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What do you think of the Apocalypse? Is it drawing near? I dunno. It never says that it happens everywhere at the same time. Maybe it has happened and will happen again. By which I mean the end of various empires/species etc. It never states how everything is destroyed. Can you see Satan, or is he just a personified image of destruction?

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Well, if scientists are right, it would have involved a lot of fire.


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Well, if scientists are right, it would have involved a lot of fire.

what do you mean by that? It doesn\'t have to be fire. it could be earth quakes and floods, or a meteor could hit the ocean and make a tsunami that can wipe out HUGE parts of the world. Or it could be like that movie..umm....The Day After Tomorrow, and we could have some insane weather phenomenon. So please explain what you mean by \"if scientists are right\".

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Well...a island in the alantic ocean is about to collapse at the next eruption iyt\'s colvaon has, it\'s supposably going to fall apart and cause a massive tsunami..and it\'s towards the U.S,,,


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Well...a island in the alantic ocean is about to collapse at the next eruption iyt\'s colvaon has, it\'s supposably going to fall apart and cause a massive tsunami..and it\'s towards the U.S,,,

Oh oh I heard somethign abotu that like a week ago on some news program. they\'re not REAL sure that\'s going to happen, but it COULD and that would be no good.


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The Apocalypse might be the End of the World as we know it.

A comet should be the one that will Cause the End of the World in 2012.

If we could Build a Space Shuttle that can fit the whole World(everything like Animals & insects), The End of the World would never be the end of Animals, Mammals, Insects & Mankind.


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It\'d happen without us knowing it. =P

The earth could explode one day... or the moon could crash on us!

...never mind, the moon is starting to leave Earth, so I\'d just say that we\'re really screwed when we lose our moon. (The moon controls the tides.)


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The Apocalypse might be the End of the World as we know it.

Really?

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A comet should be the one that will Cause the End of the World in 2012.

They said that a comet should\'ve struck us in 2000...and nothing happened.

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If we could Build a Space Shuttle that can fit the whole World(everything like Animals & insects), The End of the World would never be the end of Animals, Mammals, Insects & Mankind.

Something like that would never get built...not anytime soon atleast...and certainly not before 2012.

[Edited on 5/2/05 by AirMaster]


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Only NASA can be Capable of making stuff like that.

They must Build it from 2005, to 2011.

The Comet which will cause the End of Earth Might Strike & Kill us all.

If NASA makes a Shuttle that can fit us all & we Find a Planet that has Earth\'s Gravity & air, Us Humans along with Animals & Insects can live in that Planet.

The Problem is, We\'ll have to look outside our Solar System for a Planet like that.


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And snice many people (myself included) don\'t believe that the moon landing was real, I somewhat doubt that is out the window.

What did I mean by \"If scientists are right\"? I mean that scientists balieve that a massive omet struch that rased the Earth\'s temperature, somewhat.


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There\'s always terraforming Mars, AHAHAHA.

We\'re nowhere there. Yet. :P

And besides, comets pretty much miss the earth due to the moon being the shield or just can\'t even hit.


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Only NASA can be Capable of making stuff like that.

They must Build it from 2005, to 2011.

The Comet which will cause the End of Earth Might Strike & Kill us all.

If NASA makes a Shuttle that can fit us all & we Find a Planet that has Earth\'s Gravity & air, Us Humans along with Animals & Insects can live in that Planet.

The Problem is, We\'ll have to look outside our Solar System for a Planet like that.

Look, with our current technology we\'re only able to send a probe to Mars...that stops moving once it encounters a rock...so I HIGHLY doubt that we\'ll be able to build a giant ship where everyone will be able to fit in anytime soon.

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I doubt it at all.

Well, since I don\'t really have a \"view of the apocolypse,\" I\'ll give my friend\'s.

Stephen, who is (a non-denominational) Christian, says that the apocolypse will happen basically just like it does on TV. At the current time, he believes, all the souls who have died and believed in God are now in heaven. The people who were supposed to go to hell, however, are not there yet. They are resting in a state of \"sleep,\" in other words, to themselves, they are non-existant. At the time of the apocolypse, all the people who believe in God will die; those who were supposed to go to heaven will, of course, do so, those who are \"resting\" will now be sent to hell, and those that remain on Earth will be in a \"place\" worse then hell, they will endure horrible suffering, they will try to die, and they can\'t. Wow... seeing some resemblance. Anyway. After 1,000 years or so of suffering, or maybe he just said 50 (actually, he didn\'t give a number), they will finally be wiped out and sent to hell. He said if they cut off their own heads, they won\'t die.

