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We recently splurged and went and got a nice DirecTV package with all the movie channels and stuff, so i've watched alot of HBO and Showtime recently, my normal hierarchy is something like this.

- ESPN (sportscenter and stuff in the mornings)
- HBO (Generally, this varies by month and what they're running)

- Boomerang (Good Cartoons. Most Cartoon Network is awful now with their horrible live action stuff, terribly dubbed anime, and largely awful new shows. Same for nickelodeon, although they have shown a little improvement recently)
- TNT (Supernatural and House reruns)
- Spike (CSI:, 1000 ways to die, Deadliest Warrior)
- FX (Always Sunny, FX movies)
- Sci-Fi (I refuse to say "syfy", mainly for their awful original movies, great for riffing with friends.)
- Comedy Central (Specials, Colbert, Daily Show, South Park)


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Avatar showed truth to the religion, I don't really think that's a stereotype because only people who know what it really is know about the stuff shown in that movie.

If you were talking about something else I'm not sure... to many pronouns or whatever.


Call me me crazy, but I doubt James Cameron was going for Wicca.

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By using better directing and MUCH better actors, as I said already. I'm not sure what you mean by "deliberately invoking a hero's journey," since that would be part of the plot, which was fine.

You need more context in your quotes. And you seem to be getting angry for no apparent reason... They're movies, who cares.


Perhaps this is just personal opinion, but if you think that Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill were bad actors... well, frankly I'm not sure your taste in acting is anything I'd be interested inn.

I'm actually pretty calm, truth be told. It is just a movie sure, but it's also a cultural phenomenon. And if you have the right to hate it (and you do) I have the right to voice my disagreement as well.

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No idea but if so Star Wars is a bad example.


*sigh*

Next you'll be dissing Indiana Jones, and Sean Connery, and if you do that, then the terrorists win!

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Um wtf I was thinking of Sean William Scott O_O.


Who?

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Didn't take you for someone who would condone sluts and prostitution...


Well, slut is sort of a loaded word, unless you'd be just as quick to apply it to a man.

Anyway, do I condone prostitution? No. No, I don't. But that's hardly the point, now is it?

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For that matter now not only are you not including context, but actually removing it.

The actual quote is Morally, you can't compare watching porn to being a prostitute, nor can you compare making although you can in some specific cases. This is pretty easy to figure out once you realize that 99.5% of people in 1st-world countries have a problem with people who use or sell or are prostitutes while they're married, but only 5% of those people have a problem with those that watch porn while married, and the ones that do are quickly corrected and hopefully ostracized as well.



Clearly this means that they cannot be the same thing.


No, it doesn't. You've dressed it up with more words but it's still an appeal to popularity. Your argument is essentially that the two must be different because people think they're different. Fallacious reasoning.


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Sexist, yes, believed by the populace, no.


Not as widely as it used to be. But you're just being foolish if you think the attitude no longer exists.

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Speaking of this, I've met a LOT of prostitutes. Like, over 300. And almost every single one of them did it because "pushing this negative and disgusting energy into society while teaching children that it is perfectly okay to have sex with anyone you meet is a great way for me to get lots of money". I have only ever met one female who had a "pimp," and that one talked about how she was happy changing from one who took most of her money to one who didn't. Most of these "people" also like themselves.

Another reason that talking about "exploitation by pimps" is ridiculous, is because any female that chooses to be associated with this, has chosen to associate themselves with one. If they chose to continue to be a prostitute but not associate with a "boss," they could do that as well. The only exception is small children who are basically used as slaves and horrifically abused and are being raped every time they are "sold".


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So I suppose most people in America also believe in slavery (solely because there has been no actual poll to determine the exact number, which is clearly and inarguably very, very low)?


This statement is ridiculous. If you don't know something, it can't be "inarguable".

Did you know, that 87.5% of Americans think that Europe is a fictional place made up delusional people who want attention? I mean, no actual poll has been done, but it's so obvious and inarguable.

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This comment seems taken out of context as the discussion was not scientific in the first place.


