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Okay, the only reason I'm making this thread is because I've heard alot of people(surprisingly) arguing over who the Models were based off of. I've even heard someone say HX was based off of Elpizo for Pete's' sakes! So I'm gonna settle it for everyone. (feel free to argue if you wish)

Model X: Copy/Omega X

Model Z: Copy/Megaman Zero

Model H: Harpuia

Model L: Leviathan

Model P: Phantom

Model F: Fefnir

Model W: Weil

Model O: Origional/Omega Zero


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>.> How is Model X based off of Copy X? If that were so, he'd have wings and cooler attacks.


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No, the other form, you know, of him without the armor?


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The one that did nothing? Still, Model X looks closer to X than Copy X.


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Well, if you recall, in MMZ3 Weil rebuilt Copy X using Megaman X's' origional body.


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Actually, probably just used the same blueprints Ciel did. Seeing how Ciel used the original body's DNA to create Copy X, and the original body was destroyed before Weil arrived on the scene.


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Actually, probably just used the same blueprints Ciel did. Seeing how Ciel used the original body's DNA to create Copy X, and the original body was destroyed before Weil arrived on the scene.


Not true, the body just mistierously dissapeared. All Elpizo did was stab it, he didn't blow it up or anything like that. So Weil probably snuck in and took it.


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... the whole structure, including the body, exploded, DS.


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Well, there always is that slim chance that there is in every megaman series. Plus, Model X seems a bit too strong to be based off of Megaman X, you know, being the double shot and all. I mean, in the X series, the only time you could doublr shot were in X2 and X3.


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Then again, X had probably undergone some nice upgrades between X8 and the Elf Wars.


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Then again, X had probably undergone some nice upgrades between X8 and the Elf Wars.


Maybe, but remember, we have no idea what kind of attacks Copy X could do in his first form. For all we know, he coould probably shoot a blast the size of Texas.


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Regardless of the game mechanics the plot implicated that Copy X was mentally unhinged because he falsely thought that he was superior to which he was designed to replace. Were he, in fact, the more powerful, his psychosis would have been justified.

Secondly, X and Zero fight (X5) it ends in a draw.

Zero and Copy X fight, Zero wins. I think it's clear.

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Regardless of the game mechanics the plot implicated that Copy X was mentally unhinged because he falsely thought that he was superior to which he was designed to replace. Were he, in fact, the more powerful, his psychosis would have been justified.

Secondly, X and Zero fight (X5) it ends in a draw.

Zero and Copy X fight, Zero wins. I think it's clear.


You're forgetting about if Zero goes maverick or not. If you do that storyline, Zero gets owned in X2 AND X5.


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X2 yeah. X5 is always a draw. Even if you win, the other one will sucker-punch you.

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Anyway, to add to me saying Model X is based off of Copy X:

You also have to take into account that Ciel made the Biometal's'(except W, which forms itself). She also built Copy X, and would therefor know what he's capable of. Plus, she had no idea who the origional X was, therefor not knowing his powers.


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He appeared to her twice in the first Zero game.

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Well she had never seen his powers. As for Fefnir, Phantom, Harpuia, and Leviathan, she probably monotered Zero's' battles with them.


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What powers? As a Cyber Elf, he could reverse and protect against the Dark Elf's reploid control. X had no "powers" like the Four Guardians. He had his abilities... charge shot, weapon copy, dashing, armor compatibility... Copy X had all of those abilities. He was as strong as X... just not as good as X. He didn't undergo all the battles and events of the X games, thus didn't have the experience or the drive like the Original X.

Besides, I'd like to see some written proof that Model X is based off of Copy X. Seeing how Model X's personality is that of Original X's.


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All of the Biometal's' personality's' have good guy personality's'. Except W.

Anyway, powers and abilites are pretty much the same thing from my view.

Edited by DreamSword on December 3, 2006 at 17:39:21.


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You forgot Model O's, which doesn't seem to have one.

But you still haven't offered me any proof that it's based off of Copy X.


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And seriously, there's no "Copy Zero".

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What he meant by that is that it's based off of Zero's copy body, the one he used in the Zero series. Although personally I think that one is more attuned to the old Zero, and ZX is attuned to Zero's copy body, and that Model O is also like old Zero, except with Omega inhabiting it.


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You forgot Model O's, which doesn't seem to have one.


But you forget, Model O isn't really a BioMetal. It's a stone with the properties of one.


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Nope, it's a Biometal. Listen to what Fluerve said about it. He said that it was a special kind of Biometal, and that you could use it in tandem with Model X.


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Nope, it's a Biometal. Listen to what Fluerve said about it. He said that it was a special kind of Biometal, and that you could use it in tandem with Model X.


Yeah, yeah, I know what he says. But it isn't a 'normal' Biometal. It's a stone that works like one.


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Biometal is a biometal, it just was created differently. Calling it a stone is rather pointless.

But whatever. Still waiting on proof.


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Biometal is a biometal, it just was created differently. Calling it a stone is rather pointless.

But whatever. Still waiting on proof


I already applied my "proof", but whatever.


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Well, consider this. Copy X is a copy of X. Um... duh. He was Ciel's best effort to recreate Megaman X. So if, say, someone looked at the Mona Lisa and painted a copy of it, and them someone else looked at the copy and painted a copy of it... You would still say they copied the Mona Lisa... So therefore, it really doesn't matter if it was based off X or Copy X... It's still based off X in the long run.

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Then again, X had probably undergone some nice upgrades between X8 and the Elf Wars.


Maybe, but remember, we have no idea what kind of attacks Copy X could do in his first form. For all we know, he coould probably shoot a blast the size of Texas.


Uhh... then the Resistance woulda been dead LOOOOOOOOOONG before Zero 1 could havve even dreamt of being started.


And if Ciel did not know Original X's powers, how could she make Copy X? She NEEDED X. Get it? COPY X. Plus, as RD said, you'd get those funky fin-things that remind me of the Fourth Armor so darn much.


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Then again, X had probably undergone some nice upgrades between X8 and the Elf Wars.


Maybe, but remember, we have no idea what kind of attacks Copy X could do in his first form. For all we know, he coould probably shoot a blast the size of Texas.


Uhh... then the Resistance woulda been dead LOOOOOOOOOONG before Zero 1 could havve even dreamt of being started.


And if Ciel did not know Original X's powers, how could she make Copy X? She NEEDED X. Get it? COPY X. Plus, as RD said, you'd get those funky fin-things that remind me of the Fourth Armor so darn much.


Noooooooo, she based Copy X off of Megaman X's' design/looks.


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