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Judge: \"Court is in session. Hiro you\'ve been accused of obsessing over Rock and Roll\'s Relationship and a personal desire for her to be real. State your case.\"

Me: The evidence, Your honor.(Beylif takes evidence and hands to judge)
As you can see, Rockman Dash or translated means Rockman spinoff. In this \"spinoff\" version, the only relation between Megaman and Roll is friends here is another piece of evidence. In Roll\'s diary, under the title \"Secret\", It clearly states that Roll loves him, therefore it would be societically unacceptable if they dated. That\'s My case, Your Honor.

(Now it\'s your turn. Respond in favor of me, or in favor of the prosecution.)

P.S. This an admiralty court meaning there\'s no jury just a judge deciding my case. I challenge you Dr. Cossack to judge this case fairly and honestly.
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I sentence you to 5 years in Capcom prison for having an unhealthy level of otakuness. (jk)

So... you just have a diary entry as proof? ... Well, that gotta be the laziest research I ever seen. Go back and play the game more. Both of them. There are much more evidence out there. Leave no stone unturned, no Servbot unquestioned, and drink as much of that coke machine sodas that you can drink!

... Got carried away there. ;^^

They aren\'t related by blood so their relationship is okay with me.

Don\'t we have a topic of this, I\'m sure...

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Oh boy. How many times do I have to say this?

..well...better get out the old \'clicker mouse\'....

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Just stop. Let\'s take a second, and think about what we\'re arguing about.

We\'re [you\'re] arguing about Two Beings *one being a robot* hooking up in a VIDEO GAME!!!! It makes no sense...why the heck do you care who MM is gonna hook up with? Ultimately, it\'s left up to Capcom, and as if you could do anything about it. The fact that you waste time worrying about whether or not a fictional robotic character is gonna hook up with a fictional human character is not only stupid, it\'s mind boggling. You obviously have no life whatsoever if you have time to come up with such ludicrous. How many different topics have shown up about who Megaman LIkes and who he doens\'t like and who he\'s into???? Half of which, were all made by the same person...and then, the one time that everyone shuts up about it, Hiro COMES ALONG AND RESTARTS IT!!! For Cripe\'s sake, give it a rest!!! NO ONE CARES!!!

THE FACT THAT YOU COME UP WITH CRAP LIKE THIS APPALLS ME!!!



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Read that why doncha.


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Robots are artificial life, so are Roll and Tron. They\'re carbons remember?

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Carbons are \"carbon based lifeforms\" (humans). It\'s fair to make dating stories because they aren\'t in fact robots in the legend stories. There is various other proof throughout the games that he\'s correct. For instance, you gather various gifts throughout the first game that you can collect. Of course, gathering gifts is no sure sign, but it is an abnormal amount of gifts to gather out of merely kindness/sibling love. Also, Tron\'s jealousy during the CrabBot III\'s battle would not make sense, as Tron obviously is not partial to becoming Megaman\'s sister... Of course, there are the walk-ins (everyone knows about those), and there were several other times. I don\'t see why we have to be so stubborn about this. Just because Roll is Megaman\'s sister in the first game should not lead us to conclude that it is the same way in the Legends series. Also, Megaman is not specifically a robot, he is a \"Trigger\", among many other things. Becuase he is an unknown species, it is hard to tell whether or not it is acceptable for him to like her. Overall, I am in favor of Hiro\'s opinion. I believe we have enough evidence to overrule the adoption thing.

I still like Tron better though.:D

Also, hooking up characters in a video game is no different than hooking up a character in a book or romance novel. They are frigments of our imagination too, right? Yet, they were fictional characters created of the same minds, so they may be hooked up just as easily as video game characters...

[Edited on 8-1-2004 by AimMan v2.5]


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Somebody has to defend Hiro... I mean, other then just AimMan...
*clears throat*
To Keiyoushi:
Throughout the games, with MML\'s gift-giving, walk-in scenes, constant secret love confessions, it\'s become obvious to me that Capcom WANTS us to decide who he hooks up with. We obsess over this because we are obsessed with Megaman Legends, just the way others OBSESS with over Zero\'s human qualities or Protoman being related to him, in offense or defence. We have to right to opinionize.

