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Posted on October 28, 2005 at 23:14:01 [Post link]
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If you can be bothered to cook. And once again, we come to the reason they are bad parents to begin with.


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 0:35:54 [Post link]
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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 14:44:08 [Post link]
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PsychoGiga, most chefs are men. =P

Wind, (kill...) you're forgiven (kill?) (no.) (*sniff)


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 15:50:39 [Post link]
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PsychoGiga, most chefs are men. =P

Wind, (kill...) you're forgiven (kill?) (no.) (*sniff)


For restraunts etc. I'm talking about your average everyday man...like myself, who mostly can't cook a variety of things, except bbq. I can only make sandwiches and toast. :lol: The wife still belongs in the kitchen.


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 15:56:59 [Post link]
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For restraunts etc. I'm talking about your average everyday man...like myself, who mostly can't cook a variety of things, except bbq. I can only make sandwiches and toast. :lol: The wife still belongs in the kitchen.


Well... most people live of stuff like that. And junk. Erm... Junk Food that is... >.>;;...<.<;;
Cooking is actually quite easy to learn. Okay, a bit of talent and practise aren't wrong in place, but you could just learn it with a good cooking book! A good one, I say.


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 15:57:05 [Post link]
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Damn, did you guys ever like me?

I am probably a more mature young kid. I joined the boards back in '03, almost 3 years ago. Ah yes, the good ol' days. I was what, 9? Yes, there are many ignorant young kids out there. They don't know better, I mean, more and more kids have ADD nowadays, which makes it worse. I sometimes want to strangle some of the kids at my school because of how annoying they are. They always follow you arround... I feel like I already have a stalker at this age. They always get themselves and others in trouble... And they ruin a lot of things (note that I'm not only talking about ADD kids). The immaturity... Geez. It's mostly in boys though. They mature later on, and they are more agrissive in many ways.


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 16:06:51 [Post link]
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Yes, ADD is a problem. But so is ADHD, what my little brother has. And it is more into boys you say, well, girls have their own kinds of wrongs... Plus, both of them do drugs, alcohol, sex at the age of 13 and worse...


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 16:53:50 [Post link]
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Oh yeah, ADHD. I don't see why they do these things though. They never think ahead of what happens. Weak minds teens have these days...

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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 17:21:43 [Post link]
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PsychoGiga, most chefs are men. =P

Wind, (kill...) you're forgiven (kill?) (no.) (*sniff)


For restraunts etc. I'm talking about your average everyday man...like myself, who mostly can't cook a variety of things, except bbq. I can only make sandwiches and toast. :lol: The wife still belongs in the kitchen.


<.< And what if the wife can't cook worth sh*t? I'm female, and I can't cook unless you give me a cook book or simple instructions. By myself, I'd make something horrible. That, and I don't want to have to cook every day; I only like making an attempt at cooking if I WANT to, not NEED to.

Should be that whichever parent wants to stay home and watch the child(ren) should. I'm sure it's nice for the guys if it's the woman that does that, since it's... the woman's job, is it? I believe that's how a lot of males think. But a better idea is one of the parents having a job and being able to be home with the child(ren), or as previously said, working at home.

And yeah. Weakminded teens. Not just teens though, but people in general. That's mainly because the majority of the population don't seem to exercise or use their brains unless forced. Which leads to how bad things are lately. I'm not saying that I have the strongest mind, but it's not weak either.


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 19:49:07 [Post link]
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Plus, both of them do drugs, alcohol, sex at the age of 13 and worse...


Do you know how much of a minority you are talking about?


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 19:51:41 [Post link]
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Plus, both of them do drugs, alcohol, sex at the age of 13 and worse...


Do you know how much of a minority you are talking about?


XL size. About 50% of my class back at elementary school has already been to jail once or twice, has done drugs, alcohol, sex, stuff like that.


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Posted on October 29, 2005 at 20:49:38 [Post link]
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In that case, you must live in a very rough area.


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Posted on October 30, 2005 at 5:44:58 [Post link]
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In that case, you must live in a very rough area.


Maybe, most of those people get set out of their houses by the police thanks to contribution by other residents. I don't see much of the roughness, but then again, it probably mostly happens at night.