Now I think this is rather impossible, excluding the religious part, because, for one, it only includes the humans. Is this to say that the animals won\'t be affected by the apocolypse? Well, maybe not, depending on your view of the apocolypse I guess, but a major disaster could not wipe out humans without affecting the animals. Extinction? Sure. But then it wouldn\'t happen just where all the people who believe in God die, etc. Extinction happens slowly. Unless, of course, it\'s extinction by a natural disaster, but then, of course, the animals would be affected. Plants and fungi would be affected too, but I can see how they\'d be left out of a story like this. Secondly, it is related to God, and yet, it only affects the Earth. Now in the typical view of the apocolypse, everything is destroyed, etc., etc., and this could only be related to the Earth. However, if it\'s something done by God, then of course it would have to affect everything including other planets and solar systems. And yeah, if you cut off your head, you die. (P.S.: Of course thi can be related to real-life scenarios, etc., the \"intense suffereing\" could be emotinal or physical, people could not die because they tried to commit suicide and failed, or because they simply want to die because they are in physiical pain but are not suicidal, however, he did specifically say that if you cut off your head you wouldn\'t die.


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A comet should be the one that will Cause the End of the World in 2012.

Why is a comet going to cause the end of the world in 2012?

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...never mind, the moon is starting to leave Earth, so I\'d just say that we\'re really screwed when we lose our moon. (The moon controls the tides.)

So the tide doesn\'t go in and out at a selected time. Big. Freakin\'. Deal. What is this big thing everyone has about the tides?

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The Apocalypse might be the End of the World as we know it.

Really?

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A comet should be the one that will Cause the End of the World in 2012.

They said that a comet should\'ve struck us in 2000...and nothing happened.

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If we could Build a Space Shuttle that can fit the whole World(everything like Animals & insects), The End of the World would never be the end of Animals, Mammals, Insects & Mankind.

Something like that would never get built...not anytime soon atleast...and certainly not before 2012.

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If NASA makes a Shuttle that can fit us all & we Find a Planet that has Earth\'s Gravity & air, Us Humans along with Animals & Insects can live in that Planet.

There are no known planets that people can live on, and if we did find one we wouldn\'t be able to get there; everything would die of old age before we got there.

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Uh.

You missed the point, God.

Without the moon... no more 24-hour days. The earth would now have 4 hour days and would spin rapidly that the tides would be out of control. :P

And yes, he would have said that even if it wasn\'t TN who said that. It\'s a incredibly naive view to think that everything\'ll be okay when we obviously don\'t have that ability to make it so.


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And without the moon, People may not be able to Sleep due to Daylight.


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And without the moon, People may not be able to Sleep due to Daylight.

The moon does not cause nighttime.. Nighttime is caused by earth\'s rotation relative to the position of the sun. When part of the Earth is turned away from the sun, it\'s nighttime in that part. The moon is what lights up the night sky. The sun\'s rays hit the moon, lighting it up for us to see at night.
As for apocolypse.. well, if it were really the apocolypse, there\'d be nothing we could do to stop it. It\'d be the end of all things.


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Of course it is. I just didn\'t know he was doing it on purpose or not. Because of the manner of replying, not the fact that he did.

And I didn\'t know anything about the moon controlling the spede at which the earth spins, however I did know about it controlling the tides. And when it\'s movement gets erractic, whether in real life or in a movie (I don\'t know if this has actually ever happened), people get obsessed talking about \"the tides.\"

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Yet, Some People are Trying to start an Apocalypse.

Two Stupid People Blew up a Police Car as seen on Primetime Live.

That sort of thing happens every day. Humans have been killing each other out of spite ever since our species has come around. I doubt that these single incidents of one or two deaths mean anything... But massive, global catastrophe.. like huge volcanic eruptions, enormous tidal waves, massive hurricanes, and earthquakes all at once... that sounds like it would (if it happened) be a pretty good sign of the end.


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I bet that Asian Earthquake might End some Countries.

Like that 9-11 Tragedy, It\'s the Sign of the end of the World.


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I bet that Asian Earthquake might End some Countries.

Like that 9-11 Tragedy, It\'s the Sign of the end of the World.


The 9-11 incident was done by terrorism. Not by an Apocalypse. Terrorism and Apcalypse are two different things.

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Of course it is. I just didn\'t know he was doing it on purpose or not. Because of the manner of replying, not the fact that he did.

And I didn\'t know anything about the moon controlling the spede at which the earth spins, however I did know about it controlling the tides. And when it\'s movement gets erractic, whether in real life or in a movie (I don\'t know if this has actually ever happened), people get obsessed talking about \"the tides.\"

P.S. Kia, you\'re a girl, right?


