Well, Bukkit took a kick to the privates today to say the least as EvilSeph and gang (TnT, etc.) are no longer going to be doing Bukkit updates/maintenance...
http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/bukkit-its-time-to-say.305106/

That said, Dinnerbone tweeted that he personally will be updating Bukkit to 1.8, so we should at least get to enjoy the additions that the next update brings. What concerns me is what happens after? At least being done "in-house" per se, we might see quicker turn-arounds as Evil made it sound like they didn't seem to be kept much in the know of changes, etc. to help them get Bukkit releases done. I just wonder what happens post 1.8, if the reigns get passed to somebody else or if Mojang slowly tries to phase it out in favor of just having folks use Realms. With the size of their player base I'm sure they wouldn't do something and most of the chatter going on about the changes is just a knee-jerk reaction seeing long-standing members of the team leaving.

Something that does concern me though is what potential impact this could have on great projects like Spigot (a CraftBukkit fork) and BungeeCord. I know Mojang's EULA hasn't really changed in several years, they've just recently decided to start waving it around. I understand their point of concern - angry parents wondering why their children had to pay $100 to play on a server for a game they already bought (dear God please don't let EA learn of this). I believe the base code is considered GPL, but what happens as Mojang continues to add hooks and other features that don't make it into the GPL codebase, essentially leaving themselves as the only one who can use them (similar to Microsoft using API calls in Office, etc. that only they know and aren't documented). Who knows, maybe Mojang will decide to acquire them too. MD_5 did note:

"Earlier today Bukkit announced they were shutting down, a decision quickly vetoed by Mojang, who have secretly owned the project for a number of years. In the face of this uncertainty we are not yet ready to make an official statement in what direction Spigot will be going, however please be assured that we are already prepared for a 1.8 release and intend to continue Spigot for many Minecraft versions to come, whatever circumstances may unfold."

Personally, I've never been a fan of Curse.com, hated them ever since they became a name in the early days of WoW. Trying to recall the specifics, but it involved their absorption/take over of another WoW-centric site that I loved. Will be curious if we are ever made privilege as to the extent of the contract between them and Mojang (who owns what, etc.). From what I understand, when Curse acquired the Bukkit team, they also gained control of the code-base which they then turned over to Mojang.

Time will tell...

Let the drama continue to roll.

Edited by kagato on August 22, 2014 at 19:01:16

Well, on the plus side the server has been semi-stable at least Mob spawning has been pretty wonky (even with only 3 or 4 folks on, nothing spawns even with near-perfect ticks) and I think we've either had a plug-in crash or issue with memory leaks as I believe the server has done a soft-reboot that past few mornings.

I was planning on typing a lot more last night but was too tired to type it out logically. In the short-term, I think this will be a good thing having Dinnerbone code monkey away on a 1.8 Bukkit release. Long-term, who's to say - I think everything will pretty much be speculation until some century when Mojang finally releases the fabled API, which I've heard will be 1.9, but not holding my breath for that.

*Le sigh* Mojang - Y u no have a good PR person/department to address this kind of thing?

Edited by kagato on September 4, 2014 at 21:01:58

https://twitter.com/LexManos/status/508198938629771264
"However, I have announced. 1) 1.8 Forge will support vanilla clients {details TBD} 2) If Bukkit dies, Forge will get a YUAL project"

Also, sk89q appears to be behind an all Forge world:
http://forum.enginehub.org/threads/bukkit-may-cease-to-exist-in-the-future.15684/

**Updated**
And thus was born Sponge:
http://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/2foll6/weve_gotten_together_developers_from_spout_forge/

Edited by kagato on September 7, 2014 at 5:44:43

You must be reading the billions of Reddit threads. Most the kids there are going to assume he's a jerk because his actions have the potential to impact their ability to play the game.

Honestly if I was that guy, I'd of done the same thing. Mojang's essentially gotten years of free work from him as he wasn't one of the original 4 who were brought on board when Bukkit "joined" Mojang back in Feb 2012. Neither Mojang or those Bukkit members ever revealed that Mojang effectively bought the Bukkit project. With a lot of folks, it isn't about the money, they just enjoy doing it to be an active contributor to the community. He's a pretty large contributor to the Bukkit project and I'd imagine it coming as a pretty large slap to the face to find out all the work you'd been doing was for a project owned by Mojang. Basically, rather than having to have one of their own employees actually do the work, they just let the external contributors fix the stuff.

It's a shame the whole point of the deal was for the Bukkit folks to help hammer out the API. Here we are 2.5 years later and there's still no light at the end of the tunnel. They keep saying additions are being added to the code all the time and that it'll happen with 1.9. Take that with a truckload of salt.

Edited by kagato on September 7, 2014 at 23:54:12

Yes. Yes it does. Especially when it comes to Searge. He posts quite a bit of non-MC stuff and it sucks having to follow him just to get MCP update URLs because gawd forbid they update their actual website with the info


I was thinking Jeb or Dinnerbone had mentioned it in a tweet sometime back but I'm not seeing it. I could be imagining things too - it's been known to happen

MD_5 tweeted this:


Looks like he might already be back on the road for Spigot relese:
http://www.spigotmc.org/threads/our-dmca-response.28772/page-36#post-325994[/i]

Edited by kagato on September 8, 2014 at 16:45:20

And MD_5's work-around is now live:
http://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-update-20140909a.29091/

I heart 1.8 so much they better get their arses in gear so I can start playing on the Slab again.

Edited by kagato on October 22, 2014 at 15:06:48