http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX7Z4tTx67s

...By the way, if you have ever seen those pop-up advertisements for the referral program based on "Web 2.0" and "marketing gurus", you already know this is true...

The only company I know of that is against net neutrality is Virgin Mobile/Media, whatever, they're in the UK, they suck.

Companies make more money online now then they would if this transition happened. I'm sure all large companies like Google, Yahoo, Ebay, Apple, etc... are against this, and well, they drive the tech market.

Those are internet companies and they fought for network neutrality in last year's war in senate and congress.

But to be honest, it's semi-unrealistic as no one is going to want to pay for their site to be displaced. That would ruin the purpose of datacenters, that are WAY huger then ISP's themselves, sure ARIN allows IP blocks to be issued, and class A, and B IP's to be assigned to you guys, but the real money makers through this are Datacenters, and web hosting companies, one can't co-exist without the other.

Do the math.

Edit: WHT(WebHosting Talk) Has this discussion about once a year, and each time we go through it, step-by-step analysis, outcomes, worst case scenarios, it always comes down that their are too many ISP's out there to limit.

If it ever DID happen, then well, what do pirates do? You break it, you split into a rogue organization, oh well.

But chances are VERY unlikely that it'd ever happen, despite whats in the senate, notice, it's not going anywhere.

the fight still goes on though.

despite they werent able to pass it as legislation, at&t and comcast (and recently Bell canada) STILL did 'throttle down' certain types of traffic, illegally.

we need a network neutrality law passed. its proposed in canada as of now. Something that limits what ISP's can do, that says we can have a free internet of some sort.


Regardless, I believe that their would be a mass riot, no doubt.
Edited by Dr. Light on August 16, 2008 at 13:19:22. ^_-

Edited by Dr. Light on August 16, 2008 at 13:28:50.

Woops.

Edited by Dr. Light on August 16, 2008 at 13:18:54.

Cars aleady run on water, I am unsure how this is a conspiracy theory, it's actually half-water half-gas with a componenet added to the engine that makes this possible (different then "watered down gas), there is also already an engine that has been designed and used which runs on AIR. I *will* come across the water link again, and if I come across the one for air I'll let you know and post them. (There is some debate as to whether the water model is healthier for the cars or not.)

The world ending in 2012 was an idea propogated by Nostradamus and the Mayan calendar. The Mayan are an ancient civilization that had some sort of calendar, but their calendar abruptly ended in the year 2012 without apparent explanation. The civiliation was defintely old enough that 2012 was a time very far in the future for the Mayans, so if they were basing it on their persoanl expected lifespans or something of the like it would have ended much earlier then that. Although I am not entirely sure how a calendar can "end" since most calendars are jsut "renewed" at the appropiate time, apparently the Mayan model allowed for an "ending". Or maybe they are referring to a calendar of predictions. Because of the fact that Nostradmus and a few other "historical psychics" agreed with there being disasters of some kind in 2012, the year has scared people. This would also be the end of the age of Pisces which has astrological as well as Biblican (Christian Bible) significance.

A years or two ago when I posted something about Net Neutrality at this forum, this being the first I'd heard of it, I was met with semi-sarcastic remarks abuot how this is "old" and "this was already voted down". If the bills on that are *still* being reintroduced all the time, I guess I wasn't wrong to post it then.

Maybe I had it wrong, maybe it was BD, but the reason I mentioned MaceMan is because I thought he had been the one talking about saving up silver a bit in the other thread I'd posted in the day before I posted this. The reason I mentioned Wind is because he is very aware of the current government net monitering; the FBI topic posted on this board and they called his house once on a completely separate issue as well. Of course, he can't access the board at the moment.

The way the document this person filmed... or whatever that is, reads, the only way to do anything about this woudl be for vigilantes to set up their own "ISPs," set up their own network; the way this video presents it it's not just censorship or increased fees but pretty much literally deleteing the entire net. And, for those who don't understand, the reason it's scary is because (other then the fact that most people here probably pretty much need the net in their lives) of the extreme, communistic censorship.

Google is well on it's way to joining the "Big 5" if it's not already there (does anyone know the list?), and I certianly don't think they'd be against it - the search engine isn't their major money maker anymore. They partner with many major companies for various reasons (Google Toolbar malware anyone?), and IMO they aren't as ethical as one might believe...[blog comment mine] they used to be but I'd guess they changed management or soemthing after expanding themselves ebyond adwords and searching, they seem to be falling sick with the "disease of the incoporated", though they aren't quite alll the way there yet. As for eBay... they'd be making profits. This isn't a literal deletion of the internet but rather a deletion of the World Wide web so that acess to Microsoft.com and retail sites are fine, Interordi for example would be deleted (although they won't if Canada is against this).

Comcast has complaints already about sites being blocked where users has to call and complain, obviously AOL is a problem, Microsoft well known for unethical behavior has a thing last year I think it was where they blocked access to MSN.com if using Opera and then paid them $12 million to avoid a lawsuit about it, and they are currently still restricting acess to hotmail if you're using FireFox on a non-windows machine.

This is scary because up 'til now the U.S. government has been trying to pretend that it is following the consitution - victories over the I.R.S. for example are done by citing the constitution and having actual knowledge of law and legal system. Other similar victories, such as not getting arrested for personal travel without a license have been done the same way (I can't link to the document of U.S. cases because the document is on another machine - this video is about Austraila and much of it also applies to the U.S. and other countries). But in this case, there is no attempt at pretense, no attempt at making us believe that what they are doing is constitutional - which also means no chance to fight it... or whatever other evil communism they want to throw at us afterwards (communism isn't evil but there is obviously a such thing as "evil communism").

Note: the emote is a borad script error.

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Dr. Light, you obviously know how to edit posts, if your "Woops" was an accidental double post, there should be a "delete this post" checkbox underneath the text input boz when you're editing a post.

Edited by God on August 24, 2008 at 23:57:23.