It should be at least partially scientific if statistics are to mean anything.

Anyway. I enjoy NBC and ABC (network television channels) with some of their shows. Too bad Heroes was cancelled after the first season.

I'm also a fan of Comedy Central, but mostly for The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and reruns of Scrubs.

Then there's USA (Monk, Psych, Burn Notice, etc. Lots of great hour-long shows) and FX (Sons of Anarchy!) which does a lot of good dramas as well.

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How are "Hot Lips" sweet? They're just wax, but unflavored. Unless you are thinking of something else called Hot Lips.


Actually, they are made of waxy substance, but the ones I eat are cinnamon flavoured, I never said they were sweet, and if I did, they most definitely are not~ :P


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This just reminded me of a fun fact: Smarties around the world (including Canada) are different than those from the US!

Smarties worldwide are small, round pieces of sugar-coated chocolate as seen here. In the US, however, they are round pieces of flavored candy found in a roll, such as this larger version. The latter are known as Rockets in Canada. That difference between Smarties across the border caused me some serious confusion a few years ago as I was talking to a friend!


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That's weird. I wonder why that is?

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The new subject...

Talk about your last week, what you have done consctructive or deconstructive.

I myself, moved into a new house, one with a third bedroom. Thank goodness.


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I went to work regularly all week, and ended the week by purchasing a second Xbox 360 and a 22-inch HD LCD TV.


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Call me me crazy, but I doubt James Cameron was going for Wicca.


No, definitely not. The theme was Pagan.

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Perhaps this is just personal opinion, but if you think that Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill were bad actors... well, frankly I'm not sure your taste in acting is anything I'd be interested inn.


They could be GREAT actors for all I know, but they did a horrible job in Star Wars. Hard to see how they got any jobs after that unless they either a) had previous stuff as well or B) it was just for the names.

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It is just a movie sure, but it's also a cultural phenomenon.


...And that is why it was so confusing. I cannot see how it would hold any interest, except for the "if you're a geek you MUST like this movie" part. And since geeks weren't considered a good thing until the 90's, there's a hole bunch of time in between there where it's popularity should have dropped WAAAAY off.

The only fans of Star Wars that make sense to me are those were actually around when it came out. Which at that point it had "great special effects" and possibly even an original storyline (I have seen older episodes of TV shows that had space-related Sci-Fi, so it's not actually the first, but maybe people thought it was.)

Of course, "Great special effects" isn't really a reasonable reason to like a movie. Especially since movies with HORRIBLE special effects can still be great movies (in the opinions of many, not as "my personal opinion", I mean).


Sean Willian Scott is Stifler.

Are you trying to say there is no such thing as a male slut? Because if so you are EXTREMELY wrong.

Indiana Jones could not even be remotely interesting, unless it's extremely comedic. I haven't seen it. However, Indiana Jones has to do with an uninteresting genre, such as sports movies or movies that think they are somehow going to be "good movies" solely because they involves explosions or some shit. However, just because the subject matter is uninteresting does not mean it was actually a bad movie. Star Wars is just a bad movie; there's a difference between that and an uninteresting one. Arrogant 70's-stereotypical-types males would also say The Notebookis uninteresting. But that doesn't make it a bad movie.

It's not possible to make a good movie with *really* bad acting, unless it was done on purpose such as in Scary movie.


Clearly this means that they cannot be the same thing.[/quote]

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No, it doesn't. You've dressed it up with more words but it's still an appeal to popularity. Your argument is essentially that the two must be different because people think they're different. Fallacious reasoning.


Okay, so you believe it is somehow possible to like one thing and dislike another while both are actually the exact same thing. And since more people have a problem with prostitution then do with porn, that means there are some people who approve of one but disapprove of the other.

Well I suppose you are entitled to believe whatever you want but the laws of science, the laws of the universe, and the dictionary all "disagree" with (or rather disprove) you.

Also one, and only one, of the two is actually illegal... so it's kind of hard for two things to be "exactly the same thing" when one is legal and the other is not =\.

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This statement is ridiculous. If you don't know something, it can't be "inarguable".

