Maceman gave me the idea

So er...yeah! Who wants to get the ball rolling?

[font=comic sans ms]Aw, Mega X, you beat me to it. T_T

Oh well....

Let\'s see, here...Oh I know! God is always a good starter. Is God really up there or not? Does anyone want to believe that there is some sort of puppet master controlling every aspect of your life? If so, why? If not, why?

....That should get people going...[/font]

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[quote]Originally posted by Phatman Dover
[font=comic sans ms]Aw, Mega X, you beat me to it. T_T

Oh well....

Let\'s see, here...Oh I know! God is always a good starter. Is God really up there or not? Does anyone want to believe that there is some sort of puppet master controlling every aspect of your life? If so, why? If not, why?

....That should get people going...[/font] [/quote]

I believe that God is there, just not as a puppet master. He lets us have or own free will.

To WindRider~: If life was just our imagination and we are dreaming, then what are we? I know what a dream is, and life isn\'t a dream.

[quote]Originally posted by MaceMan
[quote]Originally posted by Phatman Dover
[font=comic sans ms]Aw, Mega X, you beat me to it. T_T

Oh well....

Let\'s see, here...Oh I know! God is always a good starter. Is God really up there or not? Does anyone want to believe that there is some sort of puppet master controlling every aspect of your life? If so, why? If not, why?

....That should get people going...[/font] [/quote]

I believe that God is there, just not as a puppet master. He lets us have or own free will.

To WindRider~: If life was just our imagination and we are dreaming, then what are we? I know what a dream is, and life isn\'t a dream. [/quote]We are mind organisms of dreams and imagination but our spesial Chromosone DNA can give us the ability to feel.I\'m not kidding,mind organisms do have feeling.

Could you explain that again?

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You think that we make up things like heaven so we aren\'t as scared of dying?

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[font=comic sans ms]Oh yeah, I did. Mostly my sentiments exactly.

Then again, there are so many things we do not understand in the universe. So many stars, formations, planets, possibly other universes....

Everything we have is based upon a theory- Math, English, Science, etc. They all help \"explain things\" but they really are just beating round the bush, metaphorically speaking.

Whatever, right? My attitude towards all this- I say when I die, I die and that\'s all I have to really worry about. *sips DP*[/font]

EEEEEErrrrrrrrrrr........Yes,I did.And actually I can explain.I didn\'t make this without a closer look.

[quote]Originally posted by Phatman Dover
[font=comic sans ms]Aw, Mega X, you beat me to it. T_T

Oh well....

Let\'s see, here...Oh I know! God is always a good starter. Is God really up there or not? Does anyone want to believe that there is some sort of puppet master controlling every aspect of your life? If so, why? If not, why?

....That should get people going...[/font] [/quote]he is up there and is no puppet master but he knows what will happen(think peter and the rooster crowwing three times part of the bible)

[font=Impact]If religion offends anyone present, do not read my reply.[/font]

I believe there is a God and a Heaven. I grew up in a Christian family, and stick to those values.
I do not believe in the theory of evolution. How could everything just \'happen\' to appear that way? It doesn\'t make sense. People who look at such an aspect scientifically are living their lives by probabilities, when there is really only two ways to go: 100% or 0%.

That\'s what I think.

Also, I believe that nobody is perfect. To become perfect is to be godly, and God is the POWER and the GLORY. To share that right is not right.

Also, I don\'t believe in ghosts. Such is an afterlife defying heaven. If God sends ghosts (such as the Holy Ghost) then they are real. The others are just people\'s imaginations spawned in images of chasing fame or a link to the afterlife. Do not chase the afterlife, enjoy your life on Earth. But enjoy in a way that you can enjoy your life off of earth.

Windrider, you of all people should know of dreams and pain. Pain stops dreams, good or bad. Could life be a dream? Every man who dies is just waking up? Life is on earth and life is beyond earth, not in the stars, but beyond them.

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BTW, According to the Bible, God is the Holy ghost.

If there is no such things as ghosts, then what inhabit heaven?

Your theory, there is full of holes.

I think that someone put minute simplistic viral anatomies on the earth, on day, long ago. They mutated over millions of years. They all mutated slightly differently until they were no longer viral. They were living! They did the one thig that viruses don\'t do which makes them non-living -- reproduce...and respire, come to think of it...never mind anyway, eventually there were many different creatures and to this day many are still evolving, yet the basic, unevolved creatures still live. They all evolve over time to adapt to their surroundings and things, and always will do...

