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Truth of Humanity

Ultimately in this world, we humans are shrouded under the delusional veil known as truth. Continuously, we act as if we have the comprehension necessary to understand such divine things. We act under the false impression that there is such a thing as humanity, and that it is possible to be inhuman.

But what is humanity? Do humans have the right to judge themselves? Ultimately, such power comes from those under the delusion of power. And those who they appear to have power over actually believe that they have power over them, hence creating power by following them. Power begets power. And yet, humans continue to believe that there is such a thing as human. How can one be human, without another species of equal intelligence to compare against? And what exactly qualifies as human anyway (besides the physical specifications)? To be generous? To be unselfish? To be altruistic? These are the very things that humans ARENT!!! Humans are incredibly conceited, because they act under the impression that every speciesif anyis jealous of man. This is probably because of God, and religion, but that doesnt make it true. Ultimately, humans are great conceits of the universe. THAT is humanity.


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Well, first of all, I will tell you that just in this one day, you have put up more philosophical threads than we have had in the last six months.

I\'ll also say that \"humanity\" is merely a species of animals where it doesn\'t matter about us. Unless we destroy the world completely, trees, reptiles and other mammals will take our place long after we\'ve gone.

I also believe humans to be level with every other species of animals. I guess that a horse would look on us as we look on them. As intellegent, but not as intellegent as us. Along with the inquisative pig and the playful dog.

I also think that it is a sign of intellegence for an animal to be inquisitive. Dogs and pigs are but two animals which share this charicteristic. Along with Dolphins.

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Maybe Dolphins might, but I doubt that horses would. It\'s been proven that Horses and several other animals out there simply lack the necessary brain activity to be registered as any form of thought, or conceptual understanding. It could be that their brains are different from ours, but being that they are descended from the same creatures as us (somewhere along the line), I doubt that their brains are that different . . .

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You mean that horses are evolved from chimps, too?

Also, they use pigs in experiments because their brains are like ours.

You can tell an animals intellegence from the way it acts. You don\'t need to do a labotomy or whatever it is.


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Actually, I believe it\'s that pigs are more physically like us, rather than that there brains are similar to ours.

As for intelligence, the way something acts is what determines intelligence. Something with a small brain may actually be smarter than something with a larger one. For example, the Neanderthals had larger brains than modern humans, but we used them more and behaved in such a way that allowed us to survive while they became extinct.


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Truth of Humanity

Ultimately in this world, we humans are shrouded under the delusional veil known as truth. Continuously, we act as if we have the comprehension necessary to understand such divine things.


Interesting. You haven\'t really changed, I see. You still make statements like the above and then proceed to title your arguement with the same word you claim humans can\'t understand. Surely you must be aware of how much your title contradicts what you just said. You can\'t preach to people the truth of anything and then in the opening claim that people cannot understand what truth is. Not only does it contradict your title, it\'s incredibly pompous.

Remember not to betray your own beliefs and statements. There is no truth in any of what you said here, it\'s only your opinion, your perspective of how the world works.

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We act under the false impression that there is such a thing as humanity, and that it is possible to be inhuman.


This I actually agree with.

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But what is humanity? Do humans have the right to judge themselves?


Yes, humans have the right to judge themselves. Whether anyone likes it or not, everyone judges other people constantly, even if it\'s unintentional. It\'s just how people are. Furthermore, I can\'t see any reason why humans would not have this right. What is going to restrict humans from doing as such and who is going to impose such a law(?)? Why should humans not make such judgements?

On the subject of humanity and inhumanity, there\'s an obvious reason why such judgements are cast. Many acts that are considered inhuman are also dangerous to society or others. It\'s an easy connection.

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How can one be human, without another species of equal intelligence to compare against? And what exactly qualifies as human anyway (besides the physical specifications)? To be generous? To be unselfish? To be altruistic? These are the very things that humans ARENT!!! Humans are incredibly conceited, because they act under the impression that every speciesEf anyEs jealous of man. This is probably because of God, and religion, but that doesnt make it true. Ultimately, humans are great conceits of the universe. THAT is humanity.


Did you ever by chance look up human in the dictionary? This is the second definition at dictionary.com:

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Having or showing those positive aspects of nature and character regarded as distinguishing humans from other animals: an act of human kindness.


Generally when people classify something as human, they\'re referring to the above definition. It\'s not to say that that\'s how humans are. It is however, how many people would like to see others behave.

Humans can be concieted, but it\'s not like everyone is in the aspect you mentioned. The real problem is that our western society is heavily based from Christianity, which teaches people that they\'re special and created in God\'s image.

*shrug*

Again, to go back to the title, you really shouldn\'t have put the word truth anywhere in there. All you did was disregard the intended definition for humanity and created your own. However, it\'s hardly the truth.


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Don\'t waste your brainpower, Necro. ;)

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Don\'t waste your brainpower, Necro. ;)


Oh, put a sock in it.

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Or better yet, why don\'t both of you try adding something on topic.