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To Mega X.EXE:
What AimMan said. \"Carbons\" not being living beings, how much have you played this game?It is a SPINOFF of Megaman, not the OG or X series! I think all this talk of Reploids on this board has you thinking everyone\'s a robot.
To Breakman:
You\'re right, more evidence is needed. Erm... the gift-giving process seems more than brotherly to me, and... if she is related to Megaman, Tron sure doesn\'t realize it!:lol:
Good enough?
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\"I will shed some light on this corrupt city!\" -Michael Zaebok
Oh and to Hiro:
Yes, you are an obsessed fan. Which is fine by me, but it\'s true. :D

[Edited on 8-1-2004 by Heatman.EXE]


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Saturdays: The day Protoman comes over. He doesn't do or need anything, but Roll insists Rock to sit down and talk to him. So commences the 12-hour awkward silence treatment until Protoman disappears when everybody's back is turned.

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[quote]Originally posted by AimMan v2.5
Carbons are \"carbon based lifeforms\" (humans). It\'s fair to make dating stories because they aren\'t in fact robots in the legend stories. There is various other proof throughout the games that he\'s correct. For instance, you gather various gifts throughout the first game that you can collect. Of course, gathering gifts is no sure sign, but it is an abnormal amount of gifts to gather out of merely kindness/sibling love. Also, Tron\'s jealousy during the CrabBot III\'s battle would not make sense, as Tron obviously is not partial to becoming Megaman\'s sister... Of course, there are the walk-ins (everyone knows about those), and there were several other times. I don\'t see why we have to be so stubborn about this. Just because Roll is Megaman\'s sister in the first game should not lead us to conclude that it is the same way in the Legends series. Also, Megaman is not specifically a robot, he is a \"Trigger\", among many other things. Becuase he is an unknown species, it is hard to tell whether or not it is acceptable for him to like her. Overall, I am in favor of Hiro\'s opinion. I believe we have enough evidence to overrule the adoption thing.

I still like Tron better though.:D

Also, hooking up characters in a video game is no different than hooking up a character in a book or romance novel. They are frigments of our imagination too, right? Yet, they were fictional characters created of the same minds, so they may be hooked up just as easily as video game characters...

[Edited on 8-1-2004 by AimMan v2.5] [/quote]

Wrong, though Carbons are similar, they were \"created\" by the last of the humans to keep the planet alive until they were ready to re-populate. The Master in Elysium was the last human and he died so...

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Carbons are carbon based lifeforms. Reaverbots were created (for a mysterious purpose by a mysterious person), with some knowledge of \"carbons\" in mind. The reason most people believe the character must all be robots is because they are able to be reintialized, and appear so intertwined with the Reaverbots that we think them to be robots (as similar to reaverbots). The \"carbon reinitialization program\" that Juno (and possibly others) mentioned refers to a procedure programmed into Juno that was meant to be used if Megaman Trigger were to be deluded by humans, or otherwise corrupted. This procedure would supposedly wipe carbon-based lifeforms off of the face of Terra, through some means. Much is still unknown about Reaverbots, and such, of course, is all the more reason for the sequel. Not every main character in every Megaman series HAS to be a robot. Capcom does make differences between series.

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by AimMan v2.5]


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All I\'m saying, is that Carbons are not humans as they were not born using the Human reproductive system (seminar at 11:00 :P) they were grown. As such they are almost human, but more like Robots since they are created by man, but should be treated as an equal yet different species.

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[quote]Originally posted by Heatman.EXE
Somebody has to defend Hiro... I mean, other then just AimMan...
*clears throat*
To Keiyoushi:
Throughout the games, with MML\'s gift-giving, walk-in scenes, constant secret love confessions, it\'s become obvious to me that Capcom WANTS us to decide who he hooks up with. We obsess over this because we are obsessed with Megaman Legends, just the way others OBSESS with over Zero\'s human qualities or Protoman being related to him, in offense or defence. We have to right to opinionize.

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To Mega X.EXE:
What AimMan said. \"Carbons\" not being living beings, how much have you played this game?It is a SPINOFF of Megaman, not the OG or X series! I think all this talk of Reploids on this board has you thinking everyone\'s a robot.
To Breakman:
You\'re right, more evidence is needed. Erm... the gift-giving process seems more than brotherly to me, and... if she is related to Megaman, Tron sure doesn\'t realize it!:lol:
Good enough?
To you all:
You are wonderful debate partners!
\"I will shed some light on this corrupt city!\" -Michael Zaebok
Oh and to Hiro:
Yes, you are an obsessed fan. Which is fine by me, but it\'s true. :D

[Edited on 8-1-2004 by Heatman.EXE] [/quote]

I never said they weren\'t living

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[quote]Originally posted by Mega X.exe
[quote]Originally posted by Heatman.EXE
Somebody has to defend Hiro... I mean, other then just AimMan...
*clears throat*
To Keiyoushi:
Throughout the games, with MML\'s gift-giving, walk-in scenes, constant secret love confessions, it\'s become obvious to me that Capcom WANTS us to decide who he hooks up with. We obsess over this because we are obsessed with Megaman Legends, just the way others OBSESS with over Zero\'s human qualities or Protoman being related to him, in offense or defence. We have to right to opinionize.

