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I believe that every time I decide to pull a ‘Faye Valentine’, a new branch of human philosophy shall herald each of these perilous journeys.

In the Bible, it is said that God created Eden as paradise. In the center of this glorious place there were two trees. The Tree of Knowledge, and the Tree of Life. It is said that The Tree of Knowledge contained all intelligence and all good and evil, and that to eat from it meant that you would surly die.

If you read it (or have a good source of information), it tells of people such as Methuselah living for a millennia. However, after Noah and the great flood, all those long-living people died, and from then on, humans only lived for a short life.

I was reading Ender’s Shadow the other day, and it said that those long-living people were literally stupid. That they lived for near infinite amounts of time with incredibly slow metabolisms, but they were incredibly stupid. However, the people after Noah had incredibly FAST metabolisms and thought at alarming rates compared to the ones who lived long. Therefore:

Assuming that all of the bible was true (as in all of Genesis), and that God really does exist, a question comes to my mind: Was God giving us a choice? When he put the two trees of (insert big word here) in the middle of the garden of Eden, was he really giving us a choice? Was he giving us the choice between immortality and stupidity, or mortality and genius?

This is all assuming that God actually exists. Whether or not he does is not my concern. My concern is that this brings up a lot of controversy in my mind. I mean, I don’t know if Methuselah or any of the others were actually STUPID, but it does seem …viable… even if I don’t believe in the Bible.

Well, I am eager to see what you all think.


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Hmmm...I never did read the bible, so I only know tiny exerts, and the things that you just force feed me, but it does seem to be a viable point.

In the Bible (from what I hear), God has a habit of doing those little things. I belive in Life, the Universe, and Everything, Douglas Adams wrote...

\"Theres not much you can do about it. With all that apple business...he\'s just the kind of guy that puts a brick under a hat on the sidewalk then waits for you to kick it. The he jumps out and says \'Got ya!\' God will always get you in the end.\"

Perhaps it was a choice...but if God is the forgiving, understanding thing he is portrayed to be, then why did only a few people get to make the choice for all of us?

Why did I not get to make a choice...then again...I would have gone with the short life/ smart bit...maybe I did have a choice.

Who knows?
Maybe we never will...
But if there is a heaven, then you\'ll get to find out much sooner with the short life option.
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People say ignorance is bliss. I\'m not all that sure where that phrase fits in here but I\'m sure it does.

Anyways, were Adam and Eve stupid then? Since they didn\'t eat from the tree, they must have been stupid (like those other people you mentioned). Isn\'t it kind of mean letting stupid people decide things for themselves? If they can\'t properly analyze the situation you might as well flip a coin and tell them to do whatever comes up (Assuming the coin\'s two sides represent two opposing ideals).


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If ignorence is bliss and Heaven is eternal bliss perhaps when you (don\'t play with lighters near old folks homes and you might just pass) get there you\'ll turn into a moron, or just keep what knowlidge you have and not learn much more.


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It was no choice. If your pathetic \"God\" did really exist, he, as the creater of reality itself, would know that we would choose power over immortality. Knowledge IS power afterall. He only wanted it to appear as though we had a choice.

I won\'t rant on this, because you know that I beleive that every religion, no matter what it is, is just the human fear of death. Humans want to live forever, so they made a fantasy world where you could, so that they wouldn\'t all go NUTS as they died.

~Just as fire is the origin of life, knowledge is the origin of love~


Whoa buddy! I never said he was my god...I said IF. AS far as I\'m concerend, there may or may not be a god, but even if there is, chances are I wont grovel before him.

\"So your god eh? Thats cool...what\'s that? Grovel!?! Well your not a very polite god thats for sure...I thik I\'ll just sit here and play with this whisp of a cloud thanks...\"

See what I mean?
Belive me Im no devout...


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