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Posted on October 31, 2005 at 3:49:16 [Post link]
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PsychoGiga, most chefs are men. =P

Wind, (kill...) you're forgiven (kill?) (no.) (*sniff)


For restraunts etc. I'm talking about your average everyday man...like myself, who mostly can't cook a variety of things, except bbq. I can only make sandwiches and toast. :lol: The wife still belongs in the kitchen.


<.< And what if the wife can't cook worth sh*t? I'm female, and I can't cook unless you give me a cook book or simple instructions. By myself, I'd make something horrible. That, and I don't want to have to cook every day; I only like making an attempt at cooking if I WANT to, not NEED to.

Should be that whichever parent wants to stay home and watch the child(ren) should. I'm sure it's nice for the guys if it's the woman that does that, since it's... the woman's job, is it? I believe that's how a lot of males think. But a better idea is one of the parents having a job and being able to be home with the child(ren), or as previously said, working at home.

And yeah. Weakminded teens. Not just teens though, but people in general. That's mainly because the majority of the population don't seem to exercise or use their brains unless forced. Which leads to how bad things are lately. I'm not saying that I have the strongest mind, but it's not weak either.


We're not getting sexist are we?:rolleyes: Well, originally, because men have the stronger body build, they worked and the women cooked. Now that most jobs work with a computer and are not physical labor, it could be either. If neither spouse knows how to cook, one of them is gonna have to learn. Probably the one that could rake in less cash. :P

In the subject of ADD, I think a lot of kids don't really have it. They were probably a little hyper when they were young, so their parents thought they had it. That means their whole life they grew up saying they had it, so eventually, because the brain is so complex, they really did get it. That and they took the pills for it, which could have caused it.

PS: I know there are a lot of strong women in the world, so I'm not saying women are weak, but c'mon, we all know men are usually stronger.


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Posted on October 31, 2005 at 18:41:32 [Post link]
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PS: I know there are a lot of strong women in the world, so I'm not saying women are weak, but c'mon, we all know men are usually stronger.


Uh, I don't know about you, but being a male, I've never experienced childbirth. So I'm assuming women are the stronger sex, not physically in terms of lifting shite, but in terms of like...well, endurance. And with that, I drop it.

Now, ADD and ADHD were usually remedied by a slap to the hand (A rather hard one, at that) back in the day, and since pain aversion is a major part of psychology, they learned to pay attention or be submitted to pain.

ADD could be a legitamate thing, or it could not, I don't know. It may just be a flighty mind, in which case kids just need to learn how to pay attention.

ADHD, however, sounds legit. Hyperactivity is an imbalance of chemicals in the brain, so the pill could balance them out and chill the kid out, just like how antidepressants work.

As for the cooking aspect? Males are usually chefs. Men are better (in general) at cooking meals that concern meat and anything resembling meat that can be grilled. Women on the other hand seem to have a natural ability on improvising recipies; My mother, for example, never makes something the same way.

And don't get in a tizzy about it, I'm talking in GENERAL, of course there are some men that can actually imporovise recipies and some women that can grill, etc. I'm not trying to stereotype, but unfortunately, that's how the world works, so.

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I think you must live in a bad town Hollow; first this was posted in 2005, before younger people like 16 - 20 became retarded (whereas in any other decade me at 25 and the 18-20-year-olds on campus would still pretty be much be exactly the same in my groups... uh, as they would if it was the group of when I was 19 - 22 (when I was there normally)); slightly before the Reality TV and Justin Bieber takeover was complete.

"Mouthing off" is a disgusting thing to say, and you do not have a right to tell anyone how to talk unless it is a personal argument. Of course the ones that go "nigga nigga that guy;s wearing blue i'ma beat yo' ass bcuz u lyke salads" are problems, but in those cases their parents are too (usually) and you likely wouldn't be saying anything to them if they are over like 9. And you most definitely do not have a right to tell any kid to stop doing something unless
-you are the employee somewhere
-it is obvious and universally agreed upon by most that this is bad, it is bad enough to actually matter, and the parent does not know about it and/or isn't close
- (or) it is something the kid is doing to you

It is not really your decisions whether or not someone else's kid is "old enough" to look at porn/violent stuff/etc., or whether a 5-year-old that is not yours should take off their clothes, or go in the pool with their clothes on, or run a lot, or anything else that is not harmful/obvious.

Drunk 13-year-olds and lots of teenagers randomly and seriously hitting things/people in public is definitely not normal throughout the country.

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If you have a kid that can't behave properly, why take another one of that kind?


