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If you really did think like that, you\'d only ever like one band.


I completely agree with you, that\'s not the reason I dislike Green Day however, but good point.

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And it\'s not really against America. It\'s about the media. It\'s about hollywood. It\'s about how everything is fake.


Green Day is probably one of the biggest bands in America at this point, which you must agree with. A little hypocritical isn\'t it? Considering Green Day is a massive band (in the US)

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If you name one band that you like, I bet you\'d be able to find at least one song by tham that wasn\'t original in every single way.


Bullets and Octane. You\'re right. To quote [the awesome] Billy Corgan on this...
\"You can\'t be greater then Elvis, you can\'t change things like the Beatles,
you can\'t be as original as Led Zeppelin, all you can do is rip them off\"
That still doesn\'t change the fact that I don\'t like Green Day. Ripoff or not. Led Zeppelin ripped tons of people off, that doesn\'t stop many people from liking them.

Listen, I don\'t want to piss anyone off, because I know how defensive people get about their musical prefrences. I just fail to find one once of talent in their music. There is nothing special about them, and I\'m sorry if you like them, but they\'re just another Good C...well, maybe not as bad as GC

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And it\'s not really against America. It\'s about the media. It\'s about hollywood. It\'s about how everything is fake.


Green Day is probably one of the biggest bands in America at this point, which you must agree with. A little hypocritical isn\'t it? Considering Green Day is a massive band (in the US)


You mean like ABBA singing complaining like they have no money? You mean like really rich and wealthy emo bands singing about how bad life is?

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If you name one band that you like, I bet you\'d be able to find at least one song by tham that wasn\'t original in every single way.


Bullets and Octane. You\'re right. To quote [the awesome] Billy Corgan on this...
\"You can\'t be greater then Elvis, you can\'t change things like the Beatles,
you can\'t be as original as Led Zeppelin, all you can do is rip them off\"
That still doesn\'t change the fact that I don\'t like Green Day. Ripoff or not. Led Zeppelin ripped tons of people off, that doesn\'t stop many people from liking them.[/quote]

If they truely believed what you said about Green Day, they wouldn\'t like them. (Can I just say that Led Zeppelin were the first real Heavy Metal group so they\'d find it hard to rip many people off)


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You mean like ABBA singing complaining like they have no money? You mean like really rich and wealthy emo bands singing about how bad life is?


Yes! Exactly like that

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Can I just say that Led Zeppelin were the first real Heavy Metal group so they\'d find it hard to rip many people off


Wanna bet?
here is a list of songs that they ripped off

# \"Babe I\'m Gonna Leave You\" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as \"traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page,\" then \"words and music by Jimmy Page,\" and then, following legal action, \"Bredon/Page/Plant.\"
# \"Black Mountain Side\" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
# \"Bring It On Home\" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
# \"Communication Breakdown\" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran\'s \"Nervous Breakdown.\"
# \"Custard Pie\" - uncredited cover of Bukka White\'s \"Shake \'Em On Down,\" with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes\'s \"Drop Down Daddy.\"
# \"Dazed And Confused\" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
# \"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper\" - uncredited version of Bukka White\'s \"Shake \'Em On Down.\"
# \"How Many More Times\" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin\' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King\'s \"The Hunter.\"
# \"In My Time Of Dying\" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan\'s debut).
# \"The Lemon Song\" - uncredited cover of Howlin\' Wolf\'s \"Killing Floor\" - Wolf\'s publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70\'s and settled out of court.
# \"Moby Dick\" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title \"The Girl I Love,\" and later covered by Bobby Parker.
# \"Nobody\'s Fault But Mine\" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
# \"Since I\'ve Been Lovin\' You\" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape\'s \"Never,\" though the music isn\'t similar.
# \"Stairway To Heaven\" - the main guitar line is apparently from \"Taurus\" by Spirit.
# \"White Summer\" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham\'s \"She Moved Through The Fair.\"
# \"Whole Lotta Love\" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues \"You Need Love.\"

:cry: sad isn\'t it?

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Wow... I think my brain has just died from reading all of this argument. If I may interject something here: Everyone is going to have their own opinion of what music is good and what isn\'t; I doubt that there is a soul in the world who can completely agree with another person on that. NO amount of saying, \"this band sucks\" or \"that singer has no talent\" is going to change anyone else\'s mind. Whether or not a band or singer ripped off someone else\'s songs, whether or not they have the best voices in the world, the people who like them are going to go on liking them no matter what someone else says. Music is extremely subject to opinion, and therefore an argument about it will ultimately lead to nowhere... as this one is doing. Am I opinionated? Of course. Do I have favorites? Most certainly. But I know that bashing other people over the head with them won\'t make an ounce of differance.

-Ri

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Good point. Sorry for dragging on an unneeded debate. ^_^;