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The future does look a bit brighter for Sonic fans, I'd wager. Seems that, despite the werehog, Sonic Unleashed really nailed the speed aspect of Sonic's intended gameplay. I have a bit more hope for Black Knight in this regard.

I still want a Rocket Knight Adventures remake though.


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http://www.blueblur.org/2009/01/07/february-2009-issue-of-nintendo-power-reveals-new-sonic-and-the-black-knigh t-info/

New information includes character roles and multiplayer.

Knuckles = Sir Gawain
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That actually sounds like fun. I'm not really expecting much out of the multiplayer mode, but we'll see.


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Hmmm, I wonder if Arturian characters like Mordred, Morgan le Fay or the Green Knight make an appearance anywhere.


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Looks fun, honestly.

Which is what we've said hopefully, albeit cautiously too, about ever next-gen Sonic game so far. How has that done so far? Pretty bad. (Secret Rings was average at best.)


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Let's see what "next gen" Sonics we're talking about.

Sonic 06 WOULD have been fun if they hadn't released it half-finished. Sega forced it for the holiday season. We said it LOOKED fun because we assumed they you know, would release a completed game.

Secret Rings was at least playable. Moving backwards was a major drawback, however.

Unleashed was GREAT.

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Let's see what "next gen" Sonics we're talking about.

Sonic 06 WOULD have been fun if they hadn't released it half-finished. Sega forced it for the holiday season. We said it LOOKED fun because we assumed they you know, would release a completed game.

Secret Rings was at least playable. Moving backwards was a major drawback, however.

Unleashed was GREAT.

Yeah, that's a pretty horrible track record.


Don't give me that. Sonic's full of damn gimmicks that he doesn't need. And the failure of 06 is worth about five black marks on Sega's record, so good luck making THAT up.

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Let's see what "next gen" Sonics we're talking about.

Sonic 06 WOULD have been fun if they hadn't released it half-finished. Sega forced it for the holiday season. We said it LOOKED fun because we assumed they you know, would release a completed game.

Secret Rings was at least playable. Moving backwards was a major drawback, however.

Unleashed was GREAT.

Yeah, that's a pretty horrible track record.


Don't give me that. Sonic's full of damn gimmicks that he doesn't need. And the failure of 06 is worth about five black marks on Sega's record, so good luck making THAT up.



Gimmicks doesn't make a game not fun.


MARIO DOES NOT NEED GRAVITY GIMMICKS. GALAXY SUCKED.

MEGAMAN....8 BIT GRAPHICS OH MY GOD WHAT A GIMMICK MEGAMAN 9 WAS HORRIBLE.

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And it should be noted that one game is one game regardless, and should never be considered as a bigger mark against a company than another.

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Whats your thoughts on the golden knight super form?


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Whats your thoughts on the golden knight super form?


It's Sonic in armor, hurhur. I notice his fur didn't even change color.

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Gimmicks doesn't make a game not fun.


MARIO DOES NOT NEED GRAVITY GIMMICKS. GALAXY SUCKED.

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And it should be noted that one game is one game regardless, and should never be considered as a bigger mark against a company than another.


But the main Mario games tend to be COMPETENT and stay true to the core of Mario gameplay. If Sonic was able to do this, gimmicks would be acceptable once in a while.

As for Sonic in armor, he shall be called "Golden Chariot", in honor of Silver Chariot from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

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I watched two trailers for this game this afternoon, and I'm about sold. Unless the game is crippled (major gameplay bugs, horrible framerate or something like that), I'll be buying it. It'll be my first Sonic 3D game since Sonic Heroes, so it gives you an idea of how long I've been waiting for this one.


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I watched two trailers for this game this afternoon, and I'm about sold. Unless the game is crippled (major gameplay bugs, horrible framerate or something like that), I'll be buying it. It'll be my first Sonic 3D game since Sonic Heroes, so it gives you an idea of how long I've been waiting for this one.


Go purchase Unleashed. Though honestly I'd recommend getting a PS3/ 360 first since those versions are superior.


The only thing that irks me so far when it comes to Black Knight is the fact that Sonic seems to stop when he collides with an enemy to swing. I think this may be optional though since there are other instances when he just runs on through.

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Clear images of Shadow, Tails, and Amy, as well as images of multiplayer mode:

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Edited by RisingDragon on January 25, 2009 at 16:30:05.


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Hmmmm. If you cut off Shadow's arm, will he claim it's only a flesh wound?


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Now we're talking.


I don't buy it. While it looks good, hasn't it been proven that Sega makes better trailers than video games? I mean seriously, remember the '06 trailer?


