I\'ll try to simplify this further although my patience is being drained.

Violence is violence. (ie. fruits are fruits)

Video game violence is not quite the same as real life violence although both are part of the same category: violence. (ie. apples and oranges are different but they are both still fruits)

Overexposure (I\'m starting to hate this word) to video game violence has little to no effect on most people when it comes to real life violence (ie. If you eat apples constantly, your taste in oranges probably won\'t diminish but your fondness of apples probably will.)

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Back on track...

If hentai and porn was all that healthy, why is it necessary to add that 18+ reminder on everything that has nudity?

[sarcasm]If it\'s so healthy, our children should be exposed to it more! You know, we should just ignore the legal age of consent thing too. The earlier our kids have sex, the better off they\'ll be, right?[/sarcasm]

The whole thing about 18+ and stuff like that is to prevent the desensitization of our youth. Not that there\'s not enough garbage floating around in the media to do the job. The age restictions are there to slow down the process, like putting food in the fridge. You slow the rot but it will still happen given enough time.

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Then why do we see naked bodies in the mirror?

You know, in bathroom, when you\'re getting ready for shower. There\'s nudity.

The 18+ rating was invented by paranoid americans who were like, \"omg, nudity bad\". It probably has something to do with religion but got lost somewhere along the way. I don\'t know if I\'m even making sense or if I\'m being a moron!

It works like this: A long time ago, The cristians wanted to stop a greek sect worshiping Venus (the greek love god), the worshiping included mass orgies and drugs. So they they stated that sex was a sin and startded to paint leaves over genetals and made rules about sex. As the years passed, the fair of breaking that rule was taught to one generation to the next. Today, though many have stoped beleeving in cristianety, the fear is still there. It has had such a powerfull influance on us that we see it as unethical to those things, at least most do. I am not lying about this, it was this debate with the greek sect that actually started our problems with nudety. I dont wan\'t to sit here writing proof since it would take up a few pages. Just try to trust me on this one....

[Edited on 16-2-2004 by Snakeman.EXE]

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YEAH ITS HEALTHY!!
(goes back to looking at Felicia Pic.)

Didn\'t think anyone would say that... oO

I think it is unhealthy. Just sitting on your computer all day.... waiting.... doing something else while waiting...(could be ANYTHING) then finishing...then watching.... then finally drooling....(Or something else....)

I do like Anime girls but not that way. I dont like real women but that is because I plan to be single when I grow up. Love is too much for me too handle.... (Especially since that incident in 8th Grade... My time wasted... The girl I liked never really liked me... ;___; )

So love ended for me there... and the decision to go solo was born. I have only one purpose for my Anime females... That is to use them for avatars.

Some of my friends and me read doujins because it\'s freakin\' funny when you make them say stuff. Other than that..bleh

I\'m just going to say this:
Too much of anything is bad. However, if taken in moderation, pornography and hentai can be healthy. This by no way means you should spend 23 hours a day staring at pictures of... Whatever it is you enjoy. It\'s all about moderation. The things I\'m arguing against is the people who take in to much and don\'t (or do) realize it.

I read this article that masturbation (and consequently, sex) is healthy for men (I dunno about women) because it reduces the risk of prostate cancer. Something about having sperm stored too long in the tubes is bad for the pipes. Something like that... I cut out the article but I gave it to my friend for his birthday because... Well that\'s not important. ;D

You\'re also getting a fat head. If you don\'t want to debate with me, keep your damn mouth shut.



And exactly, where\'s your proof of that? I just think you\'re obviously biased to videogames, so of -course- the violence in them are alright, -you- play them and there\'s nothing wrong with you, oh no.

You look down your nose at other people who look at things you find objectionable, that\'s all. Yes, some people do have weird fetishes. Some people look at hentai. But there\'s no solid proof that the hentai caused the fetish to occur.

Some people play Doom and end up killing their classmates. There\'s no PROOF that Doom caused those kids to kill their classmates. It\'s all speculation and frankly, I think all the individuals who do these sorts of things are somewhat -mentally disturbed- in the first place, and would have done the things ANYWAY, regardless of \'overexposure\' to hentai or games.

Uhh... I\'m getting quite...:conf: of this topic. o.O Well, I don\'t like hentai at ALL.. I REALLY hate seeing ads of Hentai!

I said my patience was being drained because whenever I tried to make a comment, you would twist my words and make an attack on me.

I would advise you to watch your language when you\'re \"debating\" but that\'s should be common sense. If you need to use profanity and insults to get your points across, then you shouldn\'t be making points at all.

I\'m not sure if you\'re reading my posts or just picking up the keywords. I was trying to say that video game violence does not necessarily lead to real life violence but enough violence of any type will result in desensitization of that specific type. My proof is simply that people can get bored of violent video games but will still cringe at the sight of a slaughterhouse regardless of how many hours they play.

However the same cannot be said for sex/hentai. The sight of attractive characters of the opposite (or similar) gender will generate the same feeling in the person viewing it regardless of whether it\'s cartoon or real. The same cannot be said for violence. If you see someone getting their heads chopped off in real life, you might throw up or something. If you see it in a video game, you will probably not throw up because you know it\'s not a real person and the death of this fictional character means little to the viewer.

For future rebuttals, please stay calm and voice your opinions without flaming me in the process. Thank you.

Dude, you did not just say that to Hollow. It\'s not very wise


You\'ll live. You\'re lucky it wasn\'t Necro you said that too.



