YES IT MATTERS BECAUSE CONTINUITY IN STAR WARS MOVIES MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE.

I couldn\'t live knowing that Vader\'s scars were an afterthought..that George Lucas didn\'t think of this 20 years ago. I can\'t take it!

*puts on face obscuring robe* Ohhhh Emperor Palpatine I have not betrayed you..it\'s the lesser ones, they have betrayed you! OH if only I could shoot lightning bolts out of my hands and have a gunblade lightsaber then maybe you\'d notice me.

o.0 you seed to go on for too long to keep the sarcasm, so I\'m assuming that you\'re serieouse.


( how sad)

The sad thing is that 80% of the members here are far too gullible, far too easy to mock.

C\'mon people, make this a challenge..I\'m falling asleep here!

Oh yeah? Well...uh....Your mom!


Damn I\'m good. >_>

...I have turned to the Dark Side! I shall join the side of evil and smite all Jedi and Jedi-sympathizers and all on the planet who ever dare to disagree with me! Die, you all, Die! So says Darth Riishu!

...Okay. I\'m done. Seriously, it looked like his head was scarred to me. Remember, that movies pretty darned old- their specially effects may have been good for the time, but they may not be as realistic as you\'re used to.

-Ri

Yeah, ol Vader looked pretty bad in Return..real scarred up and hairless.

What I want to know is why alot of people hate Ewoks.. It boggles me. I don\'t love them but I don\'t go out of my way to hate them either.

Oh and.. *dons black cloak again* I am the Sith Lord uhhhh..Ovaltine, and I\'ve come to blow up your planet just because your leader looked at me funny during the last conference. >( I am also here to ask why we don\'t have any chicks in the ranks. No offense to our fine line up, I was just wondering.

Most ppl hate Ewoks because Wookies were supposed to be on Endor instead of Ewoks. But Lucas thought it would be too violent so he replaced them with Ewoks instead, making the movie more kid-friendly.

I don\'t hate ewoks. They amuse me. But then, I\'m easily amused. Oh, what did you mean by \"chicks in the ranks,\" HT? If you mean in the empire, it\'s because (I know this through the books) as well as being racist, the Empire is very sexist, as well.

-Ri

Are the books really canonical, though?

Supposedly, the books are George-Lucas approved. They actually regulate what officially goes into print.

-Ri

OKay Decent movie with wooden acting by Anakin (Hayden) and some serious problems (How the heck is it that the Jedi council doesn\'t figure out Anakin eloped)
it was decent.

Ot:The game sucks @$$ though.

That Movie Was Amazing.

Sorry to bump a bit, but I\'ve been wondering about something. I might have found an inconsistency in Star Wars, although, I\'m sure if I have it\'s already been discovered. In Season 2 of the animated series, you can see a hologram of the Emporer several times. In the hologram, when you see his face, it\'s shadowed completely except for the mouth and basicly around the chin. Around his mouth, the scars from Mace Windu\'s force lightning attack are evident, and his mouth his sagging and wide with the trademark crooked teeth. However, Mace Windu did not use the lightning on Senator Palpatine until the latest Star Wars movie, taking place after the Clone Wars cartoons. So basicly, my question is this: why does the hologram of the emporer already look so scarred in the cartoon when you even see Senator Palpatine unscarred in the same cartoon? Did he just manipulate the hologram to look like that? Or is it an actual inconsistency?

Heat mentions that maybe the voice is different between the Emporer and Palpatine, which may be true as well.

i haven\'t seen it but i don\'t really like the whole Starwars saga

I do, but I only have seen The Phantom Manace and Attack Of The Clones up to 66%. Can\'t wait for the rest, though.

Hey Aim...

If it were me, I wouldn\'t take the cartoon as canon. But that\'s just me, I only take the movies as canon and that\'s it. No \"Boba Fett made it out of Sarlacc\" bullshit.

It was most likely lazy animators and that\'s all.

The cartoon, video games, and certain books are canon- actually, the stories are regulated by Lucas himself. He has quite a bit of say over what happens in the books by other authors. Anyway. So as far as that goes, I think it\'s more an an artist\'s rendition/ slight goof up sort of thing. There\'s another thing, though- the emperor can take on slightly different guises. In fact, I need to read up on it more, but he supposedly can \"body hop.\" Maybe it was a ploy of some sort? Heh. Speculation. There\'s inconsistencies in most things. Nothing wrong with being observant, though.

-Ri

The problem with star wars is that it tries to be More than one genre at once example: Episode 3 focuses on Drama(Anakin\'s dark side), Action (Take a freakin guess), Romance (Padme needs better lines), and politics (Senate forms empire etc.) That\'s my problem with this.

Awww too many subjects confwooze you?

I think that complex stories such as this, which have many different elements are a good thing and can only be a bad thing if they get confusing, which Star Wars isn\'t.

Initially, when the Star Wars saga began, there was no formal organization of canon. The films, novelizations, radio dramas, and spin-off novels were produced, but no standards of canon were set by George Lucas or Lucasfilm, Ltd..

