Does life really have meaning? Or do we just give it that to make it seem justified?

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Does that mean that in our youth, the government, and our parents lied to us?

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Then send it in a PM. It\'s hard to offend me.

I hate to argue about religion, because it is such a touchy subject. Few people are ever willing to seriously change their opinion. While I hold strong to my religion. I don\'t believe I could persuade many of you to think likewise. I could ask you, but I doubt it would help.

I could TRY to force you, but half of you could cut my head off in half a second.:lol:

Anyways, just think about it. God is not our tyrant. he is our master. He could hurt us, but he doesn\'t because he is merciful.

He\'s not like us. We\'re not good. We would have destroyed us by now, just to show we were ticked.:lol:

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It can\'t hurt to believe in God though, because if you\'re right. We will just cease to exist anyways. But on the off chance that we are right, paradise.

God can see the heart. Doesn\'t work like that. And WindRider, don\'t you think it might possibly be, oh, I don\'t know, the truth? People lie sometimes, but do you really, really believe that the whole thing is a lie?

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Actually, you probably do. But it isn\'t.

[Edited on 19-11-2003 by MaceMan]

I\'m not saying I don\'t truly believe in him. I do, I\'m just saying that nothing really is at stake.

If you truly think about it if we do go to heaven what is our purpose on earth? That just means there is no need to live what-so-ever. Anything that we acompish here will never follow us there. You can\'t take what you can\'t bring with you.

I mean if religion isn\'t based on the life that is infront of us right now at this moment why would that help us beyond life, beyond death.

I\'m glad though, that I got to come to earth. It\'s been fun.

The point of being on Earth is to develop as people.

Why can\'t we develop in heaven or hell, if there is such a thing? Another thing is that if you go to hell why can\'t you go back to heaven? I mean if you made a mistake just once in your life does that reall mean you deserve to suffer for all eternity

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According to the bible, the world was a place to exist in until Adam and Eve sinned. Thus, the earth became a very large test. God cannot be in the presence of imperfection, of sinners. Thus, we sin, we go to hell. Then there was Jesus who came to earth, never sinned, and died for ours. If we believe, in the eyes of God our \"flaws\" are non-existant.

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But what about the people who don\'t believe in the Christian God but another god or no god at all? What if they commit no sins? Do they still go to hell?

It is impossible to not sin, even thinking about it is sinful, and unless you believe Jesus, the son died for you sins, you\'ll go to hell.


That\'s the Christian Religion (my religion)

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My dad and I always had a seemingly unanswerable question: What happens to those not exposed to Christ? It\'s not their fault, they\'ve just never heard of him.

And we do deserve to suffer for that mistake if we do not repent for it. God forgives you IF YOU ASK FOR FORGIVNESS.

If not, you have shunned God. You have inderectly or even directly placed yourself in a nonexistant higher position than God, which just won\'t work.

God is just, and if someone never heard of him, then he would give a just decision whether they go to heaven or not.

But what if there is someone who doesn\'t believe in god? Like a Muslim or a Buddist? Muslims make up 25% of the world right now and their numbers are growing rapidly. Christians make up 33% of the world. Does that mean that only 1 out of 3 people will go to heaven? That seems unfair. Also is god is just why does it matter what religion we practice? What if there really is a god but none of the religions have been right so far?

muslims and buddists and those people with the dots on ther head are going to hell. just like windrider and everyone else who doesnt beleeve.

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For one thing, what is popular isn\'t always right, what is right isn\'t always popular. Just because those religions have more people doesn\'t make them right.

And for another thing, God isn\'t unprovable. In Jesus time, there were quite a few things that happened that prove it. There are also things today, just not quite as obvious to everyone.

WindRider, you are very fearless, but fear isn\'t always a bad thing if you know how to handle it. Don\'t you want the best for yourself?

Jet, what you are doing is judging. God is the only fair judge, he doesn\'t need little people going around saying, \"Oh, you are a bad person, see ya. Oh you are a bad person, too bad.\" It just doesn\'t work like that.

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And God gave the best way out for all of this. All you have to do is believe. Is that too much to ask of you? To believe in the son of the Lord who created you and loves you?

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What if there is no god and the right religion is something else? Do you think it would be fair to just die like that. I would think not.

Also that is very offencive toward me because I am a Buddhist. Not the kind with Buddha as god but as Buddha being nothing but a mortal man who was a teacher, not a god.
Edit:And the \"people with the red dots\" are Hindus. Such ignorance is sad to see even in youth (yes I know that I am young too).

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You have to believe that Jesus died for your sins. Him coming down to die for us, and us going to heaven without believing him, is that fair to him?

If there is no God, then we are no worse off anyways.

All religions are based on good works (Christianity is about a relationship with God, not a religion). This is impossible since humans are imperfect, and have imperfect works. In Christianity, the only rule is to believe in Jesus, nothing else attached.

I don\'t want to disvalue any religion, but they just don\'t work.

Yes, but Jesus (son of God) died for our sins, which made us imperfect, thus fixing our relationship with God. The catch? You have to believe that he did so.

EDIT: It\'s people like Jet, who give christianity a bad name.

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Myself, I am an aetheist, so I guess you can say \"I have shunned god.\" If by some chance I am wrong, I would rather choose hell than ask for forgiveness. There is no way I\'ll ever ask for forgiveness for the way I decide to live my life. I\'m sure there are other non-christians who feel the same way.



Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste
I’ve been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man’s soul and faith
And I was ’round when jesus christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game...

Sorry, I just like that song.

Anyways.

Religion is a touchy subject. While most people don\'t want to hear it, I think any stance on religion is wrong, there is no perfect stance on the issue. However, I really don\'t think religion was formed to get you somewhere good after you die. Religion installs moral values, which can help someone be a good person; I believe that is the purpose of the religion. In cases like that, religion isn\'t a bad thing. But when people take it too far like many do.. well, I\'ll leave it up to your imagination where I\'d go with that. =P

Any and all of you are welcome to disagree with me and say I\'m wrong. I wouldn\'t expect anyone else to believe what I do, and I\'d hope others would have the courtesy to do the same in return.

[quote]Originally posted by Mega X.exe
Yes, but Jesus (son of God) died for our sins, which made us imperfect, thus fixing our relationship with God. The catch? You have to believe that he did so.

EDIT: It\'s people like Jet, who give christianity a bad name.

[Edited on 11/21/2003 by Mega X.exe] [/quote]
The only thing I am asking is what if we don\'t believe? What if we believe in another religion? Does that simply just condemn us to hell? Just because of that one belief. I am not saying that there is not God but if there was woundn\'t he forgive us for not knowing which religion was \"correct\"? For we are all just humans and as you said Mega, we are imperfect.