[Edited on 2/16/2004 by Mega X.exe]

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Yeah, because Necro can project himself alot better..can put his thoughts into words. I can\'t.

I\'m not sure if you\'re reading my posts either. Because all I\'m trying to say, is that you\'re stereotyping/generalizing.

\"All people who play Megaman Battlenetwork are 12 year old lamers.\" That is a generalized statement, and is on the same vein as \"All people who look at hentai get strange fetishes.\"

You are being unfair. You\'re grouping vastly different people together. Column A isn\'t the same as column B, but you have them both in column C.

Do you even realize what you\'re saying? Or do you not know your fellow videogamers? There are several people I know of that get sick from seeing games like Resident Evil. It\'s the same as watching a gory movie. How many times have you heard people getting sick in movie theaters from gory movie watching? And that\'s not \'real life\' either, even though the characters are real actors.

Pictures can mean a thousand words. And you have to admit that videogames are getting very close to looking realistic nowadays. I don\'t see how someone who is sensitive to acts of violence wouldn\'t get sick from a videogame, but would get sick from a movie.

Anyways, I wasn\'t even near flaming you. I think \'overexposure\' to this messageboard is making you abit sensitive...

Please, please prove that every fetishist got into their fetish simply because they were bored of normal sexual situations. People don\'t control what turns them on. Ask a gay person why they\'re attracted to members of the same gender and why they don\'t control it so they like females. It\'s not how it works. Just because people have the freedom to explore fetishes today doesn\'t mean they weren\'t around before.

Also, fetishes are perfectly healthy as long as everyone involved is consentual. No one has any right to tell anyone else what is wrong within the subject as long as it\'s consentual.



That\'s completely untrue. You\'re stretching facts akin to propaganda to support your point.

You\'re a fellow Canadian, so I\'m sure you must be aware that in Canada, a movie that has just nudity itself will get a rating of 14A. Again, the rating will be 14A. Only when the nudity becomes a sexual situation in a movie will the rating become 18A.

The reason these restrictions are placed is because it gives parents the freedom to raise their children as they see fit. If a parent decides that they don\'t think porn is unhealthy and allows a child to look at it, it\'s their decision. If a parent decides they don\'t want their child to look at it, they can(try at least) to stop their child from looking at it easily due to the fact the child cannot purchase porn legally. The restrictions also protect those who create pornography. A parent can\'t complain that their child is looking at porn to those who make it if there\'s a restriction, because it\'s not like they marketed it to the mass public where anyone of any age could get it.

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[sarcasm]If it\'s so healthy, our children should be exposed to it more! You know, we should just ignore the legal age of consent thing too. The earlier our kids have sex, the better off they\'ll be, right?[/sarcasm] [/quote]

Last time I checked the legal age to purchase pornography hasn\'t had any effect on how early people have sexual relations with other people. In some areas the age is 18 and in others 21. Yet both you see teenagers under those age limits having sex in both areas.



Who decides what is and isn\'t healthy? New ideas are never widely accepted by everyone in the beginning, because there are those who try to cling on to on to things as they were. The world forever changes, and as the times change, people have to adapt.

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SonicWarrior7/Solarboom8 or whatever. I\'d like to say:

Anata wa hentai desu

as is this topic

People feeling fear from other members.

Hollow and Necro are prolly gonna kill for saying this but... (Are you two like the devils of MMPC and willing to scare and hunt other members for fun? )

Sex=healthy? Oo Definately not. AIDS could be lurking amuck. (Or h/e it\'s spelled...)

Heitai is definately not healthy because... you just spend a bunch of time searching then more searching and maybe even more?

Then they just lie on your computer... sitting...sitting... and more sitting... Nice life eh? </sarcasm> And then you look at them... and more... and more... Maybe some people even d/l hentai like La BLue Girl or w/e tentacle monster and girl involved raping... (I hope Devil Hunter Yohko isn\'t like that. O_o)

Man... I\'m getting a headache from reading long replies... @___@ So here\'s my pitiful attempt to bore other members and hopefully kill the topic.

.______.

Errrr...not to speak for Necro, but we\'re just normal everyday folks like you and the rest of the board. We don\'t try to scare anybody, we\'re just being ourselves..

And yes, what Doc said is right on. There\'s pros and cons to everything.

And umm..what was your name, Vincent? Well, the Asakura guy.. You assume that people who get hentai are going to spend an eternity infront of their computers \'using\' it. That\'s called obsession. Not everyone who has hentai even has a computer though, ever think about that?

Ehhh.... I\'m really tired of fighting a war I can\'t win. I quit.

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Just to be honest: I didn\'t look through the whole list of posts on this topic. I might later.
My 2 cents:
It is alright to like anime women. It is a hobby some people have. I, personally, am against hentai. However, the same ways to prevent nonfictional hentai is the same way to prevent fictional. Neither can be altogether stopped. I am not going to avoid watching a good anime just because it has some \"hot\" anime women in it. I will not watch it if I know it goes over the bounds, though... I draw attractive anime women and I am no more the sick for it.
If you\'re trying to marry one ,though, you\'re gonna have a long lonely life.

lets just say, different strokes for different folks.

Case closed :cool: .

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You obviously don\'t understand politics

Use the private messanger next time to comment on one person specifically. What you did could be classified as trolling.

[Edited on 17-2-2004 by Necro]