I don\'t know what I think. I have no idea what makes a person human. I just don\'t think that we\'re human after we die, because then we have nothing human to go back to. I don\'t know, really. Post.

To be perfectly honest, I\'d say you\'re thinking about it too hard. There is no point at which a human becomes non-human by acts. He could become a cyborg through surgery.

Religiously, I think humans are human because of what God made them. In his image, free will, yadayada.

Agreed with Heatman. We are human because of our species, not because of our acts. For instance, I couldn\'t just up and turn into a chameleon tomorrow.

Unless I was on some heavy drugs.

Yeah....I mean just look at that guy from Pink Floyd who thought he was a glass of orange juice. He was still human but thought he was something else because of delerium.

I agree that it\'s our genus and speices over actions that makes us human. And when we die we aren\'t anything, that\'s why we don\'t come back.

It depends on the question. Is it asking what makes the body a human, or the mind a human? Ill go with the mind one, since it\'s more fun.

Well, you are a human in the mind if you accept what you are told that you are human or what you believe. You could be brain dead and act like some sort of animal, then you\'d be locked up like one. Humans are the most advanced creatures on this planet. To act ‘Human’ you pretty much have to follow society and what they want you to do. You would be called a monster if you started killing everyone you saw.

Humans, bodily, are weak. If it were lion against human, the lion would win. But it’s the mind of the human that allows them to advance in technology to make guns to blow the lions away.

I swear I had more on my mind… oh well. Maybe later…

It\'s because we are fearful that we make weapons to protect ourselves. If we were truly strong minded we would know how not to be attacked by lions. That\'s the exact reason dolphins are more intellegent. Ever hear of one of them getting mauled? No.

Human should not be defined by mind because we know so little about our own and even less about the creatures that we coexsist with.

For example: a lion and a human could have simular brain patters. This would not make the human a lion nor the lion human. The human would simply be dubbed insane and locked away and the lion done no harm for we know next to nothing in lion brian patterns.

It is a physical deffintion of what human is, not mental. A mind can be easily changed but physical, genetical traits are not so.

Actually, putting it that way, you say that people with Down\'s Syndrome aren\'t human, because they have one chromosome more than the normal humans.

Yeah, I guess I\'ll go with everything that\'s been stated so far; by species, not by action. Really, you could take up arms and kill every other human being on the planet and, although some may call you a monster, you\'d still be human so long as you had reasoning and a reason for killing all of them, even if it was as simple as, \"Yeah, Japan was ticking me off, and I got carried away.\" Any reason at all would do, even, \"Cause I felt like it.\" I\'m really not sure there\'s anything you could do to become inhuman by your own power. If there was a way to actually completely alter you entire genetic code and hereditary information, then you could at least be semihuman, but that sort of falls into science fiction. I don\'t think that humanity has any means currently to become inhuman.

Oh yeah, I just realized that that post is a little contrived. What I meant by that first couple of sentences was that just seemingly losing a sense of what is humane isn\'t enough.

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Every action can be considered \'humane\'. For instance, one could say that a serial killer is someone releasing people\'s souls so they go to heaven.

Of course, that\'s not my way of thinking, I just try to understand why people would do \'inhumane\' things.

Mutants. Not inhuman but a thread away from \"normal.\" People with Down\'s are still human in physical traits. The extra X or Y cromosome makes them neither super nor subhuman. They are just an off shoot of human genetic normality.

You defined them as human when you used the word \"people.\" People is a human specific term. Therefor you can\'t define people with Down\'s as not human because you called them a human specific term.

You... I... AAARGHH!! You got me!

But is it possible that one could get an \"Ultimate Down\'s\" so to say? So he/she/it/whatever has, like, 50 chromosomes?

Totaly hypothetical and highly unlikely. That is a mutation we have yet to see. When it comes about I\'ll give you an anwser.

No Morph, you silly kid, they would just explode in the womb for even tring to pull that kind of a prank on God.:lol:

Seriously, whatever humans do is thus human behavior. If I kill Morph right now, just for example, it could be said that it is human behavior, because of the huge number of other murders that occur. Murder is normal.

Not moral, granted, but perfectly normal.;)

Yeah, probably. If that\'d be possible, you could turn a human embryo in an early phase into a totally different species.

That\'d be playing God. Naughty, very naughty.



Should I take that as a threat? o.o

Yup. Murder IS normal. For survival. If we look at animals - not humans, though, in fact, we ARE animals - we see that it is perfectly common that they kill eachother just out of jealousy, or the oppurtunity to have offspring.

Humans have changed, turned away from that, and thereby created what we consider \'humane\'.



Yup.

The ability to have Moral it\'s kind of hard for me to explain without making a whole nother page so i\'ll put it this way the abiliity to be human is to know right from wrong good from evil... MOrals seem to be what makes anyone human \'kay.

Dranzer: So only humans have moral? No other creature on the planet does? Seems like an odd statment if you ask me. No one knows enough about the minds of other animals (or even plants) to say that much on the subjet.

God: In sci-fi that may be true but this isn\'t the world of Douglas Adams. Your theory on corruption is pure oppinion. Sadly though, not every human thinks that way. Must be only you. You don\'t have a solid arggument to back that up.

God actually has a point. We have not seen \'corruption\' amongst any other species. It can also be that we just don\'t understand them, and that they do know \'corruption\', but as far as we know, only our species: \'Homo Sapiens Sapiens\' do.

But, since humans have morals - not saying animals do not - they can also rise above that. You have enough people who have dedicated their lives to save a certain species, improve human life quality with technology... etc. etc. etc.
However, you can also lead these things back to personal gain. You actually have to know the person\'s motivation.


All in all, it is actually all about speculation and opinion.

A moral is just something held in high regard of a creature. Anything that can think has priorites and therefor should have morals. Morals should not dictate if one is human or not human. Bringing that in will inevitably bring in religion and, like I\'ve been saying, we don\'t know much about other animals\' religions.

Religion and morals do NOT define what something is. A chimp may have strong moral fiber and have a strong belief in a religion that many humans do but that will NOT make said chimp human.

A person is human by the homo sapien definition, but apparently we can\'t use that example. The only other thing we can use is moral fiber, which we argue would not make an animal human. And, since the only other thing we can classify as a \"person\" would be an extraterrestrial or magical life form, which we can\'t prove exists, by this discussion it would seem all people are human, no matter what.

And that\'s about it.

You could also just say:

\"You are human, when you feel like it.\"

BTW, God, isn\'t it easier to call her \"Rose\"?

I SMELL EMO

And wow, Heatman summed it up nicely. Even I can understand that.

A person is anything that verbally asks you to stop stabbing it.

I tawt I saw a spam post... I did I did see a spam post. Oh well Either way what I mean to say is Humans seem to know Moral the best on this planet (And Probably other planets too.

1. Not SPAM. Just an opinion that differed so much from the rest, it was so original, that your brain got jealous and made you think it was SPAM.

2. And humans maybe do NOT know moral the best. We cannot really communicate with animals yet, so...

Oooh ooh I gotta try it *grabs his dog* What\'s 3 to the 2nd power. Who knows whether or not we have the best moral.

You have yet to show any proof to that claim. You don\'t know what a cat\'s morals are so you can\'t say that a human has better morals. Give me something that backs up your claim.

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