yes true belevers another spiderman topic.This one ithink you like beter.What is your fav. symbiote?venom carnige spider carnige toxin or ultamite venom and carnige? and tell me why you like it.I like venom carnge and spider c.

Yeah, Venom\'s where it all began. I mean, Toxin and Hybrid are cool and all, but Venom...yeah.

I agrre.venom is just bad ass. WE WILL RIP OUT YOUR SPINE AND EAT YOUR BRAIN!all so venom made his comic apperince in #299 not 300.And I have both of them and ther hard to find.300 is more common then 299.299 is like a100 $ book and got it for THREE$ at an yord sale.Later when the guy I got it from relised how much it was worth he had his son try to steell it from me.

true but it was not VENOMs first apperince.

It can sorta be lumped in with Venom. After all, that\'s the beginning of the whole story.

Although I prefer the old motive for Eddie Brock to become Venom, the one where he and the symbiote hated Spiderman and teamed up. Not the retcon, where he now has cancer and needs the symbiote to survive.

[Edited on 2/11/2006 by Mega X.exe]

oh ya venom and sandman are going to be in spiderman 3.you wont beleve who is playing venom.:eek:go to ign.com to find out!:eek:

[Edited on 11-2-2006 by axl z]

Venom 2 Earth X edition. IF you don\'ot know what it is you suck.

I know what it is.It was may(spidergirl)in a diffrent unaverse.shewore the venom costume in earth x.She was red and black and she had a powerfull spider scence and it drove the costume away.

Venom is my favorite but alot of people don\'t know that!

I also really liked Carnage, I really did. I didn\'t read any of the comics, I just watched the cartoon. And collected cards, and played the games, and collected the action figures. I\'ve never read a Spider-Man comic actually. So I never knew how lame Carnage really was until my uber Spidey afficionado friend told me.

I just liked Carnage for his humor though, I thought he was quite funny.

Anyone have pictures of Toxin, Hybrid, Ultimate Ven, and Carn? I\'ve never heard of Toxin and Hybrid. And I have a feeling the Ultimate characters look alittle lame.

thay do not. CARNIGE is a killer you se him in an ally your scroued!:DI have some pics.of toxin i will put them up later.

Hollow: Hybrid is a fictional antihero of the Marvel Universe. He first appeared in a back-up story in the Venom: The Hunted miniseries.

He is the amalgamation of four of the Life Foundation Symbiotes (Riot, Phage, Lasher, and Shriek)- whose hosts were killed by Scream-(all of the above were Venom Spawn) into a single symbiote entity. The fused symbiote then sought out Scott Washington, an African-American man who was a Guardsman at Vault (the prison for supervillains. i.e. it is shown that he would have to contend with a runaway Rhino as a weekly ritual) lab facility. While guarding the symbiotes, he realized that they were not evil, not a threat, and the experiments were causing them terrible pain, so he let them go. When his superiors discovered that Scott had released the aliens he was supposed to guard he was demoted down to being a beat cop in a gang-torn neighborhood. He was shot and crippled in the course of duty, losing the use of his legs.

When the symbiote bonded with him, he regained the ability to walk, and so much more. Scott has a lot of anger, and according to him, it is often the symbiotes that hold him back from acts of violence, not the other way around. Since his symbiote was origianally four different entities, Scott has to contend with four different voices / personailities in his head besides his own.

As Hybrid, Scott got revenge on the Xs, the gang that had crippled him. He began to get a lot of press attention, and while most of the publicity was positive, it drew the attention of the Guardsmen. He was captured by his former employers who would have killed him just for being a symbiote, but he was rescued by the New Warriors. He joined them soon after. He feels it\'s his duty to prove that not all symbiotes are evil.




Toxin

Much like his father Venom, Carnage produced a third Symbiote. Carnage felt only dislike and hatred towards his new spawn, even before he \"gave birth\" to it, both fearing that it could become much more powerful than himself, and being generally disgusted at the thought of giving birth. At the same time, Carnage\'s rival and \"father\" Venom became aware that Carnage was \"pregnant\" and sought out Carnage to talk about this new symbiote. Carnage had resolved to kill his spawn as soon as it was birthed. Venom was doing his best to protect the new symbiote, with the intention of raising it to become his new partner.

After the birth of his \"son\", Carnage felt too weak to kill his newborn (due in no small part to his attempt to repress the birth), so he tried blowing it up and burying it. Much to Carnage\'s dismay however, his newborn son would find a human host to live with, in the shape of Patrick Mulligan.