Did you know, that 87.5% of Americans think that Europe is a fictional place made up delusional people who want attention? I mean, no actual poll has been done, but it's so obvious and inarguable.


...Well then go conduct a poll and "prove" that most of America believes that slavery is a good thing. Because you already know the answer is false.

And you already agree that that's not true as well.

So why are you starting bullshit on a message board that is supposed to be "less into it", ON SOMETHING YOU DON'T EVEN ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH?

...Rather pointless thing to cause hostility flying all over the place about, isn't it?

Smarties is a stupid name for a candy anyways. WILLZ IT MAK-ES ME SMART11!!?1


Wait, stuff? Done? What? People do this?


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Sexist, yes, believed by the populace, no.


Not as widely as it used to be. But you're just being foolish if you think the attitude no longer exists.

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Speaking of this, I've met a LOT of prostitutes. Like, over 300. And almost every single one of them did it because "pushing this negative and disgusting energy into society while teaching children that it is perfectly okay to have sex with anyone you meet is a great way for me to get lots of money". I have only ever met one female who had a "pimp," and that one talked about how she was happy changing from one who took most of her money to one who didn't. Most of these "people" also like themselves.

Another reason that talking about "exploitation by pimps" is ridiculous, is because any female that chooses to be associated with this, has chosen to associate themselves with one. If they chose to continue to be a prostitute but not associate with a "boss," they could do that as well. The only exception is small children who are basically used as slaves and horrifically abused and are being raped every time they are "sold".


Anecdotal evidence; It's what the cool people use.


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So I suppose most people in America also believe in slavery (solely because there has been no actual poll to determine the exact number, which is clearly and inarguably very, very low)?


This statement is ridiculous. If you don't know something, it can't be "inarguable".

Did you know, that 87.5% of Americans think that Europe is a fictional place made up delusional people who want attention? I mean, no actual poll has been done, but it's so obvious and inarguable.

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This comment seems taken out of context as the discussion was not scientific in the first place.


It should be at least partially scientific if statistics are to mean anything.

Anyway. I enjoy NBC and ABC (network television channels) with some of their shows. Too bad Heroes was cancelled after the first season.

I'm also a fan of Comedy Central, but mostly for The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and reruns of Scrubs.

Then there's USA (Monk, Psych, Burn Notice, etc. Lots of great hour-long shows) and FX (Sons of Anarchy!) which does a lot of good dramas as well.[/quote]

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Originally posted by GodNo, definitely not. The theme was Pagan.


Which is a vague enough term to cover everything that isn't Abrahamic. Care to narrow your definition a bit?

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They could be GREAT actors for all I know, but they did a horrible job in Star Wars. Hard to see how they got any jobs after that unless they either a) had previous stuff as well or B) it was just for the names.


It's probably because you hold a minority opinion here. Most people, myself included, enjoy the acting in the movie.

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...And that is why it was so confusing. I cannot see how it would hold any interest, except for the "if you're a geek you MUST like this movie" part. And since geeks weren't considered a good thing until the 90's, there's a hole bunch of time in between there where it's popularity should have dropped WAAAAY off.


But it didn't. I wonder why.

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Sean Willian Scott is Stifler.


I enjoyed him in Role Models.

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Are you trying to say there is no such thing as a male slut? Because if so you are EXTREMELY wrong.


No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

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Indiana Jones could not even be remotely interesting, unless it's extremely comedic. I haven't seen it. However, Indiana Jones has to do with an uninteresting genre, such as sports movies or movies that think they are somehow going to be "good movies" solely because they involves explosions or some shit. However, just because the subject matter is uninteresting does not mean it was actually a bad movie. Star Wars is just a bad movie; there's a difference between that and an uninteresting one. Arrogant 70's-stereotypical-types males would also say The Notebookis uninteresting. But that doesn't make it a bad movie.


You haven't seen Indiana Jones, but there's no way it could be interesting. Yeah, I think that's really about all that needs to be said about your opinion on the subject.

Also, the Notebook was a bad movie.

