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x is more powerfull when he use any armor well thats all :cool:

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I\'ve always thought that X and Zero were about equally matched in strength. But I guess X would have the edge if he used an armor.

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I don\'t know I think Zero\'s pretty cool. I would say zero because hes well.....um.... Zero!


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Zero, because he was designed as the ultimate weapon.


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I depends. A the begginning, Zero, and at the end, X.


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Yeah, the two are equal, I agree with that. But X is better at long range while Zero is better with Close Range. X has the Armor, and Zero has his crazy Beam Sabre Skills.

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They are both equal really. I agree with AirMan really, I can\'t decide...
The game\'s are designed that way. Zero is always powerful and X is weak. Then, eventually, X catches up and bacomes more powerful that Zero. I don\'t really like him in MMX1 as his ego is bigger than his electronic brain.
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I mean, if he dosn\'t think of himself a lot, why would he say say something like that?


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Well, In the way that they were made, they are and forever will be equal. Wily stole the plans for X, using them to make Zero. Hence the likeness. This also means that their O/S is quite the same and so is their AI- the only thing different is the programming. And the fact that Zero has that sword and X has a buster. But that\'s besides the point.

So X gets some armour. Big deal. Zero has no need for it- he prefers to get by just on what he\'s got. X, on the other hand, needs it because The enemies he fights can be too much at times- Besides, It\'s good to have a little insurance.

I guess Light didn\'t know that Wily stole his plans, because he says that he doesn\'t know Zero\'s design plan. Odd.,,,I thought he would realise that by now....

Anyway, what I\'m saying is that no one is better, Zero just has experiance. X is unwilling to fight, Zero is all about the fray and the Melee. That\'s why Zero is a class SA and X is only a B rank.

I guess that should explain it.


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Anyway, what I\'m saying is that no one is better, Zero just has experiance. X is unwilling to fight, Zero is all about the fray and the Melee. That\'s why Zero is a class SA and X is only a B rank.


That\'s a good point. A person\'s attitude about fighting often affects how they fight. X and Zero have completely different attitudes towards combat. Zero lives for battle while X never really wanted to be a warrior.

X\'s feelings about fighting might cause him to refrain from using his full strength. He may even fear losing control if he ever did use his full power and X has witnessed the damage a powerful reploid raging out of control can cause.

Zero will never hold back against any oppenent. Even if he wants to hold back, the programming Wily used in him will not allow it. Not hitting an opponent with everything he has goes against Zero\'s nature.

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Besides, It\'s good to have a little insurance.


X\'s armors are basically Dr. Light\'s way of insuring that X can handle whatever comes his way whether he actually needs them or not.

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Zero was designed to be the ultimate weapon so I say Zero is the best.:rolleyes:


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Their power also depends on your preference.

Zero\'s sabre is initally stronger than X\'s buster at the bottom two charge levels, but charging takes time.

The weapons that zero gains increases his weapons strength which never runs out (with the exception of things like cyber peacock\'s weapon).

Comparing the two when X has armor is\'nt fair, because some armor gives X HUGE advantages (like almost infinite weapon energy)

Also depens on the enemy being fought:
X is good for one enemy at a time or enemies lined up conveniently, zero can use his spin-sword thingy to attack enemies while in the air from all directions.

The terrain makes a diff too. X\'s buster can travel through walls giving him an edge.

I prefer to use zero though, armour for X or not.


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I\'m gonna say Vile. He was cooler. :P


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I\'m gonna say Vile. He was cooler. :P
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Zero was designed to be the ultimate weapon so I say Zero is the best.:rolleyes:


True but Wily has made many of these \"ultimate weapons\" even Bass and King were supposed to be his best designs and don\'t forget Gamma who supposed to be the ultimate peace-keeping machine(funny how easily some peace-keeping machines can be turned into weapons of war).

I know Zero is supposedly responsible for killing everyone, then again he was inactive for until 21XX so I am assume that he ssutained some siginifigant damage. I don\'t see Wily just sealing away his ultimate for that long after taking out his worst nemesis and not using Zero to take over the world and if Zero hadn\'t been severely injurred I don\'t see him not continuing to kill people.

I have doubts since, with the possible exception of Zero vs the original Megaman, Wily\'s \"ultimate weapons\" have a pretty pathetic track record. Zero comes the closest to actually being such a weapon.

Dr. Light\'s creations tend to have a better track record for being unstoppable.

My personal belief is that at least from X2 to X5 X and Zero are pretty evenly matched since neither of them had really accessed thier full pontential yet.

The only real reason I may believe X is stronger are somethings Zero says in X6:
In Zero\'s ending:
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Mystery Scientist: ... I see. It\'ll take a while to get rid of this. Even with the latest technology, it\'s hard to succeed... I\'m not really sure if I can fix this completely...
Zero: Don\'t worry. I must do it before it\'s too late.
Mystery Scientist: But you haven\'t had any problems yet... You\'ll be fine as you are, won\'t you? It\'s none of my business, but what will we do in a crisis without you?
Zero: Ha. I\'m sorry, but don\'t worry... There\'s a superior Maverick Hunter. But I\'m scared that I may become a disturbing presence.


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Zero: X, you\'ve become stronger. Now you\'ll be fine on your own.
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Is there an ending where Zero is chopped in half and X is looking at him and they both have a laser straight through their chest? Here it is!

[Edited on 28/3/2003 by AirMan]


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Is there an ending where Zero is chopped in half and X is looking at him and they both have a laser straight through their chest?