Prior to finding the alien symbiote, Patrick Mulligan was one of New York City\'s finest cops, yet he was also troubled with various personal problems. His stressful job, along with the strain of his new family (his wife just gave birth to their first son) were taking their toll on him. One night, while on duty, he came across the site where Carnage was giving birth and the newborn symbiote, needing a host to survive, bonded to him. Carnage resolved to kill both Pat and the symbiote currently hiding in his body (Toxin wasn\'t yet strong enough to manifest in a superpowered costume like the Venom and Carnage symbiotes.) Venom was still hopeful that he\'d be able to use this new Symbiote as a partner, and fought Carnage to a standstill to protect Pat and the symbiote, who he christened Toxin, after himself.

At first, Patrick didn\'t realize quite what had happened to him, but before long, the Toxin symbiote had matured enough to gain both conscious thought, and the strength to form a symbiote costume on Pat\'s body. After Carnage attacked Patrick\'s wife and newborn son at his home, he realized the symbiote was a danger to both himself and his family. He walked out on his wife and child, and left the police force to try and come to terms with his new life. During a future confrontation between Venom, Carnage, and Toxin, Venom realized Patrick was dedicated to a life of virtue, or as close as he could come bearing the demon of the symbiote in him. Venom and Carnage formed a temporary pact to destroy Toxin, as it was clear by now that he was easily as strong as either of his predecessors, and was still growing. Spider-Man stumbled into the final confrontation between the symbiote trinity, and helped Toxin. After they fended off Venom and Carnage, Toxin had a conversation with Spider-Man, filling him in on what had happened to him. Spider-Man gave him a kind of superhero heart-to-heart, and passed on his Uncle Ben\'s message: \"With great power comes great responsibility.\" Toxin resigned himself to a life of battling his base symbiote urges to indulge in violence and destruction, while trying to harness his power for good.

In 2005, after Spider-Man joined the Avengers, Marvel started a 6 issue Toxin mini-series, which charts Toxin\'s battles with various supervillains who had escaped from Rikers Island as a result of the events beginning The New Avengers series, as well as his constant battle to keep the Toxin symbiote under control, as unlike Venom and Carnage, the host and symbiote minds stayed separate in Toxin, and they even had conversations and arguments with each other; like his \"father\" Carnage, Toxin does not refer to himself as \"we\". Throughout the course of the mini-series he battled King Cobra, The Wrecker, Piledriver, and Razor Fist. A one point, trying to live with Toxin becomes too much for Pat, and he attempts to commit suicide by throwing himself in front of a train. Toxin interferes at the last moment, saving Pat and claiming that deep down, Pat didn\'t really want to die, but when Pat presses the issue it become clear that unlike the Venom and Carnage symbiotes, Toxin is not sure it could survive on its own and find a new host if it were separated from Pat, or if Pat were killed (both Venom and Carnage have left their normal hosts, Eddie Brock and Cletus Kasady, to bond with others.) It was in this mini-series that Razor Fist murders Patrick Mulligan\'s father, but we see Pat/Toxin begin to show true signs of a Marvel Hero when he tracks Razor Fist down, but instead of slaughtering him as both the symbiote and Razor Fist himself urge, he controls himself and turns Razor Fist over to the police. At the end of the mini-series we see Pat try to reconcile with his estranged wife, by \'introducing\' her to the Toxin symbiote as way of explaining why he walked out on his family. It is unclear where Toxin went from there, as he has yet to appear in any more comics to date.

I have all the spidy books even amazing fantisy#15:Dhaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa!amazing fantisy is a 50.000$ book.and i have it in good condishon!:D

[Edited on 12-2-2006 by axl z]

I want to know what crack Marvel is smoking and where I can get some.

Pregnant symboites?!

Pregnant is used loosely. It sort of means that Carnage knew he was going reproduce asexually very soon.

He is a wimp compared to toxin!

I\'m not able to follow it all very well, seeing as how I only very recently became interested in Spiderman at all... I thought Symbiote Spiderman looked pretty cool.

Yeah, if I\'d given birth to Toxin, I\'d be \"disgusted\" to say the least.

When i was little i keept asking my dad why carnage was more power ful then venom?he said that all the symbiote after him wher stronger.and i have abook tht tells the costumes origin.

