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Dr. Cossack did, no blank posts BTW

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He created him but then the officials were ordered to delete him because they thought he was behind the bug in Alpha (?). They tried to delete him but he used Get Ability on the leader, got his word and deleted him. He recieved a big slash though.


Do one later.

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...which left a scar and is one of the reasons for his anti-human attitude.

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ohh.... well that helps alot..(i think..)

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dr. hikari(lan\'s grand father) was his assistant also

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He created him but then the officials were ordered to delete him because they thought he was behind the bug in Alpha (?). They tried to delete him but he used Get Ability on the leader, got his word and deleted him. He recieved a big slash though.


its his \"sword\"

and bass later does some queer ass stuff like delete gospel, (then get deleted himself) and so on..


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dr. hikari(lan\'s grand father) was his assistant also
No he was assistant to no one.
W and btw wily was lan\'s grandfather\'s assistant.

[Edited on 16-6-2004 by bboy88]


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Major spoiler, reveals the whole backstory of MMBN 3, so don\'t read it if you haven\'t beaten the game!!!

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Lan\'s grandfather created Alpha, the original intenet, just like the one we use now. I\'m not sure, but I think that Wily and Dr. Hikari were partners, not apprentice and mentor. anyways, Wily make numerous inventions, like the tanks and the Pulse Transmission System, but when his ideas became to deviant and violent, he was fired from his job at SciLab. He vowed revenge for the insult of his release from his job. Dr. Cossack was the creator of Bass, one of the first navis made to run on alpha, the original net. when alpha developed an artificial intelligence and became self-consious, it began to malfunction, causing serious errors. Since Bass was introduced onto the net around the time that Alpha malfunctioned, he was blamed for the problems and those working at SciLab decided to delete him. Dr. Cossack, not realizing that Bass had also developed a new level of intelligence, allowed Bass to be deleted. however, since Bass had the Get Ability Program installed, he managed to crawl away and absorb the strength of the viruses he found, growing stronger. At the same time, the scientists at SciLab found that Alpha was the problem, not Bass. Upon realizing this, they subdued Alpha so as not to lose all the data, and Dr. Hikari put his own special block on Alpha to prevent its escape. In addition, they also developed a program that would be able to subdue Alpha should he ever escape: the Forbidden Program. This program was guarded by the most powerful Navi at the time, excluding Bass: Serenade. Over the years, Bass grew strong enough to fight, and since he was self-concious when Dr. Cossack allowed his supposed deletion, he developed a hate for the man who had spawned him and then put him through such pain, and vowed to do all he could to destroy that man and his race. That\'s why Bass is so angry, and why Wily needed Bass to open Dr. Hikari\'s security block: Hikari developed Alpha, and so his was the strongest security cube made. My own theory is that since Megaman was once human, most of the data for his creation was already stored as brain waves, and so he wasn\'t inhibited with programs that would react badly to the Forbidden Program, hence his ability to handle it.


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Uhm, I thought that before you talk to your dad in the hospital for the 1st time, he\'s talking to Sean and he says \"A navi probably operated by Wily told me to create Bass so I did\".


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well, to an extent, you are right. you see, if you beat MMBN 2, a the very end,

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you see bass floating in a WWW area that I don\'t think you can access at that point, then he\'s destroyed by another Bass who says something about how he will not permit the cloning of himself
so yes and no.:D


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The wierd part is up to MMBN3 BAss had 2000 HP, but in MMBN3 he has 1000, so maybe the destroyed BAss was the real one seeking revenge, but killed by the clone...
Gives a whole new meaning to \"No one can shut me down except ME!\"


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well, its possible that even the clone\'s power was enough to break the seal, but the cloned Bass, before he merged with the bugs collected by Shaun, was weaker than BassDeluxe in WWW area. So, a more likely speculation is that Capcom didn\'t think you could beat BassDeluxe from MMBN 2, so they weakened him. if it is the clone issue, then it is save to say that Bass probably replaced himself with a clone and snuck off to develop himself more fully, and assymalate(sp?) the power of Gospel. but, if it is the latter of the two options, just file it under weird stuff capcom does. Same way that megaman starts each game out without the ability to style change, and how Lan and Mayl can \"fall in love\" or something to that effect in each game without anyone explaining or finding it weird.

