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Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.

1953 - Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack.

2009 - School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1953 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.

2009 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1953 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal. Sits still in class.

2009 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.

1953 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2009 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some headache medicine to school.

1953 - Mark shares headache medicine with Principal who has a headache also.

2009 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Mary turns up pregnant.

1953 - 5 High School Boys leave town. Mary does her senior year at a special school for expectant mothers.

2009 - Middle School Counselor calls Planned Parenthood, who notifies the ACLU. Mary is driven to the next state over and gets an abortion without her parent's consent or knowledge. Mary given condoms and told to be more careful next time.

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1953: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2009: Pedro's cause is taken up by state democratic party. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he can't speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.

1953 - Ants die.

2009 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him.

1953 - In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison.

Scenario: Jonny lives closer than one mile to elementary school.

1953 - Jonny and his sister walk to school.

2009 - Jonny's parents have to pay a bus fee because they live so close to the school. Jonny not allowed to walk to school.







Yaaaaaaaay. :D


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Read that awhile back and yeah, it's pretty hillarious to see how much things have changed for the worse somewhat.


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Oh dear. If that comes a tad too close to reality it'd quite understandable some people want to get out of the US. But hey, it's moreso written for comedy.

What's the source you got for it, Light?


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LOL. disturbing thing is, it's probably true.


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Oh dear. If that comes a tad too close to reality it'd quite understandable some people want to get out of the US. But hey, it's moreso written for comedy.

What's the source you got for it, Light?


There is no source. It's pretty much factual on current events. In 1953, you could of done something say..stolen some lightbulbs, and be slapped on the wrist and the local sheriff would ask you to be sure to pay the local store back, now, you're prosecuted and hauled off to jail.


Sometimes, old 50's tv shows aren't far off from what some people really were back then. I'd presume that people were a lot more easy going back then, then what they are now, I mean, come on, you had a 'tab' for getting gas. :P


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This is what happens when parents are allowed to watch the "action" news for all the alleged dangerous trends that are usually just hilarious ruses, ala South Park's "Cheesing" episode.

Seriously though, in the past year, i've broken an ungodly amount of those rules; let's see.

Gun Rack: Paintball gear in the back of my car, with CO2, which the school dubs an inhalant. Thank god I didn't get caught.

Fist fight: Okay, this one I justify as self-defense. I was getting choked out, and I managed to get free long enough to get a good shot or two in. Nothing happened again.

ADD: I have a friend like this. We overmedicate to stupendous levels these days.

Headache medicine: As long as you're not a retard and you keep it in your bag, 99.9% of the time no one will care. Although I know a kid that got busted for having COUGH DROPS on him. Got an in-school and saturday school for it too.

Pregnancy: We have 5 pregnant girls in my graduating class (2011) right now. Amazingly, none of them are girls you would want to impregnate. That said, way too many people are amazingly stupid with condoms these days.

High School English: English is our official language. Pedro should have to learn English if he wants to be officially recognized as educated.

Firecrackers: Just go deep enough into the woods that no one notices and you won't burn anything down.

Teacher hugs: I've hugged teachers before, and no one has cared; again, it's about keeping it on the down low.

Bus fee: Well, I live around 5 miles from the school, but we don't bus to the high school at all except for special needs. That said, I drive to school, so i'm really indifferent about this stuff.

So in other words, these days, it's about keeping secrets better in order to beat the system. I've never had a detention that i've had to serve, so I speak for someone who understands just how messed up and overprotective things are these days. And people wonder why our jails are overcrowded. That said, I miss the days when I could leave my car doors unlocked.

Edited by Black Dranzer.exe on December 11, 2009 at 19:03:20.


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These are funny because they are true... :P

It is amazing on how paranoid the human race has become.

Situation: Katlyn runs into the store to buy one item, a quick trip. But leaves the baby sleeping in the car.

1953= No one really notices, and if they do, they go, "awh, what a cute little baby.

2009= Someone calls the cops that a baby was found alone in a car, before the Katlyn gets back to her car, (three minutes later), the Five O'clock news has microphones in her face and calling her an unfit mother.