Yes but that\'s in X5. It happens after you defeat sigma if Zero has not gone maverick. That scene is the begining for both of the good endings in the game. So regardless of which character you use to beat Sigma, Zero still winds up blown in half and then they both get shot when X goes to check on him.

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How does X recover? Mark it in a spoiler. I don\'t have the game and I probaly won\'t get it. I have nothing to ply it on so can you please tell me? (In a spoiler tag)


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[font=Comic Sans MS]X can repair via

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an auto repair systems in his body, just like Zero has....It just takes a bit of time. If they put this in the game, however, there would be no challenge.


Back on to the topic at hand, it really depends on the level of skill and expertise, I think. sometimes it doesn\'t matter how strong you are, but on the level of expertise you are at with the particular skill. Zero will be GREATER than X, but not more POWERFUL.

Hell, I still say they are equal.[/font]


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I thought that in X5

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X was revived by Dr. Light\'s hologram. If you let Zero go maverick Light also erases X\'s memories of Zero. But I do remember somewhere that X and Zero have an auto-repair system.

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[font=comic sans ms]Well, I don\'t remember anything about Light reactivating him in X5, but I do, however, remember that he erases all memories of Zero.

Actually, I have never seen X\'s Auto repair in work.....Zero claimed he had it in the first game, when he died....so, I suppose all reploids just are built with that ability.

Sigma seems to abuse it, though.[/font]

[Edited on 24-3-2003 by Phatman Dover]


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Zero is designed to be the ultimate wepond, but Zero was made to be stronger than the original Megaman. But then Dr. Light made MegamanX. So I think X is better...
And the auto repair system is a system that Megaman in Legends had. It doesnt really heal him...

[Edited on 28-3-2003 by Protoman]


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Zero is strange. This is where the two series\' begin to form together. Zero is also in 1 original game.


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[quote]Originally posted by Phatman Dover
[font=comic sans ms]Actually, I have never seen X\'s Auto repair in work.....Zero claimed he had it in the first game, when he died....so, I suppose all reploids just are built with that ability.

Sigma seems to abuse it, though.[/font]

[Edited on 24-3-2003 by Phatman Dover] [/quote]
Sigma doesn\'t need it, he just uses the virus to infect a reploid and replace its conciseness with his taking over its body. In fact Sigma tried to do that to X in X3, but depending on how you played either Zero or Dr. Doppler saved him. That brings up in interesting point: if Zero is supposedly stronger than X, why would Sigma attempt to take control of X instead of Zero? In his viral form Sigma is limited by physical barriers so he could have easily gone looking for Zero to infect him.

When you play the game Zero probably seems stronger since it requires a different fighting skills than X\'s to be successful and thus it\'s supposed to be more difficult to play as Zero. I\'ve also heard theories about how X\'s armors allow him to use his true strength safely since he may not be able to control those levels of power in his normal form. So supposedly the armor itself doesn\'t make him stronger but it makes it easier for him to access the true extent of his power.

But none of that matters because since no one has ever been able to measure X and Zero\'s maximum power level there is really no way of knowing for sure. This means that while both are powerful any statements about who is the strongest is just an opinion (unless it\'s an official statement by Capcom). When it comes to opinions however people often go with which character they like the best.

Ultimately however whoever is strongest depends upon the skill of the player. If you do better with one than the other you may percieve that one as being the strongest. If you can do equally well with both then you may not really percieve one as being better than the other.

Anyways I still think that X and Zero are evenly matched in strength.

[Edited on 28-3-2003 by CronoT2]

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But I think X is astronger. He only seems weaker as he is reluctant to fight. He hates violence. If he was infected, that inner hatred of violence wouldn\'t be there. He would be causing destruction everywhere but unlike Zero, he wouldn\'t be able to be brought under control. He would be unstoppable. That\'s the only reason why Zero appeares stronger. Zero don\'t have the same set-back as X as he was made by a cruel, heartless, belmy old man: Dr. Wily. And if you want to argue that they\'ve got they\'re own choice to feel how they like, you try living with a family that all believe the same thing and try to go against them.


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But I think X is astronger. He only seems weaker as he is reluctant to fight. He hates violence. If he was infected, that inner hatred of violence wouldn\'t be there. He would be causing destruction everywhere but unlike Zero, he wouldn\'t be able to be brought under control. He would be unstoppable. That\'s the only reason why Zero appeares stronger. Zero don\'t have the same set-back as X as he was made by a cruel, heartless, belmy old man: Dr. Wily. And if you want to argue that they\'ve got they\'re own choice to feel how they like, you try living with a family that all believe the same thing and try to go against them.


You\'re right about that. X most likely is stronger but holds back because of his attitude towards violence, X will never use anymore strength than necesary to bring down an oppenent. I believe x may even be afraid of what would happen if he ever did go all out against someone.

Zero goes all out no matter what and has no aversion to violence whatsoever, with the possible exception of Iris\'s death but he didn\'t even have that till after he killed her. Zero\'s very nature is to fight and kill and his programming will not let him escape that fact.

Actually the more I think about it Wily may have based Zero\'s power level off of what it would take to kill Megaman. Wily may not have known of X and even if Zero was based off of X\'s designs they may have been an earlier version that was not as powerful as the final design, also if Dr. Light had found out the plans were missing or copied he probably would gone ahead and made X even stronger than what he had originally planned.

I guess X is really the strongest of the two.

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Wow,I can\'t belive people think I\'m so strong...:D

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This is nonsense X and Zero are both equal but Zero is sort of weaker than X and he will be jealous of X.


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i say zero he has a sword so his weapon does better damage


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