Yep, and proud of it. XD

But yeah, I\'ve seen this stuff explained during a movie I watched for my biology class. It\'s one of those science stuff... discovery channel or NOVA. XP


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Being religious, I subscirbe to the book of Revelation. Which, I have linked here.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelations;&version=65;

That is the Message Bible. Click on the Next Chapter button to continue reading. This book outlines the end of the world, as per Christianity.

NIV: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelations;&version=31;

The drop-down box on the right changes which version you\'re reading.

So, that\'s what I believe at any rate, though it can be daunting to guess what\'s literal and what\'s figurative.

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The 9-11 incident was done by terrorism. Not by an Apocalypse. Terrorism and Apcalypse are two different things.

So are you saying the apocolypse can only be caused be a natural disaster? I mean, let\'s assume the apocolypse is one giant event that wipes out all (plant, animal and fungi) life on the planet. Does that mean that it has to be caused by say, a meteor, and couldn\'t be caused by some psycho suicidalist with 6 atomic bombs which will wipe out the world? I mean technology is irrelevant, we\'re talking about whether this could be caused by a human. Because, really, I don\'t see the difference.

And Mega X, I think you\'re tags are messed up.

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Only NASA can be Capable of making stuff like that.

They must Build it from 2005, to 2011.

The Comet which will cause the End of Earth Might Strike & Kill us all.

If NASA makes a Shuttle that can fit us all & we Find a Planet that has Earth\'s Gravity & air, Us Humans along with Animals & Insects can live in that Planet.

The Problem is, We\'ll have to look outside our Solar System for a Planet like that.


so you thin k in only 6 years we can make something that can hold everything on earth? and if you\'re so concerned about saving everything would you not also have to have a HUGE saltwater source and an equally huge fresh water source for all the fish to live and to have drinking water for the people? and then the thing about food...we could not get something that big off earth, no way, not for the next couple thousand years at least. and just what makes you so sure that something is going to hit in 2012.
I\'m not trying to be rude with that comment.
anyway I think something like an asteroid has a good chance of being seen before it can kill us....I mean I know we can only watch about 10% of the sky at a time, but still a big asteroid is not going to just appear overnight...that\'s just not the way it happens. So I\'m thinking that it\'s going to be some on earth natural disaster like some bizarre weather or something.
Oh and about the moon Kia it\'s moving away from the earth at about 3.8cm a year because of a natural occurance called \"tidal bulges.\" This happens because the side of the Earth that faces the Moon is closer, it feels a stronger pull of gravity than the center of the Earth. Similarly, the part of the Earth facing away from the Moon feels less gravity than the center of the Earth. This effect stretches the Earth a bit, making it a little bit oblong and it pushed the moon away a little bit. but the moon is never going to totally go away once it reaches the max distance it can because of the tidal budge the gravity of the earth will keep it in orbit.


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I believe what Mega X does and beleive that the answers can be found in the bible, specifically the book of Revalations. Also the \"left behind\" and \"Left behind the Kids\" series are pretty much what\'s going to happen at the end of the earth. If you don\'t feel like reading the bible or left behind they have a left behind movie that you can watch.

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you guys do understand that the book of revelations is not literal in anyway right. I am under the great impression that a lot of it was johns displeasure with the roman empire and the roman emperor. And most things that are not associated with that come from a history of apocalyptic literature, they all have a set tone with a stock cast of characters, there are some 30 or 40 from the ancient world, before Christianity, that we can actually read today. Also, apocalyptic literature was almost always a kind of literature for \"insiders,\" that is to say, it was written for people who already knew something of the situation and of the symbols that were used to portray it, making it hard for people in this day and age to understand. ...
sorry about the religious thing just now, I had to get it off my chest. You may all go about your normal lives now.


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Considering how humanity is generally tearing down it\'s own environment with all the negative consequences for the earth, I think we won\'t live to see the aformentioned apocalypses happening here as long as we keep going on consuming ourselves to death.

It\'s been calculated by some scientists that the earth will be beyond repair if we keep going donw that way we\'re going in ten years or so.

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Who needs the Apocalypse to destroy us? We\'ll do that on our own. Besides. I don\'t believe that even God can tell the future. He can probably make an educated guess, judging from our personalities/knowledge/intelegence etc. about what we\'d do in a certain situation, thereby guessing the near furtue, but nothing can be definite. After all, I believe in free will. There is a path we are supposed to take, but that\'s not saying we will. We have the choice. If the future is completely set, we cannot falter from it, we are not in control of our actions ergo we have no free will. Therefore, I cannot agree with the book of revelations.