BTW, you should notice the difference between \'evolve\' and \'mutate\'. Mutate is where the change happens to a single being or creature. Evolution is where the change happens over a long time and each child born is changed slightly more than the last.

I agree with Heatman.

To Airman: People after they have died, and angels. When he said he doesn\'t believe in ghosts, he meant spirits walking around on Earth. And God is the Holy Spirit, but he also sent him. Just like Jesus is God, but he is also his son. It\'s sort of a one in all, all in one thing. Do you know the story of St. Patrick and the clover?

...no.

Basically, St. Patrick explained the three with a clover. They were one thing, but they were three leaves.

One being with three parts: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.



If you are interested, I\'ll type up the book of Genisis and post it here.

If God didn\'t make us, who did? A puddle of mud and a bunch of micro-organisms, just purely out of chance?

If there is no heaven nor hell, do we become ghosts? Of course not. There is no spirit world. There is only one\'s own identity. You do not have a spirit you have an identity. And no, I don\'t mean your name. I mean YOU. Yu Yu Hakasho is a fun show to watch, but I don\'t want anyone to live in that reality.

In short, if there is no heaven, and there is no hell, what is this? A false world, where we please ourselves for no reason. What would pleasure of the past or present even amount to? It would all be meaningless, cause there would be no objective. Life would have no reson to exist. Existance would have no reson to exist.

This is why I believe in heaven. Likewise, I fear the reality of hell.

Airman, a ghost is not necessarily a floating bedsheet at Halloween, or a AI controlled Thing you have to pick up an Ectoplasmic powerup to shoot, or a frigment of our imagination. You are thinking of a specter. A ghost, by definition, is the spirit of a being that has died. However, because people die and are \"reborn\" in heaven, they are not ghosts, they are angels.

I know that evolution is a real term, and can be scientifically proven. The [font=Impact]Theory of Evolution[/font], that all living beings came from some puddle, is what I disagree with.

I see no point to argue. We exist, don\'t question why or how it came to be just except it. You can spend all your life searching for some thing and never find it.

Average q.:What IS the meaning of life?Half the world fights,half of the world lives in hippy paradice.What is our \"destiny\" if we have one?And after we discover this,if we do,what will ahppen?Brain buster.

[font=comic sans ms]The meaning of life is what you make it out to be- I personally think it is making a good impression on the world, whereas my mother thinks it is getting into heaven, and so forth, and my brother thinks it is merely completing the tasks set before you before you shuffle off this mortal coil.

So, everyone has their own personal meaning of life; therefore, the question may be the same, but everyone has different answers.

Our destiny, if discovered, would not divert from its original path. There are some finite things in time that cannot be avoided no matter how hard you try. If we all knew our destiny, actually, the world would be a much better place than the virtual hellish apparation it apears as now.

Fate is what you make of it. As the quote form that Terminator movie goes: \"There is not fate but what we make for ourselves.\"[/font]

Take Neo, He knows his destiny is to kill Smith, and destroy the Matrix. Does that change it at all? No!

Honestly, I think the whole God thing is only believed by the children who are taught to believe. I went to church when I was little, yes. But I never really thought there was some overlord watching us. Sounded too videogamey to me.

I don\'t really agree or disagree with religions. I disagree with many of the followers of said religions because they disgust me, but otherwise I\'m okay with it all. If people knew how to handle their faith, and their religion..maybe I\'d have more respect for them. I\'m quite openminded though, and listen to all theories. From evolution to reincarnation.

I do admit I\'d rather go to hell if such a thing exists though. Too many nutcases in heaven. If you die and meet God..well, I\'d say I believe in him since he\'s there infront of me, but I\'d ask to go to hell. XD

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[font=comic sans ms]The meaning of life is what you make it out to be....whereas my mother thinks it is getting into heaven,
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I aggree with you Phatman, but what I think it is is to live. That\'s all the scense I can make.
And if what your mother say\'s is correct wouldn\'t \"god\" put us all in heaven right away? And she can\'t say anything about worthyness because acording to the bible we are all equal in his eyes! In fact call her in to read this!

\"If Batman died, would the Joker be happy?\"
~FoxTrot~

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In the end its not heaven versus hell, it all just comes down to you-Elizabeth Hurley quote from Bedazzled

Actually, people won\'t become angels, they\'ll just get a new kind of body that doesn\'t get hurt or the bad things that happen to our current bodies. Angels are spritual beings that God made, not dead people who go to heaven.