[quote]It's not possible to make a good movie with *really* bad acting, unless it was done on purpose such as in Scary movie.

Yeah, but Star Wars doesn't have bad acting, so the point is moot. (In case you haven't guessed, without any sort of objective evidence, we're not going to agree on the quality of acting. So you're not really proving anything).

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Okay, so you believe it is somehow possible to like one thing and dislike another while both are actually the exact same thing. And since more people have a problem with prostitution then do with porn, that means there are some people who approve of one but disapprove of the other.


No, I believe that people can believe that a difference exists when it does not. For instance, people believed that white people were superior and black people were inferior. Does that make white people and black people two different things? In a superficial sense, perhaps. Ultimately however, they're the same thing.

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Well I suppose you are entitled to believe whatever you want but the laws of science, the laws of the universe, and the dictionary all "disagree" with (or rather disprove) you.


Please, do demonstrate any of that.

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Also one, and only one, of the two is actually illegal... so it's kind of hard for two things to be "exactly the same thing" when one is legal and the other is not =\.


If the difference is only superficial, then it is indeed possible.

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...Well then go conduct a poll and "prove" that most of America believes that slavery is a good thing. Because you already know the answer is false.


Backing up your arguments is not my responsibility.

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And you already agree that that's not true as well.

So why are you starting bullshit on a message board that is supposed to be "less into it", ON SOMETHING YOU DON'T EVEN ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH?

...Rather pointless thing to cause hostility flying all over the place about, isn't it?


The "hostility" started when you pulled a bullshit statistic out of your ass. I asked you to back it up with a source and you went flying off the handle.

Frankly, if you're feeling "hostility", then perhaps you're taking the internet a bit too personally.

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This thread seems to lose the "Weekly" aspect of "Weekly Discussion" whenever God posts, doesn't it?


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The new subject...

Talk about your last week, what you have done consctructive or deconstructive.

I myself, moved into a new house, one with a third bedroom. Thank goodness.


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Just came back from a funeral in NYC. It was for my grandmother's sister. And it's only now that I look around and I noticed that all my aunts and uncles are getting older now (one of them can't even walk without being bent over all the time). I hadn't seen most of them in years and it's only now that I notice that I always took them for granted.

It's a shame when you see most of your family in such bad circumstances...Heck, there's one of my cousins I've seen more in the past week-end than in the last 15 years...


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Over the last week...

I went on a bike ride to discover the neighborhood on Saturday, then I did some outdoor group activities on Sunday. Most of the remaining time has been dedicated either to work, or spent on cleaning!


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Over the last week, my aunt died from terminal cancer and I attended her funeral. Then the two people I keep in touch with most over a distance told me they couldn't do so anymore for the next half year.

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While generally speaking, I think the only good thing SyFy (ew) has had lately was BAttlestar Galactica, there's something alluring about Sharktopus.

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- Sci-Fi (I refuse to say "syfy", mainly for their awful original movies, great for riffing with friends.)


As I said the same thing, and in related news...

http://www.cracked.com/funny-5398-syfy-channel/


You know what? I think I'll stick to Space myself. :)


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Change up once again...

How much wood, would a woodchuck, wood chuck would?

Does anyone else now any other tongue twisters?


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Les chemises de l'archi-duchesse sont-elles sèches, ou archi-sèches?

Try up that one if you know French!


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And the new discussion shall be...

Old movies, such as, The Creature from the Blue Lagoon is a good example. The older Godzilla movies, which ones are your favorites.


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Can you define what qualifies as an "old movie"? Like 1970s, 60s, 50s, 40s, etc.

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Can you define what qualifies as an "old movie"? Like 1970s, 60s, 50s, 40s, etc.


Probably referring to the old "B movie" kinda deals.

In which case I have none.

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Black and White movies in general. Alfred Hithcock movies, a good amount of them I like.


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There's only one that I like, a romance one, but I can't recall the title of it.


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Black and White movies in general. Alfred Hithcock movies, a good amount of them I like.


Ah, in that case I'm going to go with North by Northwest.