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I don't buy it. While it looks good, hasn't it been proven that Sega makes better trailers than video games? I mean seriously, remember the '06 trailer?


I've seen the Japanese gameplay in action. It looks pretty good. Also, have you tried Unleashed? Restored my faith in Sonic.


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I don't buy it. While it looks good, hasn't it been proven that Sega makes better trailers than video games? I mean seriously, remember the '06 trailer?


I've seen the Japanese gameplay in action. It looks pretty good. Also, have you tried Unleashed? Restored my faith in Sonic.

Did you hurt yourself jumping on that bandwagon?

Yes, i've played it. The Sonic Portions are excellent and what I crave in a Sonic game. However, when i'm forced to play as the werehog for over half the game, then I have issues. If it would have been just the normal Sonic portions the whole game I would have praised the game, but Sega had to find a way to make it suck. Unleashed reminded me what Sonic could do, both good and bad. While I have some faith, I remain skeptical just because of the fact that I know someone in Sega came up with a way of making Unleashed suck (werehog); they can damn well come up with a way to make this suck if they try. However, if for once the game is as good as the trailer, i'll hop on the bandwagon.


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Well on the topic of werehogs maybe I should bring this up

"The producer of Sonic and the Black Knight, Tetsu Katano, has had an interview with Videogamer.com about the upcoming game. In this exchange, mention of Sonic Unleashed was made, with Katano explaining that, should the idea for a sequel come about, that the Werehog may well make a return."

"In principle, I think that the users are always right. They’re the ones paying the money and playing the games. If they don’t enjoy it, they’re not going to buy it. I don’t think that producing the Werehog was a mistake per se, but there were a lot of things we could have done better if we had more time and resources.

… For the improvements, I can’t think of anything right now off the top of my head. If I think of any ideas then Sonic Unleashed 2 will be the time for that, so I don’t really have an answer for that. But you will see the Werehog again. I like Secret Rings very much, but when it came to making this title [Sonic and the Black Knight] we chose to do something different. All the good things about Secret Rings belong to that specific game. So in the same way, unless we’re going to make Sonic Unleashed 2 you might not see him again. But if we are going to make it, you might see him again. It’s a possibility.

Perhaps poor translation was the result of Katano’s seemingly confused response here. Initially mentioning that the character will return if the users liked the slower-paced action in Sonic Unleashed, the producer then goes on to say we may not see him only to suggest that we may see him should Sonic Team feel compelled to make a second game."
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As far as the trailer goes It does seem good but I think we have all learned over the years not to trust a sonic trailer.



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I'm sorry, but I can't think about a potential Sonic Unleashed 2 without thinking of this picture. :D

The phrasing of that interview is so confusing that it could be taken in any way...


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I'm sorry, but I can't think about a potential Sonic Unleashed 2 without thinking of this picture. :D

The phrasing of that interview is so confusing that it could be taken in any way...


"It could be cool"-Typical sonic fanboy

The thing is after all the bad reviews on the werehogs part by fans and critics....why whould you want to bring him back?


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I don't buy it. While it looks good, hasn't it been proven that Sega makes better trailers than video games? I mean seriously, remember the '06 trailer?


I've seen the Japanese gameplay in action. It looks pretty good. Also, have you tried Unleashed? Restored my faith in Sonic.

Did you hurt yourself jumping on that bandwagon?



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Whoa. IGN gives it 3.9 / 10. :huh: This sure contrasts with the 8.0 / 10 from Nintendo Power!

That doesn't sway my opinion too much, considering how harsh IGN can be when they're tired with a series. They just start chanting "same old same old" without having much justification for it, and it's a well-known fact that they try to shoot down the Sonic franchise whenever they have the chance.


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I make it a habit to ignore any and all "professional" reviews, for games or movies or music or whatever. The best judge for whether or not you like a game is to try it yourself.


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Whoa. IGN gives it 3.9 / 10. :huh: This sure contrasts with the 8.0 / 10 from Nintendo Power!

That doesn't sway my opinion too much, considering how harsh IGN can be when they're tired with a series. They just start chanting "same old same old" without having much justification for it, and it's a well-known fact that they try to shoot down the Sonic franchise whenever they have the chance.


Yeah I stopped even READING their reviews when they gave Unleashed a lower score than 06.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3yTgYSYTTI

Gameplay, however, is a very unalterable matter. Sonic's voice sounds a little different now, and I think Griffith has finally nailed him. Arthur's voice could use....alot of work.

The gameplay however, looks great. The sword doesn't look like it slows you down at all, more or less a fancy homing attack. I'll be picking it up tomorrow.