People in general are becoming more and more hateful towards others, without knowing the damage they may be causing.


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Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.

1953 - Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack.

2009 - School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


School shootings are more common and more high profile than they were. I know that if I were a parent of another student at said school I personally would not see this as at all a bad thing.

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Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1953 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.

2009 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.


Well that's just bollocks :P

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Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1953 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal. Sits still in class.

2009 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.


That's right wing properganda...

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Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.

1953 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2009 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.


Where are you getting these ideas from? Are you just pulling them one by one out of your arse?

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Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some headache medicine to school.

1953 - Mark shares headache medicine with Principal who has a headache also.

2009 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.


I'm seeing a pattern here...

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Scenario: Mary turns up pregnant.

1953 - 5 High School Boys leave town. Mary does her senior year at a special school for expectant mothers.

2009 - Middle School Counselor calls Planned Parenthood, who notifies the ACLU. Mary is driven to the next state over and gets an abortion without her parent's consent or knowledge. Mary given condoms and told to be more careful next time.


So what is it that you're against here, counselling? Maybe you're against contraception? Or perhaps anonymity when it comes to abortions? What, precisely, are you saying is bad about the above?

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Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1953: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2009: Pedro's cause is taken up by state democratic party. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he can't speak English.


Yay, more Republican party propagander :D. Actually I'll admit the really worrying thing in this thread is so many people simply saying "seems legit!" without a hint of irony :-/

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Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.

1953 - Ants die.

2009 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.


*sigh*

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Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him.

1953 - In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison.


Adults need to be very careful when it comes to physical contact with children who aren't their own. It's not the teacher's place to mother the child. That said, I'd like to see a news source where a female teacher got 3 years for hugging a child.

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Scenario: Jonny lives closer than one mile to elementary school.

1953 - Jonny and his sister walk to school.

2009 - Jonny's parents have to pay a bus fee because they live so close to the school. Jonny not allowed to walk to school.


Once again: bollocks :)

Edited by Samsara on December 13, 2009 at 17:28:24.


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And once again, political correctness rears its ugly head. Wherever fun shall be found, Political Correctness will be there, ready to kick it in the crotch.

News flash, Samsara: this is something taken off the internet for the sake of humor. Dr. Light didn't make it himself.

Oh, and the Ritalin bit? Not propaganda (which you spelled wrong, btw). I know this for a fact, having experienced it myself.


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That whole list was a lovely mix of half-truths, exaggerations, outright lies, bullshit, and fear-mongering. I'm not against a bit of fun here and there, but I've dealt with fundies. That is exactly how they think.

I, for one, am glad we now live in a world where the first option of discipline isn't beating children.

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Pregnancy: We have 5 pregnant girls in my graduating class (2011) right now. Amazingly, none of them are girls you would want to impregnate. That said, way too many people are amazingly stupid with condoms these days.


You know, it's actually so that evolutionary speaking, being "hot", for a girl, is disadvantageous, because they get less offspring. Shorter, plumper women get it better on that chain.

Funny by the way how often "scientific" studies can contradict one another. The above example actually was subject to a study, and it actually sounds like a fairly logical conclusion if you think about it (especially since the "hot" women are more likely to not want kids, or prefer to adopt), whilst another showed supposedly that men are getting uglier and women are getting prettier.

But eh, I dun wanna go into a rant about scientific studies in a thread like this. :P


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Samsara; I'm not sure what the hell you were doing, but this isn't something you should take serious.

Majority of those were put together based from events(not exact events) in 1953, and then thrown together in what our state of goverment would do now.

I know for one thing, if you were caught with a small 10mg tyenol at my high school, you would be in jail, compared to maybe 20 years ago, you were asked to give it to the teacher, or the school nurse.

Another event, to what you said was 'bollocks' was the fight. At my high school, fist fights normally ended up with the cops being called, and you being taken to the city jail, congratulations, you're going to spend the evening at the station.

