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Recieved in an e-mail by Minoizuri:

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or Goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counseling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan\'s temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

-Frequently wears black clothing.

-Wears band and/or rock T-shirts.

-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.

-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.

-Shows an interest in piercing or tattoos.

-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)

-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.

-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.

-Takes drugs.

-Drinks alcohol.

-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)

-Complains of boredom.

-Sleeps too excessively or too little.

-Is excessively awake during the night.

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.

-Spends large amounts of time alone.

-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)

-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.

-Misbehaves at school.

-Misbehaves at home.

-Eats excessively or too little.

-Eats Goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)

-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)

-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

-Uses the Internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.

-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

-Expresses an interest in sex.

-Masturbates

-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.

-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: \"I\'m so gothic, I\'m dead\", \"woe is me\", \"I\'m a goth\".

-Claims to be a Goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary\'s Catholic Church


My question... (one of many, many... ), how does being gay or masturbating make you a goth?

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I suppose this is destroying my Christian rep too.:lol:;

Anyways, having sex or being gay doesn\'t make you a Goth. I\'m afraid that this person has quite a few thing mixed up. The worst thing was his mentioning of \'Count Dracula cereal\'. It\'s COUNT CHOCULA. I\'ve been eating it for months now, and I\'m far from Goth, I believe.:P


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Yeah, if your child claims to BE a Goth, there\'s a good chance... :rolleyes:
Anyways, Goth is COMPLETELY the wrong term to use for these kids. And only the ones who are attacking Christianity are a problem to it, not the ones who just want privacy so they can, as this thing puts it, \"meditate with evil spirits.\" :rolleyes:

P.S.... you... changed your username...?


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Dear God! Is that email supposed to be read by goths only? ;)

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Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or Goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counseling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan\'s temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

FUN! Let\'s see how much the list would apply to me and if I would need a priest or an exorcist. :D

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-Frequently wears black clothing.

How about the nuns wearing black too? :P
Since I wear black pants, T-shirts and sweaters sometimes, I guess I scored 1/1

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-Wears band and/or rock T-shirts.

On some occasions I\'m wearing a T-shirt of Metallica or Marilyn Manson. So 2/2

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-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.

Nah... 2/3

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-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.

My neckless I\'m wearing all the time looks odd to me. My grandpa bought it in former Yugoslavia. Maybe it\'s Alexander the Great which is on the amulet but it\'s so vague I wouldn\'t know for sure...
But since it\'s something odd: 3/4

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-Shows an interest in piercing or tattoos.

Do earrings count too? :P
I find them interesting sometimes, but I\'m not interested in getting one of it. So 3/5

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-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)

WHOOPS! Guilty as charged! 4/6

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-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.

So I can\'t act silly too? DAMN! 5/7

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-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

I do sports sometimes. Not on a regular basis, though... 6/8

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-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.

It would seem constant to decreasing to me now. So 6/9

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-Takes drugs.

I don\'t like the drugs, but the drugs like me. 6/10

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-Drinks alcohol.

Not purely, though... 7/11

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-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

Sometimes... 8/12

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-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)

Nah! Doing it to others is more fun. :D 8/13

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-Complains of boredom.

Boredom: yes, Complaining: no. :P 8/14

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-Sleeps too excessively or too little.

Well, I don\'t like getting up early with the other and push each other aside to make breakfast... 9/15

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-Is excessively awake during the night.

Happens sometimes when I don\'t feel tired at all... 10/16

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-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

Nope! :cool: 10/17

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-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.

Unusual to others, usual to me... 11/18

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-Spends large amounts of time alone.

Guess so... 12/19

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-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)

I don\'t do requests. I only take opportunities. 12/20

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-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

my friends and I are adults... 12/21

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-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.

Nah! I\'m not that rude. 12/22

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-Misbehaves at school.

I\'m not at school anymore... 12/23

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-Misbehaves at home.

Not anymore... 12/24

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-Eats excessively or too little.

Guess so... 13/25

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-Eats Goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

Nah... 13/26

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-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)

Only when I got wounded... 14/27

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-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)

Watching cable is a very normal custom here in Europe, since the public stuff and everything else is also shown on it... 15/28

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-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

Role playing too? Damn that would make almost everyone of us guilty too. 16/29

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-Uses the Internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

Well, yes! 17/30

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-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.

Sometimes, when I feel like it... 18/31

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-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

Nah... 18/32

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-Expresses an interest in sex.

I\'m not that unhealthy to not do... 19/33

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-Masturbates

I find it more worrysome if people don\'t do it at all... 20/34

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-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.

And then to consider that some religious people finding themselves being that have the escape option to become priests...
As for me being just straight: 20/35

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-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

It surprises me the Islam is not listed...
Since I don\'t do religions: 20/36

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-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: \"I\'m so gothic, I\'m dead\", \"woe is me\", \"I\'m a goth\".

Nope! 20/37

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-Claims to be a Goth.

Nope! 20/38

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If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

Considering my total score of 20/38, which comes out to a percentage of *grabs calculator* 52.6% I should be institutionalized and excorcized.

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Well, well, well. So it\'s THEIR judgement. Ain\'t we all lucky they\'re not in charge of the world (err... yet)?

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My question... (one of many, many... ), how does being gay or masturbating make you a goth?

It doesn\'t. That would rather be a side effect of being goth (according to you-know-who).

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Honestly, that list is stupid and pathetic.

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i\'m goth and i dont come close to most of the tings on that list


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Honestly, that list is stupid and pathetic.


Agreed. The people who came up with this list are probably stereotypical people who can\'t even see past stereotypes. Pfft. I don\'t understand their logic, really. ;_;

Why is it that the extremists are the loudest? x_o;

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That\'s probably the biggest load of bullshit I\'ve read all year...it was funny at times, but at other times, it was downright stupid.


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To add to my original post, this is moreso a radical uber-Christian anti-tolerant message! I mean, Buddhism is a religion formed around the idea of spiritual peace and enlightenment! Hinduism practices ideas of spiritual reincarnation. Neither seem like anything anyone could be called Gothic for practicing.:rolleyes:


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Those things dont sound like a gothic person,only the Satanic stuff.


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Because requested, I\'ll post my two cents why I closed this topic.

This topic will only bring hate. Lies and hate tie together. This topic picture Christians as narrow-minded and haters. That is a flame for one. That is also a lie in many cases too. The topic breaks at least one rule. What else can I say?


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[Edited on 7-12-2004 by Breakman]