By the way, you do know that the Bass you face before alpha has 1000 HP, but the one you face in Secret 3 has 2000, right?

[Edited on 16-6-2004 by Serpentarius]


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Yeah, I always wondered how the hero who defeated LifeVirus has a folder full of Guns and Minibombs and Cannons a t the beginning of each game...

Yes, the one you face in secret area 3 is BassGS.

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While the Navis who had been swallowed by Alpha were being extricated, Bass snuck off into the secret area, but had to fuse with Gospel. He then became so dumb and powerful that he knew he was only created to delete, but delete with a purpose what he didn\'t know (it was Megaman) and he doesn\'t know who,what,or where he is.


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So really, from this point onward, Bass is a hybrid of a hybrid? because Gospel was a fusion of a Bass clone and bugs, and now the real Bass is a fusion of himself and a deformed version of himself...this just gets better and better, huh? so, then Bass\'s fusion addled him. He wasn\'t created to destroy, but rather made it his life mission to be destroyed, and his blind power came from Gospel. I would think that absorbing yourself would bring you all the pain that your clone felt, so maybe defeating him (for bass is never truely gone) was a bad thing! beating all the extra energy out of him probably reverted him back to being his human-hating, Navi-destroying, just-plain-evil self! also, have you noticed that in each game Bass gets the power of the main boss of the game before it? Bass got the LifeAura from BN 1, and his Gospel Cannon from BN 2, so what will he get from BN 3? anyways, d\'you reckon we\'ll be stuck with having to get back our styles, our NaviCust, and our PAs again next game? I do. what a shame:cry:


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Yes, I think so too. From MMBN3, he\'ll probably get the machine gun thing alpha had. And yes, we will have to get all that stuff back.


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Dunno if anybody already posted what I\'m about to do, but sorry; I\'m too lazy to read now.

Bass was the first REAL navi created by Dr.Cossack. Then when he figured the secret about Alpha, he was then ordered to be deleted. Bass escaped with a scar on his chest (he shows you in one of MMBN3 encounters) and he swore to seek revenge on all humans.

There\'s a lot more, but consider this the entire thing in a nutshell.

That clarify anything (I hope)?

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Nah, we already knew all of that.


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yeah, just scroll up to where you see a gigantic black spoiler box, highlight it, and if you find any corrections that should be made, let me know.


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In MMBN4 he uses a large purple blast.

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okay, but is this large purple blast like the alpha goo you get caught in, or is it just another shot like the others bass attacks?


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It\'s the thing alpha does where the middle panel and whole front row are cracked and a purple beam shoots down the middle.


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Ohhhhhh! cool! man, I hope they let us transfer chips from the 3rd game to the 4th, I\'m gonna feel awfully vulnerable against him without my GaiaSword or Mines. No matter, I\'m sure that we\'ll get even more cool chips in the next game *coughJune29cough*. Anyone know if Bass\'s attitude is going to be any different in this game, maybe a bit more randomly destructive? After all, he did go wacko in Secret 3. Will he stay that way?


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Most likely way more destructive.

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I strongly doubt theyd let you transfer chips though,
that way people can get REALY good.


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YAy! Hhuman-hating and destructive, just the way I like bass.


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O man...all this deep thinking is giving me a headack...who knew Bass had such a complecated background story..


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Heh. First of all, Bass has got to have a huge background story, he\'s integral to both the main story line, as well as the optional activities after you beat the main boss. Second of all, he\'s a main character in two of the games, maybe three (I don\'t know about MMBN 1), so anyone transferred between three games that have only rough explanations of their predicessors is going to have a complicated history. Finally, the word you are looking for is \"headache\", not headack. (spelling/grammar nazi, I am. Do it again, you should not. Fight the dark side, you must)


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Heh. First of all, Bass has got to have a huge background story, he\'s integral to both the main story line, as well as the optional activities after you beat the main boss. Second of all, he\'s a main character in two of the games, maybe three (I don\'t know about MMBN 1), so anyone transferred between three games that have only rough explanations of their predicessors is going to have a complicated history. Finally, the word you are looking for is \"headache\", not headack. (spelling/grammar nazi, I am. Do it again, you should not. Fight the dark side, you must)

I knew I was spelling something wrong:eek: Thanks for the correct spelling.


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In MMBN1, he\'s just floating around there in area 20 so you can get lifeaura.


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