And I can't comment on any others but the last one; yes, depending on your age, if your under 14, they will make you take the bus instead of walking to school. Due to 'children securities' is what our Principal called it.

Please don't blow this thread out of proportion, it's just a look at how things were then, and how they can end up now, I know that majority of those probably aren't on par. But, I myself, can say that some have happened in my life, compared to what my mother or father told me happened in theirs.

Kudos to RD for telling Samsara that; cause I didn't write/type this. Just copied it from another forum I go too.(No, not a political forum, either.)


Edit; and Mega X, I thought you would know better? Surely you didn't go to a perfect high school, surely there was something that happened that you didn't think was handled very well, that was something so simple it could of easily been a misunderstanding?

I know I was sent to an alternative school to get back into my grade when I was about 16, I got into a fight with my mother that morning which resulted in me crying, so my eyes were red. I went to the school, got searched, and the guy automatically assumed that I was on marijuana(which I've never done ever in my life, nor smoke). Resulted in my mother being called and having to talk/explain what happened to the schools intendant because he didn't take my word for it.

So I can agree with you that most of those are probably half-truths, but I can account to similar events in my high school years.

Edited by Dr. Light on December 15, 2009 at 11:38:11.


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Samsara; I'm not sure what the hell you were doing, but this isn't something you should take serious.



I've known enough people to vote based on a belief of this shit being real to treat it otherwise. As Mega X said, this kind of thinking isn't far-fetched.

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And once again, political correctness rears its ugly head. Wherever fun shall be found, Political Correctness will be there, ready to kick it in the crotch.


See the above.

Edited by Samsara on December 16, 2009 at 20:25:39.


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Also, for the record Dranzer, English is not our official language. It is our de facto, but not our official. We don't actually have an official language.

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Samsara; I'm not sure what the hell you were doing, but this isn't something you should take serious.


I assume that he, like myself, has dealt with a good number of people who make even more extreme claims in perfect sincerity.

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Majority of those were put together based from events(not exact events) in 1953, and then thrown together in what our state of goverment would do now.


Society would be a better word for it. Most of these 'changes', when they occur, aren't done out of a political policy so much as out of a fear of liability. Blame our sue-happy society if you're going to blame anyone.

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I know for one thing, if you were caught with a small 10mg tyenol at my high school, you would be in jail, compared to maybe 20 years ago, you were asked to give it to the teacher, or the school nurse.


Depends on the school, I'm sure. Still, if a child were to overmedicate himself and get hurt, the school could be held responsible.

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Another event, to what you said was 'bollocks' was the fight. At my high school, fist fights normally ended up with the cops being called, and you being taken to the city jail, congratulations, you're going to spend the evening at the station.


At mine they ended up with a trip to the principal's office and a threat to call our parents if it ever happened again.

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And I can't comment on any others but the last one; yes, depending on your age, if your under 14, they will make you take the bus instead of walking to school. Due to 'children securities' is what our Principal called it.


Liability issues. I often encountered a similar situation at my school where we had to take school-transportation to events even if we lived right next to the place we were going. No one denied it was stupid as hell, but it was because the school could be held legally responsible if something were to happen.

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Edit; and Mega X, I thought you would know better? Surely you didn't go to a perfect high school, surely there was something that happened that you didn't think was handled very well, that was something so simple it could of easily been a misunderstanding?


Oooooooooh, buddy. You have no idea. Believe me, if anyone's going to try and create a picture-perfect image of my high school, it ain't gonna be me. I've referred to graduating as "getting out on parole" on more than one occasion.

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I know I was sent to an alternative school to get back into my grade when I was about 16, I got into a fight with my mother that morning which resulted in me crying, so my eyes were red. I went to the school, got searched, and the guy automatically assumed that I was on marijuana(which I've never done ever in my life, nor smoke). Resulted in my mother being called and having to talk/explain what happened to the schools intendant because he didn't take my word for it.


That sounds more like individual stupidity more than anything--on his part, I mean.



Edited by Mega X.exe on December 20, 2009 at 11:35:37.