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To Mega X.EXE:
What AimMan said. \"Carbons\" not being living beings, how much have you played this game?It is a SPINOFF of Megaman, not the OG or X series! I think all this talk of Reploids on this board has you thinking everyone\'s a robot.
To Breakman:
You\'re right, more evidence is needed. Erm... the gift-giving process seems more than brotherly to me, and... if she is related to Megaman, Tron sure doesn\'t realize it!:lol:
Good enough?
To you all:
You are wonderful debate partners!
\"I will shed some light on this corrupt city!\" -Michael Zaebok
Oh and to Hiro:
Yes, you are an obsessed fan. Which is fine by me, but it\'s true. :D

[Edited on 8-1-2004 by Heatman.EXE] [/quote]

I never said they weren\'t living [/quote]
Living, breathing humans.
Cold (not neccesarily), lifeless robots.
Get it?


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Saturdays: The day Protoman comes over. He doesn't do or need anything, but Roll insists Rock to sit down and talk to him. So commences the 12-hour awkward silence treatment until Protoman disappears when everybody's back is turned.

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Nor did I say they were robots

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Nor did I say they were robots

Are you saying they\'re plants...?
You\'re going Big O philosophy on me.
Tron and Roll are normal human beings. They were not grown, only Megaman, Juno, and all the dark-skinned green-haired people of MML2 were.
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Roll may be, because of her mother Matilda\'s knowledge of Reaverbots,
, but I\'m certain Tron is not!


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Saturdays: The day Protoman comes over. He doesn't do or need anything, but Roll insists Rock to sit down and talk to him. So commences the 12-hour awkward silence treatment until Protoman disappears when everybody's back is turned.

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None of the people on Terra are human. Humans left, and left Artficial Humans, that were not born the natural way called \"Carbons\" to take care of the planet. In MML2, the last of the humans died. So they are like Organic Andriods in a way

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None of the people on Terra are human. Humans left, and left Artficial Humans, that were not born the natural way called \"Carbons\" to take care of the planet. In MML2, the last of the humans died. So they are like Organic Andriods in a way

Where on Terra do you get, \"in MML2, the last of the humans died\"?!


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Saturdays: The day Protoman comes over. He doesn't do or need anything, but Roll insists Rock to sit down and talk to him. So commences the 12-hour awkward silence treatment until Protoman disappears when everybody's back is turned.

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The Master in Elysium died. He was the last of the humans.

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When and where did we learn that humans ever left Terra? In a book, and several other resources throughout the game, we learn that most world is submereged in water, and most of the land mass has been corrupted. Therefore, people populate islands and airships/stations. But how do we know that humans ever left Terra? And where are you drawing the information that the characters were ever even called carbons (just curious)?


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I read it in an MML2 Script. The one on GameFAQs

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...your opinion is your opinion. I was just taking a liberty at voicing mine BTW.


Furthermore, I rather agree with Mega X.exe on this one, because the last of the humans DID die, and the CARBONS were left. Don\'t get mre wrong...more humans could be dwelling beneath the surface, but the humans that inhabited the land are long gone....in fact...any humans underground or in the sea are probably gone, because remember the sub gate cities in MML1? They were all empty and crawling with reaver bots. Moving on, the Carbons were put there. Juno and Sera both babbly about how they carbons have gotten out of hand, leading to the theory that the Carbons were left there to take care of the planet.

Annnd...Megaman Trigger is one of those...I forgot...um..blocker was it? Umm...anyway, he\'s a support robot. The carbon reinitialization program had nothing to do with his behavior. At least...I don\'t think it did. I think it was a fail-safe in case things got out of hand.

Furthermore, Roll, Barrell, Tron...EVERYONE are carbons. Except Megaman. There ya go.

Anyway, about my little quotation that I\'ve been dropping for every \'Megaman and Roll\' topic, I made that because...well...I thought they he/she may have had better things to do rather than obsess over fictional characters getting it on.

As for what\'s going to happen in MML3...[if there is one], I\'m pretty sure that Capcom is probably going to develop Megaman and Roll and Trons love triangle.


Annnd....Heatman.exe...you\'re right. Capcom probably DOES want us to insenuate things about Megaman and Roll. I just never looked at it in that light.


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[quote]Originally posted by Keiyoushi_Naota
...your opinion is your opinion. I was just taking a liberty at voicing mine BTW.


