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OK, this is always something I\'ve wondered...
Every day, I log on to the message board, and someone has beaten a game I never could without dying, losing characters, missing a heartpiece or secret character or battle chip...
I wonder how many people can truthfully answer without embarresing themselves: What are your cheating policies?
Do you look on cheat sites or gamefaqs or player\'s guides, just so you can log onto a message board and brag about hollow victory? Look at faqs and walkthroughs just so you can answer a person on the board\'s questions and seem smart?
I am just feeling self concious. It takes me half a year to beat a game if I try my very hardest. Then I log onto the board and someone says \"I beat Fire Emblem for my first try on the second day I got it\"? Do these people not have lives, or do they use cheats and walkthroughs just to log on and brag?
I believe it\'s alright to use codes. Codes are what I have defined as \"any cheat you can use that in no way helps you beat a game\". This would be any color changing code, or glitches that don\'t affect gameplay.
Cheats are codes that you use to \"skip levels\", \"gain invulnerability\", \"get all of X\'s armor pieces on X6\"... etc. I get really sickened whenever people brag about beating a game, and then casually laugh and mention \"CheatPlanet\" or \"GameFaqs\". It makes me feel like an idiot, because I know some people online are doing the same thing, and whispering under there breath!
Cheats are fine by me if you
1-Don\'t brag about beating a game with them
2-Use them AFTER you beat a game
3-Can\'t actually complete a collection \"Pokemon, Yugioh cards, whatever\" in the game without it.
4-Use them in multiplayer mode.

I don\'t mean to offend anyone, seeing as some of you are definately really hardcore vet gamers who put time into what you do. I don\'t know if you guys\'ll answer me truthfully or not. But how do you feel about cheats and codes?


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I don\'t tend to do that because if I skipped levels with cheat coads, I\'d be wasting my money in buying the game in the first place.

The coads I tend to use are mostly in Star Wars Rogue Squadren II: Rogue Leader and they\'re like \'Play as Naboo Starfighter\' which is cool or \'Play as Tie Fighter\' totally pointless because of the lack of decent shields.

Anyhow, if I need help, I look at an FAQ for help. However, it isn\'t my first choice. I prefere to go to http://www.uhs-hints.com/hints. They just give little hints starting with a question. I try not to brag about it. If someone asks for help, I tell them, though, as someone else before me. Not to make me look smart, but for the advantage of the person asking.

[Edited on 30-12-2003 by AirMan]


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I have rather harsh feelings to those who use game enhancing and cheat devices. But, there are circumstances when my principles do not hold true. As Heatman.EXE stated, I do believe that cheat codes and the like are quite okay to obtain things in the game one would not be able to see, do, or obtain any other way. As Heatman also stated, they are okay to use after the player completes the game. However, I\'ll have have to disagree with you on using codes in multiplayer mode. I feel it not fair that while some of two/three/four/ players has tried hard to progress and gain strength without the use of such things, one of them is simply using a cheat device topick his oppenents off.

Lastly, it all depends on circumstance. For example, say you accidently threw away a required mission item in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Would you consider using a Gameshark to get it back horrible cheating? Now look at getting infinite lives, using your device for near omnipotent means, unrestricted whatsoever; It depends on circumstance.

Well, thank you for reading. I myself do not use such cheat devices, and I tend to only look at a FAQ for ways to improve on strategy and such things to improve my effectiveness (after beating the game), and when I am in utterly dire need of one, being stuck at some point in a game.

[Edited on 30-12-2003 by Zaleon]


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Me? I love cheats. You know something? Wouldn\'t it also be a waste of money for the game if you couldn\'t beat it? I couldn\'t beat Megaman Legand\'s 2nd version of the final boss, so I got a gameshark. Ever since then, I\'ve been hooked to Gamesharks/CodeBreakers/Action Replays.


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I only cheat on ROM\'s wich I am writing a review about, so that I can go through the game quickly, wich ables me to write about it with a good idea of it. Or, if there\'s a flaw in the ROM, like in Terranigma, I didn\'t get the Giant Leave item, so I had to use a PARcode to obtain it. But I don\'t cheat in other circumstances, except for if there\'s something like the Bass battle chip in MMBN1. Strangely enough, after the appearance of MMB1, there were no other MMBN\'s in the Netherlands, so I don\'t really know anything about the rest of them. But that\'s off topic, so I\'ll stop about that. Anyway, I think cheating s*cks, except for when it\'s neccisary or when you\'re just reviewing th game.


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With the help of my brother, we got through Mario Kart Double Dash in like, two days. It\'s not that we spent 48 hours playing it, either, it\'s just that we\'re good at Mario Kart. :P

And that\'s how it is. Say with like, FF7, I killed the two or so last bosses without even trying. But I had a tough time with FF8\'s last bosses. It just depends on the game.

I do use cheat codes, but only ones implemented in the game. Like password cheats and so forth. Who cares if people use cheats in the first place? It\'s not like we\'re running for president, cheating on women on the side. :lol:

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Ok, I must admit, I have used Cheats in my day. However, I have only used them in:
1. impossible to beat situations (based on current skill)
2. After I\'ve beaten the game (to add spice to gameplay)

I agree with you Heatman, when I say that Cheats are a little bit unethical, unless you\'ve already beaten the game without them.

While I frown upon cheating, I do not stand against those who do cheat. You are perfectly free to do what you wish whenever you wish on a Video Game, and have mercy on me for ever trying to say otherwise.


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I use cheats when:I beat the game,for fun.I am on a level I have worked on for at least 2 days(Curse Megaman Zero 2.lol)
Or to unlock secret stuff.(Like Megaman Zero forms or crud stuff like that.Like stuff you can HAVE but don\'t NEED).I dunno if I can be considered a cheat or not.You judge.:P
PS:I DON\'T use gameshark or stuff like that either.Oh,and about the forms thing....only after I beat the game.I figured the ones I have by mysellf.

[Edited on 31/12/2003 by Saito Hikari]

[Edited on 31/12/2003 by Saito Hikari]

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I use them if I can\'t win :P and I use FAQs frequently. Although, you\'ll notice I don\'t brag, and I use gained knowledge for helpfulness

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[quote]Originally posted by Zaleon
Lastly, it all depends on circumstance. For example, say you accidently threw away a required mission item in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Would you consider using a Gameshark to get it back horrible cheating? Now look at getting infinite lives, using your device for near omnipotent means, unrestricted whatsoever; It depends on circumstance.

[Edited on 30-12-2003 by Zaleon] [/quote]
I feel like there\'s a judge from FFTA standing over my shoulder all the time. For me, playing video games is a subject of honor sometimes. In multiplayer games I tone it down for my little cousins sometimes, and if there\'s a secret weapon (or Mobile Suit :cry:) in a game, I always beat the whole game and waste days trying to find a way to get it before I consider trying to find it on cheat sites. Honestly, I\'ve lost some missions with important mission items before (I mean, not just Jerky), but I keep on playing unless it simply puts me in no capable game-beating position.
And as for multiplayers, I mean cheats that benifit ALL players. I\'d never take advantage of another first-timer\'s ignorance and set invicibility or anything on. (If my opponent does, I can always tell!)


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[font=comic sans ms]This is one of the most controvesial things in gaming...

I personally only use cheats when:


  • I beat the game
  • I\'m stuck and cannot go further
  • It gets so hard its not fun anymore


Basically I only use them when I want to have a bit of fun or when I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. I\'m not agianst cheating, but I do frown upon it. Then again, there are those people who buy games and use cheats so they can have a nice story to read/experiance. People such as college students, you know?

*shrugs* I\'m not pro-cheat, not anti-cheat, just...in the middle. I don\'t usually favour sides anyways.[/font]


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Wow, it seems like nobody likes cheats but me. I basically (sp?) love them. Hmm... is someone here lying? Well, anyways, your mouths would drop if you came to my house. I have like 100 codes for almost all my games. I mostly make them all, though. My longest code lines I ever did (On my CodeBreaker) was about 35 lines. So I guess you would never play a VS. game with me. Oh well, I like my life and the codes I make.


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hey, what you do in a video game is YOUR business, and noone can tell you otherwise.


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