, taking on different personas, as seen here:

http://gamekyo.com/images30_4_29401.html
http://gamekyo.com/images31_4_29401.html
http://gamekyo.com/images29_4_29401.html

Anyways... can we safely say that Sonic and the Black Knight has higher chances, now that Sonic Unleashed is apparently a success, and this one is the sequel to another successful Sonic game?

Edited by RisingDragon on December 1, 2008 at 12:50:15.


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The future does look a bit brighter for Sonic fans, I'd wager. Seems that, despite the werehog, Sonic Unleashed really nailed the speed aspect of Sonic's intended gameplay. I have a bit more hope for Black Knight in this regard.

I still want a Rocket Knight Adventures remake though.