That\'s proof that baies are ugly especially in this case. :rofl:

\'Cept the Carnage symbiote doesn\'t exist anymore. Venom ate it. Whatshisface just got a really close copy from some other dimension.

Whatshisface..you mean Cletus? :o

And ah, well I think these babies are adorable! I wish Venom and Carnage would have invited me to the baby shower... But nooooo. I called them a week later and they said they \"forgot my address\". Yeah right. :rolleyes:

I have the power of a spider!I am spider axl!STOMP dang it.

Symbiote Spidy. Because he looks kool, and he was the original symbiote:cool: Plus he\'s got mad power!


~Proto-Zama~

Oh Hollow, I forgot. You wanted pictures of Ultimate Venom and Carnage, right? Well here they are. Keep in mind that the story for both of them is completely different.



The \"Ultimate\" version of Venom. Art by Mark Bagley (2003).



Eddie Brock.



Ultimate Venom\'s size compared to Ultimate Spider-Man\'s size

In the Ultimate Marvel universe, Eddie Brock Jr. is Peter Parker\'s childhood friend. There is no symbiote, but instead, a genetically engineered protoplasmic \"Suit\" designed by their fathers. Richard Parker intended it to be used for medical purposes in his quest to cure cancer, but Eddie Brock Sr. was more interested in the military applications of the Suit.

Eddie continued his father\'s research, using two samples of the Suit in the process, to \"keep the figures straight\" as a control in experiments. One bonded with Peter, who wanted to take the Suit for himself, leading to a variant of the \"alien spider costume\" storyline from the original Marvel Universe.

Afterwards, he warned Eddie of the dangers of the Suit when its enhanced metabolism and aggression nearly drove him to kill (the Suit was shocked off of Peter by a power line, and he proceeded to destroy the container and the remnants of the first sample by throwing it into a smokestack).

Brock, angry at Peter for trying to destroy their inheritance, used the second suit to become Venom.

Unlike the original Marvel counterpart, Venom has no spider-symbol on his chest or relation to Spider-Man. The Suit constantly consumes Eddie alive and drives him insane, unless he feeds on other humans.

In the recent Ultimate Spider-Man game, Eddie gains full control of the Suit after finally absorbing the remnants of the first sample in Peter\'s blood via the Carnage creature, and gains the spider-symbol on his chest.

He kills Bolivar Trask, the man he thinks is responsible for his parents\' deaths. (Although Eddie Sr. is actually responsible for trying on the Venom suit on a plane.)

Peter wonders if he\'s afraid of Eddie, or for him.

Also, in the original Marvel Universe, Venom is immune to Peter\'s spider-sense. In Ultimate, Venom instead overloads it, to the point where Peter is in such physical mental pain, he sometimes cannot move. This seems to have stopped once Venom absorbed the cells of the first sample from his blood, as both parts of the Suit had been trying to reunite.

Ultimate Venom is still at large.

Brian Michael Bendis once stated that Venom would not appear in the title as long as he wrote it. Upon Bill Jemas\'s suggestion, Bendis later incorporated Venom into the story but made the character much different than his original counterpart.



Cover to Ultimate Spider-Man#62. Art by Mark Bagley.

The Ultimate Marvel Universe version of Carnage is almost completely different from the Marvel Universe version, although both incarnations were initially designed by Mark Bagley.

Curt Conners created a rejuvenating organism using his DNA, Peter\'s DNA, and work stolen from Peter\'s late father, who was an expert in cellular reconstruction, and involved in the creation of Venom. The creature possessed its own shape-shifting ability, capable to alter its shape and proportions. The creature escaped and started to absorb other people\'s vitality and DNA to survive, leaving the victims a lifeless, mummified husk. One of the victims is Gwen Stacy.

Unlike the original Carnage, the Ultimate version does not bond with anyone. Also, despite the title of the arc being \"Carnage\", the creature is not called Carnage in the story. In addition, while the original Carnage is a homicidal maniac, the Ultimate one is a mindless creature that kills to sustain itself.

In the Ultimate Spider-Man video game, another Carnage (this universe\'s Spider-Carnage to be exact, although not named such in the game) is formed when the small amount of Venom that was not removed from Spider-Man takes over his body with the help of a serum made by Trask Industries. This Carnage is later absorbed by Venom, whose host then gains full control of the Venom suit.

I got the books of those.I have a Q. In ultimate spider man # 35 peter was in the black costume and at the vary end he became venom.Do you think that is ultimate venoms first apperince?I dont for brock was not in the costume.:conf: