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I've been thinking again, and as you all know, I don't post topics often. The reason being is that I really need to think about what I'm gonna talk about. And here's the current deept thought:

Insanity. How can you tell someone's crazy? If they tell you they're crazy, then that's null and void- most people don't realize that something's wrong at all. Now on that same card, what if those people are just seeing a little more of the world than we are? Are they truly insane or do they want to be more, see more, DO more?

Thoughts, please. Intelligible posts only, with relevence to the topic.


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You say that 'insane' people might see more of the world than most people. They realise more things, besides the simple facts that those things are complicated (which can usually also be seen by most other people, but those people don't take time to see beyond that, or simply cannot see beyond that).

In this way, you might want to say that 'insane' people are the truly 'sane'. 'Sane' is often assumed a synonym of 'wise', as in the latin words of Homo Sapiens, meaning 'wise man'. So if 'wise' means 'sane', and 'sane' equals to 'being short-shighted', to say it like that (not talking about people who are in need of glasses/lenses), then our very own species are, in fact, naturally short-sighted. Naturally stupidious.

So then, 'insane' people aren't actually Homo Sapiens. They have thrown away their short-sightedness and become 'insane', they have gained the ability to look beyond the first look that only tells you that something is or is not complicated. Going on on that, 'insane' people are actually some kind of 'mutants' of our species, as mutants are beings that differ from others within their species. Going further, if we'd put together all 'insane' people, separate them from all 'sane' people, yet have both live under same conditions, eating the same kinds of food, and more of such things, could it be that the 'insane' people would evolve into an entire new, improved species? Homo Insanus?


Yeah, at first look it appears quite crazy. However, you must keep in your mind, that that is what it's all about.


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http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/insanity_test.htm Take the link and find out if you're insane.


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Thoughts, please. Intelligible posts only, with relevence to the topic.


Did I stutter?

A test to find out if you're insane isn't what I'm asking for here and you should know that.


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I swear this has been done before.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

And

"Insane people are always sure that they are fine. It is only the sane people who are willing to admit that they are crazy."

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I can tell if people are insane if they're saying Elvis told them to kill others.

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I can tell if people are insane if they're saying Elvis told them to kill others.


Pfft, no way...

... I only listen to THE FONZE.


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You say that 'insane' people might see more of the world than most people. They realise more things, besides the simple facts that those things are complicated (which can usually also be seen by most other people, but those people don't take time to see beyond that, or simply cannot see beyond that).


I agree wholeheartedly with that. All the people that can see ghosts are a prime example of it; "normies" (As I like to call the populace) don't believe in all that, so therefore it must not exist, right? Without seeing, no believing. So they medicate and try to re-educate them but the symptoms usually only get worse. So in that case society is responsible.

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In this way, you might want to say that 'insane' people are the truly 'sane'. 'Sane' is often assumed a synonym of 'wise', as in the latin words of Homo Sapiens, meaning 'wise man'. So if 'wise' means 'sane', and 'sane' equals to 'being short-shighted', to say it like that (not talking about people who are in need of glasses/lenses), then our very own species are, in fact, naturally short-sighted. Naturally stupidious.


I wouldn't go so far as to say that most people are stupid, just not open-minded. If it isn't in a book or a movie or something, then it's not right and must be gotten rid of. So, no, not stupid, just ignorant and lacking a certain finesse in common sense.

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So then, 'insane' people aren't actually Homo Sapiens. They have thrown away their short-sightedness and become 'insane', they have gained the ability to look beyond the first look that only tells you that something is or is not complicated. Going on on that, 'insane' people are actually some kind of 'mutants' of our species, as mutants are beings that differ from others within their species. Going further, if we'd put together all 'insane' people, separate them from all 'sane' people, yet have both live under same conditions, eating the same kinds of food, and more of such things, could it be that the 'insane' people would evolve into an entire new, improved species? Homo Insanus?


Ah, well, a subspecies yeah. Maybe not a whole -new- species, but still it's there. It's should also be noted that most insane people have different brainwave patterns than that of normies; they have a superintelligent disposition more often than not. I mean hell, what kind of intellect would it take to hear convincing voices in your head or seeing people out of the corners of your eye? If only they could turn their power OUTWARD...


Reality swirled in a wholly blue manner, revealing absolutely nothing of merit. Things flashed madly in and out of existence like some entirely other sort of phenomena. On a whim, Kurt Vonnegut imploded, taking a sizeable hunk of Massachusetts with him. However, seeing as Massachusetts wasn't entirely sure it existed, the chunk wasn't all that big.

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What kind of intellect?

Personally I think you'd have to be pretty stupid to pay attention to voices in your head and do what they say. Or at least, one without your own thoughts/ideas/decisions/etc.

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What kind of intellect?

Personally I think you'd have to be pretty stupid to pay attention to voices in your head and do what they say. Or at least, one without your own thoughts/ideas/decisions/etc.


It's the intellect that weaves the intricate falseities that gets me. How can you create something that seems so real but obviously is not? Like in A Beautiful Mind, he was able to create not just one but three people, two of which were related. That kind of intellect. Not necessarily the whole listening to their own voices intellect but the whole making it seem real aspect.

That's the main thing I'm curious about, because not all intelligent people are insane, but most insane people are intelligent. What the hell is up with that?


Reality swirled in a wholly blue manner, revealing absolutely nothing of merit. Things flashed madly in and out of existence like some entirely other sort of phenomena. On a whim, Kurt Vonnegut imploded, taking a sizeable hunk of Massachusetts with him. However, seeing as Massachusetts wasn't entirely sure it existed, the chunk wasn't all that big.

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I'll comment with new thoughts on this later but...

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Personally I think you'd have to be pretty stupid to pay attention to voices in your head and do what they say. Or at least, one without your own thoughts/ideas/decisions/etc.

Not all voices relating to what most may consider insanity, or partial insanity, at least, DON'T relate to your own thoughts and decisions. Sometimes the insanity stemes FROM that.

I believe there are two types of 'insane.' The kind easily observable from the outside, such as the patient in the mental institue that constantly believes Lucille Ball is calling him on the payphone (and they know he isn't, because they can moniter his phone calls, or maybe that celebrity is dead), and the kind that probably actually DOES have ideas that he may be insane (or, in the case of a Hannibal Lecter, knows he is insane and likes it), but no one else will agree with him wihtout an in-depth psychological profile or a relationship which shows his deepest mind. This is the kind where the voices are actually OF himself, rather then the guy who has to masturbate out the window because the T.V. told him to.

All are real-life examples (besides, of course, Lecter if that story is fictional).

The second kind is dangerous.