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I know this sounds stupid but what if Mighty Atomu/Astro Boy and Rockman/Megaman battled? Who would win?

I was watching Astro Boy (I think it was... episode 5) and I saw Astro transform his arm into an arm cannon. I said, \"Megaman!!!\". This really triggered my imagination (well, I want to think about anything but what I was thinking about the past weeks...).

(The next part, is me rambling. You can start voting. If you are not sure who to vote for, listen to me and I hope it is helpful to you.)

I personally think Astro would win. Now, I\'m mentioning the new series version (not that I\'m saying the older versions wouldn\'t stand a chance though). He has rocket boosters, laser fingers, an arm cannon, some machine guns in his behind, this strange \"blow-up\" attack (featured in the GBA game (not yet out)), a soul, and a heart.

...But Mega would put up a good fight I would think. He has his arm cannon, ... and an arm cannon... Well, he would put up a fight nevertheless. I really don\'t know much about Megaman/Rockman (remember I\'m a Blues fan) and I think most of the characters in the Megaman games are flat or staticy characters. I never heard that he had a soul or a heart. He just goes by what he is programed to do (feel sad now, be angry now, etc.) but does it so well that many just assumes he does have a heart and soul.

Why am I so obsessed with hearts and souls? I feel that if you have a point in life, you would go far. Astro would protect everything he loves and cares for. Mega would just fight because the law says so.

BUT, if we look at Rocky and his ID Chip (from the DreamWave comics), he would be able to choose what is right and what is wrong.

Ohh... My head hurts now. Megaman/Rockman\'s story line is way too confusing because of the many Japanese sources and the many translations of the games. Weather or not that Mega has a heart or not, he seems to be able to make up his mind on things (MM7, MM8, and SARM).

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But if Astro and Mega did have a fight, I think it would go like this:

Mega: I don\'t want to fight you! We\'re not enemies!
Astro: I don\'t want to fight you either!

*they both stare at each other for a moment*

Mega: Do you want to get some ice cream and come over my house? Roll makes the best cheesecake in the world!
Astro: Sure! And then we could play videogames after!

*walks away peacefully together*

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Megaman got more than cannons, of course he would win, BECAUSE HE HAS A DARK CANNON!:lol:


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Deltafist... Could your sig possibly be any larger? Maybe you could use a smaller pic or something...

I personally love buttered toast so I\'m kinda torn between buttered toast and Astro Boy. Megaman doesn\'t stand a chance. I mean Astro Boy can fly and Megaman... Well he can slide but it\'s just just not the same.


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I would have to see some more Astro Boy before being able to say something... It has been about 15 years since I last saw it on TV. ;) I have only seen some screenshots and pictures since.

From what I know, I would expect the fight to last a long time since they would have similar powers to counter each other.


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Megaman doesn\'t just fight because the law says so, but because he wants to keep peace, just like Astro. He also doesn\'t fight if he can avoid it, just like Astro.

I don\'t think either would win, because they are so evenly matched in terms of weapons. Mega can also fly, but only if Rush helps.

But since neither would want to fight, I\'m guessing it isn\'t much of an issue.

So, how many of these \"Who would win?\" topics do we have on Interordi so far? Has it reached a Googleplex yet?


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Megaman, use the slide![/b&greference]
I think Megaman would win... I mean, unless Megaman was actually trying to harm a human, Astro wouldn\'t attack until Megaman did. Plus, Mega has all the Robot Master weapons... and Rush!
Then again, maybe neither would fight if neither was endangering the world... :zzz:

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Ok because it\'s obvious that they\'re both good hearted robots and they would never fight each other without a really good reason, let\'s assume that their ethical programming was removed.

I also believe that Rush does no come into play at all furing this battle since it\'s Atomu VS Rockman , not Atomu VS Rockman and his team of robotic companions. Otherwise, Megaman could call in Eddie (Eddy? Fliptop?) or Beat for an added advantage (It still probably wouldn\'t be enough).

I don\'t know about megman having access to all the robot masters\' weapons. Since those weapons mysteriously disappear at the beginning of the next game, I\'ve deduced the following:

a) They have an expiry date and / or self-destruct upon the destruction of Wily\'s current fortress.
B) Wily\'s newest robot masters are always so much more improved over previous models that old weapons become obsolete and are virtually harmless to the new robot masters.

In either case, the weapons aren\'t reused then so they probably won\'t be used against Astro Boy for the same reason (whatever it may be).

This leads me to believe that with Astro Boy\'s innate abilities, he would most likely win over Megaman\'s acquired abilities (unless of course, there happened to be a slice of buttered toast...).


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I think Astro would win. His arm cannon is more powerful than all the robots masters weapons combined. Plus, he can fly and can lift heavy things(see episode 1 of the new series). While Mega Man can only slide. Sure he can fly but he needs Rush in order to do so. And even if he had Rush, he wouldn\'t be fast enough to keep up with Astro.