Furthermore, I rather agree with Mega X.exe on this one, because the last of the humans DID die, and the CARBONS were left. Don\'t get mre wrong...more humans could be dwelling beneath the surface, but the humans that inhabited the land are long gone....in fact...any humans underground or in the sea are probably gone, because remember the sub gate cities in MML1? They were all empty and crawling with reaver bots. Moving on, the Carbons were put there. Juno and Sera both babbly about how they carbons have gotten out of hand, leading to the theory that the Carbons were left there to take care of the planet.

Annnd...Megaman Trigger is one of those...I forgot...um..blocker was it? Umm...anyway, he\'s a support robot. The carbon reinitialization program had nothing to do with his behavior. At least...I don\'t think it did. I think it was a fail-safe in case things got out of hand.

Furthermore, Roll, Barrell, Tron...EVERYONE are carbons. Except Megaman. There ya go.

Anyway, about my little quotation that I\'ve been dropping for every \'Megaman and Roll\' topic, I made that because...well...I thought they he/she may have had better things to do rather than obsess over fictional characters getting it on.

As for what\'s going to happen in MML3...[if there is one], I\'m pretty sure that Capcom is probably going to develop Megaman and Roll and Trons love triangle.


Annnd....Heatman.exe...you\'re right. Capcom probably DOES want us to insenuate things about Megaman and Roll. I just never looked at it in that light.


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Thanks for backing me up.

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Well, I know when I\'m whooped. But still, saying that Carbons can\'t love is so sad and unromantic... It\'s like saying dwarves or elves couldn\'t love...:cry:


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Wow. I\'m not angry at anyone anymore.
How did that happen?
Anyhow, Hiro, I think what I\'m trying to say is that it\'s all right for you to think about it occasionally, but it shouldn\'t be the subject of EVERY post you make. :lol:
And Mega X... maybe you\'re right... I still don\'t think that denies the right of marriage... I mean, you said yourself that nobody like Megaman was still alive, right? Then... does that banish him to feel no love?
Also, it can\'t be a love triangle if

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Tron and Roll don\'t like each other

which only happens in yuri or shoujo-ai... :sick:


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Saturdays: The day Protoman comes over. He doesn't do or need anything, but Roll insists Rock to sit down and talk to him. So commences the 12-hour awkward silence treatment until Protoman disappears when everybody's back is turned.

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They (Capcom) never discussed how the Master made the carbons. I believe that the carbons are not even living but just fragments of data (just like the cartoon ReBoot). But yet again, why did the Master die when he enter their world? The whole story has more plot holes than swiss cheese. You can\'t really take any \"fact\" for a fact.

Remember, they failed to mention Doctor Light in this series. ;^^ Unless... hea. ;;;;^^ Nothing. ;;;^^

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1. They can still love

2. Megaman\'s people? He isn\'t a human ya know.

3. Break, you watch(ed) ReBoot?

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Originally posted by Mega X.exe Megaman\'s people? He isn\'t a human ya know.


Yup, yup. Megaman is some \"robot\" the Master made when he wanted someone to be with since all the other \"robots\" were overprotective or they had their jobs to attend to than to do idle chat with him. (Remember that all the \"robots\" refused that he should visit the Carbon world. Megaman was the only one that understood why he wanted that and helped him go there.)


I recorded the series ReBoot. That answers your question, no MegaX? ^_^

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Hiro, stop making all these Roll topics! They\'re making me mad!

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SolarWarrior, just as I told Zera and AirMan when they kept posting in your topics: if you don\'t like a certain type of discussion, just ignore it, and certainly don\'t post in it! You have to do it both ways.

I\'m letting this toic to run because it expanded over the original subject \"Roll blablabla\". However, further topics that are just reharshes of the same subject will be locked.


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*sigh* Well, I can\'t fight it...but:

What do I think of Roll? I think she\'s hot. No...really...I do. I mean...it is anime...but I do like how she looks. Furthermore, I also think that Humans and carbons are two different things.

Like Mega X.exe said ;)

Anyway...that\'s my opinion.


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*sigh* Well, I can\'t fight it...but:

What do I think of Roll? I think she\'s hot. No...really...I do. I mean...it is anime...but I do like how she looks. Furthermore, I also think that Humans and carbons are two different things.

Like Mega X.exe said ;)

Anyway...that\'s my opinion.

So, then... is it alright for me to second your opinion? :D


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Saturdays: The day Protoman comes over. He doesn't do or need anything, but Roll insists Rock to sit down and talk to him. So commences the 12-hour awkward silence treatment until Protoman disappears when everybody's back is turned.