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Okay, so Sigma is the bad guy who never dies for good. But the thing is, it is a virus that makes him bad. If his true form is now the virus, does that mean that the real Sigma is dead?

Perhaps in MMX he was the real Sigma gone Maverick, but he got destroyed. But the virus lived on, and took on his memories and personality to make it a more sentient entity.

So perhaps if they found a way to cure Mavericks, it would not bring Sigma back but rather just kill him?

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True. Sigma was surprisingly easy in that game, too!

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He\'s a real wimp in the last 2 X games. In X4 he was tougher, in fact it was the first X game I\'ve played but it won\'t be the last.

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Since a reploid\'s memory, personality, behavior traits, etc are all codes or programming within their \'brains\' and a virus is code/programming, as well... It stands to say that Sigma\'s very being could merge with a virus\' code to become one entity. Sigma\'s true body is destroyed. However, Sigma himself lived on (for 7 more encounters, at that).


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Viruses cannot die...

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Ugh... yes they can. A computer virus can be cleaned or deleted failing that.

The microscopic life form can also die. It is living, and nothing is immortal. It will die over time, or via other methods. Our own immune system can destroy viruses... Have you ever had a cold? Did it kill you? No, because your body killed the virus causing it.


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maybe you\'re right, I always thought that since viruses were never truly alive, they could never be truly killed....

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If not killed, then destroyed. Either way, viruses aren\'t invulnerable.


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You\'re probably right about the virus just taking on Sigma\'s memories and personality and the real Sigma dying in the first MMX game. Though it is interesting how the virus maintains a precise copy of all of Sigma\'s previous experiences. How does that information get transferred? Does the virus survive even after the host is destroyed or are there multiple copies of Sigma\'s conscious that are somehow linked together so that each is aware of what happens to another?

I wonder if X and Sigma knew each other before Sigma went maverick. They might have since X was Cain\'s assitant at the time. Who knows maybe X helped him create Sigma?

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No.

X was sealed at the time when Sigma caught the virus and became maverick. X woke up afterwards.


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Actually, Sigma is a Reploid. Reploid are created based on Dr. Cains interpretation of X\'s scematics. So, X would have to have been released from his capsule, and then Sigma created.

I don\'t remember them ever saying that X and Sigma knew each other, but I\'m assuming they did, at least know of each other.


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Here\'s MY theory.

Zero had a virus which caused him to go haywire. Sigma then got Zero under control (when he was good) but the virus passed from Zero to Sigma causing Zero to go good and Sigma to go bat:devil:.

How do you like it. I think it\'s logical. :rofl:


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No zero was made by Dr.Willy and he was meverick and at one time sigma battled with Zero and Zero stoped for some reason and Sigma punched him in the head and from Zero being one of Willys creatsions there was a large W like thisVV on his head and it broke turning him into a repliod


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All right. Let me explain the whole thing.

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\"What do you think about Sigma? He was deleted in the first X game but the virus lived on\"
In the X games it gives you enough clues, and I think just tells you, that Sigma fused with the virus.
\"But what did that virus come from?\"
The ENTIRE problem with Sigma was caused by Zero. He was Dr. Wily\'s creation, and was intended to destroy the entire cast of the original Mega Man series. It does not tell you whether Zero did this or not, but we can assume he did. He then attacked the Maverick Hunter HQ. Zero was the first \"Maverick\".
Sigma was originally the leader of the Maverick Hunters. However, in a battle with Zero, Sigma punched Zero\'s crystalic chip(in his forehead), transferring the Maverick virus. After the first X game Sigma fused with it to become the Sigma virus. Zero apparently KEPT the virus(perhaps he merely copied it) and it became the Zero virus.
Gate was infected with a combination of the Zero(from the piece of Zero), Sigma(from the remains of X5 Sigma nearby), and Colony(from the Eurasia ruins) viruses. Now of course he went totally berserk and so strong that the only attacks that could harm him were his own.

Any confusion?


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Damn you wily you f&*%ed up again retard:madgo:


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Originally from the Mega Man cartoon
Wily:\"Why, why am I surrounded by fools?\"
Light:\"Perhaps because that\'s all you know how to build, Wily.\"


I\'d also like to get something else straight:
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No. X was sealed when Sigma was infected. He awoke afterwards.