These are usually just the kinds of people that are having "too much" sex. Either that or their Mexican (Mexican Christians don't believe in birth control according to rumor that is supposed to be true.)

The American way of life, in Europe?

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this society is really going downwards. everywhere in the world you see kids of 12 smoking, drinking, or even doing drugs

You mean the same as it has been for a century, where you rarely might run into someone who is doing things like this....??


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Well, that might help...
But actually, if we would just be rid of those kind of people, there would probably be just a few hundreds of millions of people left. Which would mean the world would be much easier to handle, which means we can get rid of our problems with nature, which means...
You get the point about now right?


Well, this is true, but we should not be killing 12-year-old kids just cause they like alcohol! They could be drinking, smoking, AND doing marijuana and LSD, and still be good kids! Or, they could be bad kids, but not... evil... who will be great people as an adult! We should be killing all the rapists and prostitutes instead, first... there are a LOT of prostitutes, so we may not need any more after that... but then... maybe child abusers... or whatever else one could think of; there are many evil people in the world who do none of these things.... in fact there are MANY people who are evil BECAUSE they think everyone must NEVER do drugs (for example like if Amish people were to spread hate like many non-Amish people with similar beliefs actually do). Or for another example this guy in this house, who has the worst case of EXTREMELY HOSTILE Asperger's Syndrome I have ever seen... he said the fact that this idiot guy was pulled out too far into the street (while waiting to turn from a parking lot) means he is a terrorist....

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Yea. I agree to that. I would also like to add that one of those problems is the ambiguity of female and male roles in society.

...And what, persay is a male or female "role"? There is nothing different between a male and a female, besides genitalia (and related functioning) and a VERY VERY VERY basic method of brain-processing.

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or have their 13-14 year old brother look after them. And to add that, we decided that one of them will just have to wait 'til next year to start Pre-school because of his unruly behavior and bullying.

This is not due to the fact that the age of the human looking after him is 14 (an age when one would normally have all the knowledge required to look after a 5-year-old, though one may be a bit impatient if the 5-year-old is more annoying then other 5-year-olds). It is (if your logic is at least partially true) due to the fact that the human looking after him is (presumably) an asshole. An asshole can be any age.

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A child without balance is a child without peace within.

And whether or not a child "has balance" is not dependent upon whether or not the one that had sex with it's mother at some point is frequently visible, which would be absurd; it is dependent upon how it is treated (including what rules are made and how much attention it gets) by whatever people (mostly adults until 7 or so) it happens to see frequently and/or like.

A 5-year-old cannot "have balance" regardless. A 5-year-old is too young to understand the concept of balance, and will likely not ever be balanced as it is more likely to be excited much of the time, along with angry, confused+angry, or just doing something without thought (such as when at the grocery store in a cart).

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for a kid who's first memories are of the 90's, chances are, he just doesn't give a shit, because he wasn't MADE to.


Nah just you... (and others who agree with you); there seem to be moire and more people now who are interested in peace, things like raising your kids correctly rather then abusing them verbally or forbidding them what they NEED such as a good friend or boyfriend; more people who don't hate somebody for some stupid reason like that they are gay; more people who can feel in nature and in peace - the 2005+ area brings more internet trolls and idiots who say everyone must be stupid and horrible and undeserving of any nice treatment merely because they experience some kind of feeling, but that was the internet, not the experiences of kids (except for kids who go to non-child areas of the internet); if any era started off people being assholes it is the mid-2000s and the beginning of "internet hate".

Of course these kids tend to be stupid and extremely ("Britney's boob job";) materialistic from 2000-era TV/music as well, but I am talking about hate machines in response to "not made to give a shit" atm, not about people being so dumb that they can't spell "you" at the age of 14. Both caused by the same era, though...

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"I HATE mom! One day I'm going to build a space ship and destroy the world with a big laser! That'll show her!"


Perfectly normal, not meant completely serious, and expressing emotion. Breeze was 13, he is obviously not actually intending to do this as a 13-year-old knows that he is not ever going to build a giant fricking laser.

On the other hand you have parents who say, "How dare you talk to me that way! You do not have a right to have emotions! You are a horrible horrible person [insert all kinds of swearing and illogical insults here]! Anyone under the age of 25 is not a human being! How dare you think you have the right to be a human being! I am now punishing you and taking away everything you enjoy just because you had a reasonable reaction to having one thing you enjoy taken away from you!" And these are the kids who grow up to be complete assholes or else severe depression and/or problems with sanity, because their parents thought that their own personal ego was more important the respecting another human being and his basic rights, needs, and/or drives.