With the creation of new Star Wars novels in the early 1990\'s such as Timothy Zahn\'s enormously popular Heir to the Empire and his eventual Thrawn Trilogy, the publishing department at Lucas Licensing, Ltd. set out with a new publishing strategy. Instead of stand-alone books where the events of one did not influence another, the new novels would form a continuous storyline. In the words of Licensing\'s managing editor Sue Rostoni, \"Our goal is to present a continuous and unified history of the Star Wars galaxy, insofar as that history does not conflict with, or undermine the meaning of Mr. Lucas\'s Star Wars saga of films and screenplays.\"

Over the years, many Star Wars fans have wondered whether these books and other materials were part of Lucas\'s Star Wars storyline, or were merely optional filler material.

The Star Wars canon was defined in an interview with Lucas Licensing, Ltd.\'s Sue Rostoni and Allan Kausch in issue #23 of the Star Wars Insider:



This policy has been further refined and fleshed out over the years. The official Star Wars website also details the role of canon, Expanded Universe, or \"EU\" sources, and how they fit into overall Star Wars continuity. Chris Cerasi stated,



In July of 2001, George Lucas gave his opinion on the matter of what is canon in Star Wars during an interview with Cinescape Magazine.

[quote]\"There are two worlds here,\" explained Lucas. \"There’s my world, which is the movies, and there’s this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe – the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don’t intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, [but] they do intrude in between the movies. I don’t get too involved in the parallel universe.\"[/quote]

Further, in an August 2005 interview in Starlog Magazine, Lucas had the following to say:

[quote] STARLOG: \"The Star Wars Universe is so large and diverse. Do you ever find yourself confused by the subsidiary material that\'s in the novels, comics, and other offshoots?\"

LUCAS: \"I don\'t read that stuff. I haven\'t read any of the novels. I don\'t know anything about that world. That\'s a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions.\" [/quote]

By 1996, Licensing was keeping an in-house bible of reference materials as the number of publications, facts, and figures grew. They finally decided something had to be done to organize the increasingly large collection of media which chronicled the Star Wars universe. So, it was decided that a system of canon would be developed which would organize the materials into what was and wasn\'t fit for the Star Wars story.

As of 2000, Lucas Licensing has appointed Leland Chee to create a continuity tracking database referred to as the \"Holocron\". As with every other aspect having to do with the overall story of Star Wars, the Holocron follows the canon policy that has been in effect for years.

The Holocron is divided into 4 levels: G-canon, C-canon, S-canon, and N-canon.

G-canon is absolute canon; the movies, the scripts, the novelizations of the movies, and the radio plays. G-canon always overrides the lower levels of canon when there is a contradiction. Within G-canon, many fans follow an unofficial progression of canonicity where the movies are the highest canon, followed by the scripts, the novelizations, and then the radio plays.

C-canon is pretty much everything in the Expanded Universe; SW books, comics, and games. Games are a special case as generally only the stories are C-canon while things like stats and gameplay are N-canon. Though even certain things from stats and gameplay have made their way over to C-canon occasionally.

S-canon is \"secondary\" canon; the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements are still a canon part of the Star Wars universe. This includes things like the popular online roleplaying game Star Wars Galaxies and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.

N-canon is \"non-canon\". What-if stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), game stats, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N-canon is the only level that is not considered canon by Lucasfilm.

To summarize, all elements are part of the Star Wars story, unless they contradict the events of the six films in a way that cannot be rationalized. All elements contradicting the films are deemed apocrypha, and are not considered canon. There is also an \"infinities\" storyline in Star Wars publishing, which has the intent of telling non-canon Star Wars stories, using a \"what-if?\" attitude.

Good greif, Mega X, you know everything about everything.

With this, I guess only two mysteries really need to be solved to discover whether or not this was an inconsistency, a logical problem, or simply something non-canon which needs only be discarded from Lucas\'s plotline. Really, it\'s more so a question and a subquestion:

1) Which Canon level do the animated Star Wars series fall under?

2) If they are on one of the high-canon levels, does the Emporer have the ability to bodyhop/ change his image over hologram/ simply change in animation when in hood for some other reason?

Same with most other work, I\'d assume. C-Canon.

Episode three is my favorite closely followed by V

i just bought it on DVD

Ah.. See yeah, I\'m what they call a \"purist\". I just go by that \"G-canon\" stuff and exclude all else (seems like Lucas kinda does too, in a way)

So when someone\'s asking about a book or a cartoon, I just say \"don\'t worry, it\'s not canon\".

*sarcasm*Great for you *sarcasm* The main problem I have with this movie is the script if they got a better script it would be perfect aside from the multiple genres and the wooden actor Hayden Christensen. Padme\'s lines were like dirt as brilliantly shown here
Bottom line: People talk like they re in the 1200\'s.

why do you say that:conf:

Well...it does take place \"A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...\" :O

Anyway, I tend to prefer the books over the movies (especially the latest ones) for some odd reason...maybe because the stories are more interesting or w/e.

Well, the problem with the acting..is that Lucas got some more \"unknowns\" to try and capture that original saga essence.

As we all can see, it didn\'t work. The only actors that were awesome, were: Ewan McGregor, Christopher Lee, and Ian McDiarmid. Samuel LLLLL Jackson SUCKED HARD for being one of the well known actors.

THe books such as Shatterpoint always rock out loud and as for the Samuel L. Jackson sucking hard I came close to saying the F-word in the theatres and I don\'t mean quietly I mean Yelling it.