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In ZX, it is said that

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"Serpent only has the Model W fragment. The Core is still buried somewhere."
Well, all Vent/Aile had were the X,Z,H,F,L,P,
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fragments, so why wouldn't each have a core somewhere?

Edited by HighMaxOmega on September 24, 2006 at 13:40:37.


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Spoiler tags, please.


They've all been said without tags so many times that everyone knows everything anyway, but I'll still edit them in.


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The game is still too recent, thus spoiler tags are still needed.

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At first I thought the core was in Guardian HQ, but Prometheus said that it was the airship's reactor. Maybe the mentioning of the "fragments" for Vent/Aile's Biometals were because H, F, L, and P were fragmented, as they were split between two Pseudodroids each.


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At first I thought the core was in Guardian HQ, but Prometheus said that it was the airship's reactor. Maybe the mentioning of the "fragments" for Vent/Aile's Biometals were because H, F, L, and P were fragmented, as they were split between two Pseudodroids each.


But the "fragment" of W was not split and did the same thing for Serpent. But you could very well be right.


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let's see.

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Model W was the "original" Model, the first one. Ciel found it after the crash of Ragnarok and since she knew it was the Core Wiel fused with in MMZ4, she manage to create 6 others; X, Z, L, P, F and H to stop it, should it ever be used. i don't know anything of Model O, or model Ω i prefer to call it.

the next thing come directly from Wikipedia

Model W (Model V in the Japanese version) is the original Biometal, formed from the pieces of the core of the Ragnarok Space Station that Dr. Weil (Dr. Vile in the Japanese version) fused with, which was destroyed at the end of Mega Man Zero 4. Ciel analyses these pieces and develops the other 6 Biometals, to stop Model W. A small fragment is found by Serpent 10 years prior to the game, triggering the Maverick outbreaks. It is used only by Serpent at end of the game.

Perhaps there are other fragments and those might point out that there will be a sequel.


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Oh my god, can you see it? Can you see it?! Everybody going about with a small piece of Model W going evil and wreaking havoc everywhere!


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Maybe we'll see SX, VX, and AX after all. O.o

Sorry, had to say AX. I know you want to hurt me now.


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Hahaha... no, I don't want to hurt you, thanks to your strong MZ support. ;]

But, unfortunately, as Model W in the Japanese version is Model V, Vile may be cut out on this one... :'[

But Ray, how does that answer the question? Are you implying that the core of Model W is one and the same as the core of Ragnarok? Hmmm...


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Here'd be a good idea for a ZX2. You have to find and protect the Model Core(s) for the X, Z, H, F, L, and P Biometals.


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...from Model ∑, Prometheus, Pandora, the Model W Core, and Barney, Serpent's second cousin!


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But Ray, how does that answer the question? Are you implying that the core of Model W is one and the same as the core of Ragnarok? Hmmm...


in some way or another, i think yes.

the main question of this topic was "Where are, and what happened to the Cores of the other Biometals"

they may not have any, OR, they "are" the "core" of their model, because they were artificially created by "Sis". they were not found like model W. the Model W we know might be a small fragment of the core of Ragnarok, Weil fused with in the end of MMZ4, his ?conciusness? was absorbed into the core and survived for hundreds of years, because the core wasn't destroyed in the crash. perhaps a small part broke off, which was later called Model W, was found by "Sis" and the other 6 were created.


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Maybe we'll see SX, VX, and AX after all. O.o

Sorry, had to say AX. I know you want to hurt me now.


SigmaX, VileX, AxlX?

...no, I do not want to hurt you because you said AX. In fact, I would like it.


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^ Although it wouldn't make much sense since Axl was probably long dead before Ragnarok.

And my opinion on the "core" nonsense? From what I understand the guardians, X and Zero's metals were crafted by combining some part of their essence with a fragment of Ragnarok. But Weil, in addition to that, was also merged with the actual core of Ragnarok. Ergo, Model W has a core. The others do not.

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^ Although it wouldn't make much sense since Axl was probably long dead before Ragnarok.