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Astro would win Episode 5 came on yesterday I think>>(my time)And his arm transformed into a huge cannon and fired though I doubt they would fight each other because of the goodness but Astro was built with a heart and soul unlike Megaman he was just built as a robot to think for himself they would probly go their diffrent ways thee fight each other.



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Neither would fight, programing set aside though it seems Astroboy would win.. *votes for toast* Toast has super magical uber doom powers..


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Yeah i\'m going to have to agree with Vic on that one buttered toast would kick all ass.

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Yeah i\'m going to have to agree with Vic on that one buttered toast would kick all ass.
definitly


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First of all, the notion that Rokkuman has no heart and/or soul is BS. Rock has as much soul as Atomu. Asimov\'s (Sp?) Rules of Robitics were not the reason Rock did not kill Wily (in my mind at least) It was beacuse Rock couldn\'t bring himself to Wily\'s level, and that he felt a sort of pity.

That aside, Rock (IIRC) has more fighting experience than Atomu. Course they wouldn\'t fight one another, and if they did neither would win

Since tie is not an option, I\'ll have to vote Buttered Toast

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Whoo, go mega power to the toastatinis.


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We\'re all a bunch of geeks to be arguing whether make-believe robots have souls or not. :D

That being said, I think Mega has a soul.

In terms of Astro having more strength, how about at the end of MM5 on the NES when Mega held up the entire ceiling?


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First of all, the notion that Rokkuman has no heart and/or soul is BS. Rock has as much soul as Atomu. Asimov\'s (Sp?) Rules of Robitics were not the reason Rock did not kill Wily (in my mind at least) It was beacuse Rock couldn\'t bring himself to Wily\'s level, and that he felt a sort of pity.

That aside, Rock (IIRC) has more fighting experience than Atomu.


Are you extremely sure Mega acts on his own? Or by programing? Does it say anywhere in the games that he does one or the other? (I\'m just wondering. You don\'t need to get mad.) You are saying two opposite things. You say he feels pity. If he does, he works on his own. If he does that, Asimov\'s law does not work with Mega making him just like Astro.

The Laws of Asimov are almost useless because robots change all the time in books/movies/etc. and break all, some, or one rule of the \"set rules\" \"all\" robots go by. Astro broke all of them at a point in the manga.

Astro (the first one created in the manga; there are actually four different Astro Boys) lived more than 150 years old. He fought other robots, humans, animals, aliens, ...you know, the works.

But, Mega has to fight a bombardment of robots every few minutes in his short \"life\". Mega can fight off hordes while Astro can only fight one or two people at a time well.


Man, Astro and Mega would be the perfect tag team!!


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Though I am bumping this, I feel that I owe an answer.

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First of all, the notion that Rokkuman has no heart and/or soul is BS. Rock has as much soul as Atomu. Asimov\'s (Sp?) Rules of Robitics were not the reason Rock did not kill Wily (in my mind at least) It was beacuse Rock couldn\'t bring himself to Wily\'s level, and that he felt a sort of pity.

That aside, Rock (IIRC) has more fighting experience than Atomu.


Are you extremely sure Mega acts on his own? Or by programing? Does it say anywhere in the games that he does one or the other? (I\'m just wondering. You don\'t need to get mad.)


I believe that Rock chose to fight Wily of his own accord, and that Light reprogrammed him subsequently.

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You are saying two opposite things. You say he feels pity. If he does, he works on his own. If he does that, Asimov\'s law does not work with Mega making him just like Astro.


I\'m not sure exactly why he let Wily live. Perhaps he had become obsessed with vengence and then decided it wouldn\'t change what had already happened, perhaps it was Asimov\'s robotic laws.

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The Laws of Asimov are almost useless because robots change all the time in books/movies/etc. and break all, some, or one rule of the \"set rules\" \"all\" robots go by. Astro broke all of them at a point in the manga.


I think they\'re there as a \"Robots need to be programmed to follow these,\" as opposed to a \"Robots cannot break these at all,\"

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Astro (the first one created in the manga; there are actually four different Astro Boys) lived more than 150 years old. He fought other robots, humans, animals, aliens, ...you know, the works.


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But, Mega has to fight a bombardment of robots every few minutes in his short \"life\". Mega can fight off hordes while Astro can only fight one or two people at a time well.


I actually prefer to think of them as alternate versions of each other, Megaman IS Astroboy and vice versa, they just exist in seperate timelines, one is blue, and the other has...a...butt....rocket.

[Edited on 2/4/2005 by Mega X.exe]

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Maybe moreso than pitying Wily, it seemed Megaman was entirely programmed to let Wily go, and a violent side started to show. I mean, since by code robots can\'t kill humans, it stands to reason that only free-will would have allowed Megaman to start at an attempt to kill Wily.

And how do we get all this jazz about Astro\'s weapons being more powerful then Megaman\'s? I guess there\'s no way to tell for sure...

Then again, they say the greatest victory is the battle not fought. Maybe instead, Megaman should just FlashMan Astro and then get out of there.:lol:


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