Ahem. Let\'s look at something here.
\"A scientist named Dr. Cain found the ruins of a laboratory. Sealed in a capsule was a reploid. It was well after 30 years so the doctor opened the capsule. He got to know X very well, and created many \'Reploids\' with his data, the most powerful of which was Sigma.\"

This tells you that Sigma could not exist if X was never released. So Sigma is Dr. Light\'s fault :)

[Edited on 2/9/03 by Draco Icebane]


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Here is my theory: X and Zero where created about the same time. Zero suceeded in destroying Megaman, Roll, Rush, Protoman, And all those other guys. Dr. Light had no choice but to send X into battle. X triumphed over Zero. Dr. Light, afraid of X\'s power, put him in a capsule for 30 years. While Dr. Wily put Zero in a capsule so that Zero\'s Auto repair would work. You know the rest of the story

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X and Zero probably were completed at about the same time. I think Wily might have stolen a copy of X\'s shematics and and used them to create Zero. My reason for this is that Wily\'s most successful robot, Bass, was based off of Megaman\'s designs and at one point I believe Wily admitted that the he figured out how to make Bass as powerful as was was by accident.

I don\'t think it\'s Lights\'s that Sigma became what he is. I blame Wily since he created the virus responsible for the mavericks. If not for Zero and the Virus Sigma would probably never have rebelled. I think Sigma\'s creation by Cain had something to do with creating a reploid immune to maverick tendencies since Cain seemed to believe that Sigma would not go maverick.

I am curious as to how Sigma merged with the virus and how his data survives after each defeat.

Also If a reploid gets infected by the Sigma virus, what determines whether or not that reploid becomes the host for Sigma\'s personality(in X3 he did try to make X\'s body his new host before Zero/Doppler stopped him)?

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X triumphed over Zero

Hello? X was sealed BEFORE Zero even came. In X1 it says X was sealed simply to test him and make sure he couldn\'t go Maverick. This took 30 years. Sigma was the one who fought Zero. It tells you in X4. In order for Sigma to have been made, X had to be released.


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I have another idea. Before X1, Sigma got infected with a virus. From inside Sigma\'s head (the only part of him that dosn\'t get destroyed when you kill him), the virus killes the real Sigma so in MMX1 he\'s already been taken over and so X is not fighting Sigma\'s spirite (a robot with a spirit? How wired!!!!).


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In Mega Man X6, right before fighting Second Sigma, X says Sigma is not fully conscious but still remembers revenge.


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I wonder if it\'s really even possible to kill Sigma once and for all. I know that in X5 he had supposedly spread the virus too thinly to allow himself to revive and Gate somehow restored him in X6(Gate probably wanted another powerful lackey or did it just to see if he could).

So is there really a way to get rid of Sigma once and for all? Or he will he stop reviving once gets sick of getting killed by X? I don\'t think someone gets used to dying over and over again.

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Originally posted by CronoT2
I wonder if it\'s really even possible to kill Sigma once and for all. I know that in X5 he had supposedly spread the virus too thinly to allow himself to revive and Gate somehow restored him in X6(Gate probably wanted another powerful lackey or did it just to see if he could).

So is there really a way to get rid of Sigma once and for all? Or he will he stop reviving once gets sick of getting killed by X? I don\'t think someone gets used to dying over and over again.
I guess that X and Zero will have to fight Sigma for the rest of robotic lives....Oh well.:lol:

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Maybe Sigma makes more robot versions of himself and hides them

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Hellooooooo! Sigma wasn\'t the Final Boss in Megaman Zero. So Sigma must be completely destroyed! And has it ever occuredto you that maybe Megaman from the orriginal series is X! It is quite possible that that Light upgraded Megaman into X!:mad:

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Hellooooooo! Sigma wasn\'t the Final Boss in Megaman Zero. So Sigma must be completely destroyed! And has it ever occuredto you that maybe Megaman from the orriginal series is X! It is quite possible that that Light upgraded Megaman into X!:mad:


You are right about one thing, by the Zero series Sigma is destroyed by either X or his clone.

I\'m afraid however that X and Megaman are not the same robot. The creator of all things Megaman, Keiji Inafune said as much in his interview with the Megaman Planet staff. Capcom officials have also said this since the X series began. One of the reasons I believe that this is true is that X wonders why he was built, if he were the original Megaman he would know he had been created to be a lab assitant to Dr. Light and he would also have memories of his creator and his family instead of having no knowledge of who they even were.