And my opinion on the "core" nonsense? From what I understand the guardians, X and Zero's metals were crafted by combining some part of their essence with a fragment of Ragnarok. But Weil, in addition to that, was also merged with the actual core of Ragnarok. Ergo, Model W has a core. The others do not.


If you state that, you're saying that they all share the same core, but Model W is the overruling power that drives it, thus making it the Model W core. So saying that only Model W has a core goes against your backup, if you get what I'm saying.

And didn't Zero in Z4 destroy the core of Ragnarok himself, leaving just the parts that flew off and hit earth to be used for biometals? And plus, no offense to the biometals, seeing as advanced as the reploids were in their earlier lives, don't you think the biometals seem kinda... weak compared to what they once were? There's got to be more to this, don't you think?


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About the Model W Core thing... Wikipedia stated that it was created when fragments of Ragnarok's core fused together...

The AX thing was a little joke. I've been told I'd be hurt if someone mentioned AX. O.o

Model X was more powerful than its "father"... double charge shot, after all. But yeah, it was. Model Z looked more powerful than ZX, the "ultimate" Mega Man.


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About the Model W Core thing... Wikipedia stated that it was created when fragments of Ragnarok's core fused together...

The AX thing was a little joke. I've been told I'd be hurt if someone mentioned AX. O.o

Model X was more powerful than its "father"... double charge shot, after all. But yeah, it was. Model Z looked more powerful than ZX, the "ultimate" Mega Man.


Like Model X could never (as far as I know) merge wit any of Light's armor, there's no black model Z (it'd be awesome, though), model HX can't fly, FX can't rapidly shoot innumrable large fireballs, LX can't shoot laser-blades from the halberd, PX can't ride the shuriken (dangit!), and so on. So there must be more...

Hey, if Ragnarok's core was Weil's body when he died, and when the Biometal Fragment W was brough back to that body, it gained its ultimate power, what if the other fragments' old bodies were repaired and merged with them?

...that's a lot of Model ∑'s, then... ):]

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I was the one who said I'd hurt someone for Ax/ Not that Axl bad or anything (though at times he IS :] ), thinking of the fact that it'd be teen+teen makes me afraid of its overpowerful adolescent abilities (:O


Edited by HighMaxOmega on October 1, 2006 at 13:48:11.


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The Model ∑ joke was a nice touch, HighMax.

Haha, you're right. Model ∑ would never stand a chance against Model AX. The combined levels of testosterone or testosterone with estrogen would turn ∑ into dust.

But, about the maturity... Model A would be combined with Model X, who has plenty to spare, and Model F sounds an awful lot like Axl... they're both like "Let's go shoot something!"

Edited by RisingDragon on October 1, 2006 at 12:15:34.


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The Model ∑ joke was a nice touch, HighMax.

Haha, you're right. Model ∑ would never stand a chance against Model AX. The combined levels of testosterone or testosterone with estrogen would turn ∑ into dust.

But, about the maturity... Model A would be combined with Model X, who has plenty to spare, and Model F sounds an awful lot like Axl... they're both like "Let's go shoot something!"


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And then Model ∑ would look back at why he had Jakob project prototypes made, and he'd say "I have created a MONSTER!!" Or, more dramatic, "I have created a TEENAGER!!"

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Controls:
B: Jump (and shoot a lot)
A: Overdrive (shoots a lot without button use)
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X: Shoot-shoot-shoot-KABOOM!

Special abilities: Shoot a lot.

Now, that being said, model FV would be one heck of a nightmare! ):]


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Model AF: *in middle of mission briefing* ARGHHH!!! THIS ISN'T LORD OF THE FREAKING RINGS WE DON'T NEED EVERY STUPID DETAIL TO FOLLOW THE DAMN MISSION!!!
Model L: Are you okay, Model AF?
Model AF: I think I ruptured something...

And...

Model FV: *during story interlude about Model W* Urrrggh!
Prairie: Vent? Is there something wrong?
Model FV: ALL THIS TALK IS MAKING MY BRAIN HURT! I WANNA GO SHOOT SOMETHING!!
Vent: *whispering* Is it too late to go back home?

