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Bah. I hate religous topics. I\'ll give you two good reasons.

1. Someone, I remember no who, but someone decided we\'d have no more after a certain topic which became very controversial.
2. These religous topics never affect anything, because you and others like you won\'t change your opinion and neither will Mega X or others like him.

On the side, they also take too much effort to post, because you must make long responses.:P

Anyways, I still hold true to my Christain beleif, but I don\'t want to post about it anymore.:D;

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Hey, I never said anything discriminatory. Note that I say people like WindRider and people like Mega X. See, there\'s lots of different types of people, each with different unique ideas and...

Nevermind.:zzz:

Anyways, I also don\'t take kindly to the term \"blindly following.\" I mean, certainly you don\'t beleive I\'m a Christain cause it\'s the accepted way or my father said so? I assure you that I have put some thought into my faith. It\'s not simply a matter of going to special Christain groups, attending church, or being accepted. The problem is, too many people now view Christianity as an effortless religion that is followed simply because people accept it.

And did I ever say I\'m not going to hell? I personally beleive I still have a LOT of understanding to accomplish before I\'m destined for heaven.

I myself am Christian, but, I think it\'s nice that someone can post a religious topic that they actually thought out, and didn\'t just post for the sake of bashing a particular religion. As for evolution... well, I believe in it. I believe in faith, but I also believe in science.. I guess that makes me an evolutionary creationist. While I can\'t argue against the fact that a lot of religious people are, unfortunately, very hateful, I can argue this:

Religion is not a foolish thing to have, it keeps much of humanity going. Why would there even be life if not for the sake of something greater? We\'d have nothing to live for, and, science has proven many a time that everything has a reason.

Now.. Religion and Science... Fortunately, I happen to have a very intelligent science teacher, and he brought up this point: Religion and science clash. You cannot prove the existance of God (or a god) with science. That\'s the point. Science is about theories, things that people welcome to testing and further speculation. Religion, on the other hand, is faith-based. You\'re not allowed to test it. Either you believe, or you don\'t. Without faith, there would be no point in having religion.

Ironically though, Science would hardly exist were it not for Religion. For that is what started and created it in the first place. Only in the recent past has Science turned mainstream Atheist.

Thus leaving the question, if Science truly clashed with Christianity or any other Religion for that matter, why were the majority of scientists religious in the past?

BTW, have Wind and I become opposite extremes on the religious scale? Heh, I\'m starting to like this topic.

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*im fed up with the people who \"say\" they\'re christian and dont show it my whole life i have seen the \"actual\" christian and the \"fake\"

i have seen the lives of the people who are fake, and by god, they are just like the everyday person. just to let you know, only 1/1000 is actually a christian, mabye even less. people have been raised up to say they are christians, thinking that it will make them a good person. just to let those people know, it doesnt. but a person who sticks to their belief, and doesnt actually contradict themselves is a person i may respect.

certain religions to me have proven themselves wrong...the ones i feel arent very good are those that say you have to kill the enemy...mostly christians and jews... why do they want to kill people who dont even do them any harm? mabye they just feel like they are wrong, and dont want people to know it...thats my thought

iv even seen some loons who wanted a perfect life, so they put different beliefs of all religions together to make them seem like a god.....freakin morons

umm....i agree with most of what windrider was saying...besides some of the facts of all religions are fake....there has to be a right answer for life, and i dont know if i have been near any. i dont want any contreversy going on, its just stupid to figh over different opinions

anyways, couldnt there have been a right lifestyle in the beginnings of the earth, when someone didnt like it, so they made up their own religion? i think that could be a point nobody has thought of

i dont really know if anything now is right...ive studied and studied searching for truth, and all ive found is that most religions point to many things stated in the bible...no specifics that i want to state...but what i hate is when discovery made a show of what THEY feel is the right way to put the flood, dont they know that they could be wrong? why do they want to make people doubt what they actually believe?

there are too many questions i have to be answered in my lifetime.*

I was going to use some quotes Pikachu, but your thing is too long, and it would take up a lot of space and make me look smart.:lol:

You\'re right that there are many who will kill others in the name of their religion or as a sort of \"extermination\" of unconvertable nonbelievers. One could consider these killings \"crusades\", but to do so is to credit them far beyond the term they deserve. Terrorism for the sake of religion is still terrorism. It seems like a basic principle to me that we Christians try to convert people. I can\'t imagine why anyone would want to kill others of a different religion, because tolerence is another basic principle. Extermination is the contrary action of conversion, and I think that religous exterminations should always be avoided in any way possible.

About divorce... Well, the real problem is, if we say divorce is wrong, many people are abused and left in the uncomfortable marrages. But by saying divorce is acceptable, we make it a great oppurtunity for 5-second marrages, or ones without any thought behind them. We make it easy for people to end up with (sadly) an extra baby or two that they can\'t care for. Divorce just seems like an option that makes marrage seem like not such a big deal.

One religion does have room for others: Buddhism. The belief (put very basically) that all suffering comes from desire. So eventually, if you follow the 8-fold path, you will relieve yourself of desire. Also, not desireing leads to not posessing.

The point is you can be a Chrisian Buddhist. A Buddhist who believes that once you die you go to heven and that Jesus is the son of God.

About what you saidabout the multitude of religions, all believing themselves to be the right one; well, I believe you\'ll find that many of these are incredibly similar, if not identical. For example, Judaism, is basically Christianity without Christ and with passover and Kosher and Treffah foods. Islam is very similar, also. In fact, to my ineducated mind, the only religions that are completly different from Chrisitainity are Buddhism (if believed in alone), Hinduism and Sikhism.

Religion vs Science! The ultimate showdown.

For one thing, we must not take anything a holy book says literally without first asking the question, \"Who wrote it?\". For example, in Sikhism, the book was written by the last guru. Therefore is more likely to be accurate than a Chrisitan Bible that was written by the Romans (enermies of Jesus at the time he was alive). They\'re hardly going to say \"It\'s a shame we didn\'t kill the bastert when we had the chance\". Also, ask \"How long after the occasion wa it written?\" In the case of the Bible, a VERY long time.

My beliefs? I am Christian, although, I have much to criticise of the people who are in power and how they use relgion for their own benefit, but you get that with all major religions. I also don\'t take kindly to the Catholic church ignoring child-sex offenders just because they\'re priests and \"holy\". Nor do I apptove of mysterious documents regarding holy objects such as the Holy Grail disappearing into the Vatacan, never to be seen again.

I don\'t mind the religions themselves, it\'s the people who use them for their own perposes and for power over others, I have a problem with.

Also, most importantly, I don\'t believe that someone\'s religion somehow makes them different, superior or inferior, to anyone else.

[Edited on 14-11-2004 by AirMan]

Uh. Air, the Bible wasn\'t written by Romans.

Heatman, Aimman, I said I was directing that rant at another board. Not to you two. Aimman just said something that sounded abit like \"they\" would say, so.. *shrug*

But anyways.

Well, we\'d all be in deep trouble if God kept a schedule for his wrath.:lol:

What I mean is, God has always been compassionate, but he may have only appeared wrathful in the old testament. This is because, I guess, purely by coincedence, he had no need to exert his force.

[Edited on 15-11-2004 by AimMan v2.5]