Edited by RisingDragon on October 1, 2006 at 14:28:31.


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Model AF: *in middle of mission briefing* ARGHHH!!! THIS ISN'T LORD OF THE FREAKING RINGS WE DON'T NEED EVERY STUPID DETAIL TO FOLLOW THE DAMN MISSION!!!
Model L: Are you okay, Model AF?
Model AF: I think I ruptured something...

And...

Model FV: *during story interlude about Model W* Urrrggh!
Prairie: Vent? Is there something wrong?
Model FV: ALL THIS TALK IS MAKING MY BRAIN HURT! I WANNA GO SHOOT SOMETHING!!
Vent: *whispering* Is it too late to go back home?

Edited by RisingDragon on October 1, 2006 at 14:28:31.


Prairie: You HAVE NO HOME, Vent. Why the *eeep* do you think Giro raised you, you idiot! And clue in - you mom was my sis!

Vent: That's a lie just to keep me here!

Stuffed Animal: Shutup I will kill you all!

Model V: *dismerges* Master SIGMA?

Stuffed Animal: Vile! Yes, it's me, Model ∑!

Prairie: *pulls zipper* And Dynamo!

*Fleuve enters*

Fleuve: Don't forget me! *yoink!* Axl the Testosteroid!

Vent: Ack! Any more of you!?

Serpent: YES!! AHAHAHAHA! *pulls zipper* ....ahhh, relief!

Vent: That's just sick.

Model W: Oh good goly, get on with it!

*Guardian HQ morphs into Ragnarok Mk.II*

Model ∑: My, followers, today id the day we conquer -

Serpent: Oh crap, I missed!

*fzzzt! fzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!* *BOOM*

And Vent woke up from a very, VERY twisted nightmare.

Serpent: Vent? You okay? You know I'm not the president of an evil company like in your dreams, okay, son?

Vent: DAD GET THE *eeep* AWAY FROM ME! NO MORE PEE! AAAAAAAHHHH!


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...

You just made me afraid to go to sleep tonight.


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You just made me afraid to go to sleep tonight.


Thank you very much. :]

Vent: Mom, dad's gonna pee on my computers!

Serpent: It was a nighmare, Vent-

Vent: MOOOOM!

Ciel: Goodness gracious, honey, it's 3 in the morning!

Serpent: He thinks I'm-

Vent: Get out of here, you!

Serpent: I AM YOUR FATHER AND-

Ciel: You'll wake the neighbors. So shut up. So what happened in your nightmare, Vent!

Aile: MOOOM1 Can you get Vent and Dad to shut up!? I wanna sleep!

Vent: Go to sleep then, and stop whining!

Aile: Pee!

Vent: *sucks thumb*

Ciel: Go take care of Aile honey. I'll talk to Vent.

Serpent: Great, I'm the adult male and I'm the one stuck to go the adolescent female.

Ciel: .... Anyway, Vent, these are just nightmares. There's nothing to worry about.

Vent: Okay, I'm sorry for all the fuss...

Aile: VENT, YOU MORON! IT'S A *eeep* DREAM! SHUT UP AND GO TO SLEEP!

Serpent: I'm goin' to bed.

Ciel: Me, too, just take it easy Vent.

Vent: Sure I will, when I'm DEAD!

*Goes to sleep*

Model ∑: Anyway, *ahem*, Today is the day we conquer-

Vent: You don't scae me! Any of you!

???: Don't be so sure.

*Beam breaks cieling*

Model ∑: You've gotta be freakin' kidding me. What now, Dr. Wily?

Wily: Oh, I'm not Wily... *yoink*
Lumine: Hahahahahhahahahaha!

Model ∑: ... Model V, want the honors?

Lumine: No guns can destroy me! I am not vulnerable to that!

Serpent: But I do know your one true weakness!

Lumine: What!?

Serpent: Go use the bathroom.

*Lumine stands in front of male/female bathroom doors, can't decide*

Lumine: *eep*, you're right.

Edited by HighMaxOmega on October 2, 2006 at 20:18:08.


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