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You think the poser-goths (not the real ones) are bad in America, you should see the ones in Europe, good god.


Since Goth is a style of dressing, it is impossible to be a "poser goth". You might be considered that by another Goth if, say, you only wear that style once per month, but the only way one would know that is if you personally knew them and could see what they wear on other days. If this is a style and I am wearing clothes in the style, then clearly I am, for that moment, a human who uses that style.

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They actually do those cartoonist, dramatic, overacted three and a half second sighs LOL.


That sounds like an anime fangirl.

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If we could ressurect him and Mr. Rogers both... somehow take the reproductive fluids of both


Mr. Rogers would not be a good one to model the decision-maker in this matter after. HE think that one must always say "please" and "thank you" "just because" (thereby teaching children to be idiots/assholes who will, if they follow his teachings forever, get mad as an adult just because someone did not say "thank you" to them... for cooking dinner... every single day... just like it is completely normal for them to do... or who would refuse to give you something you desperately need because you did not say "please" even though it would not make much sense to do so. His character thinks that whether or not one wears clothes in general situations is somehow of import. He thinks children should be coddled as though they are not regular human beings, instead of being treated normally and talked to just like you talk to everyone else. He also seems to think that everyone is an idiot; after any "field trip" segment he will repeat everything you just saw in a way that presumes you are *EXTREMELY* stupid, even though any typical child who is THAT stupid would be too young to understand *any* of his show in the first place.

No, Mr. Rogers is definitely not anyone we want deciding who to genocide. In fact he would probably even say that you should not torture rapists...

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Yes, sometimes the parents are more wicked then the kids. Some of them let their children drink beer at the age of 4!


Again... shouldn't we use something just a *bit* more important then this insignificant matter to judge what type of parent somebody is? The first time I had a drink of beer I was 5. I have never, and will never, smoke anything or drink any alcohol that is not for taste/palate pleasure/fun-social (in the same way wearing a certian outfit or liking a certian movie can be fun-social). I have never even smoked marijuana, and that's not even unhealthy! Shouldn't we use something better as an example of a horrible parent... such as someone who forces their children to apologize when they may not actually feel regret, and punishes them if they don't... for not experiencing an emotion? Or someone who consistently calls her 7-year-old daughter (who doesn't know what sex is) a slut and a cunt and a whore and a bitch, every minute of the day? Or someone who yells at and punishes their child for no other reason then the fact that they are crying? Or someone who frequently raid their child's room and throws away random possessions with the pseudo-excuse that "they legally belong to me anyway"? Or someone who screams at their child for ACCIDENTALLY losing something expensive... that the kid bought themselves, with their own money? Or someone who has sex with their pre-pubescent child while still maintaining a non-emotionally/non-physically abusive relationship as parent and child?

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They showed a piece of text from the Bible, saying that the end of the world will come when humans turn away from God, start worshipping Satan, kill other people for no real reason and so.


Humans have been worshipping, or at least having a "relationship" (in their own opinion) with, Satan (also known as Thoth, Enki, Ma'at, Set, Ea, Ptah, Apophis, Ahriman, Iblis, Belial, Shiva, Melek Ta'us, Pan, Azazel, Tiamat and Shaitan) since ancient times, LOOOOONG before the religion of Christianity was even invented. I doubt the worshiping of Satan could bring about the end of the world; otherwise the world ended around 3,000 B.C.E. and we are all an illusion.

If the end of the world was brought by rock music and false backmasking (some songs do have backmasking but very few, the ones that do are easily; for example in "My Name Is...", the backmasking of the title's lyrics say "It's Eminem".), the world would have ended in the 60s.

Extreme and/or biased documentaries must cite legitimate sources in order to be legit.

Krishna is the head god of the Hindu religion, and is in no way related to either Christianity, or monotheism, or Jehovah, or Satan, or devils.

...And here I had thought you were mildly intelligent, Morph.




@PsychoGiga: Yes, people are sheep, that is why they participate in mass ignorance and choose a religion merely because they were told to, rather then studying and gaining knowledge on the subject.

A made-up story of completely unreasonable plausibility does not contribute much to any discussion of topics.


Eminem's early raps were mainly about things like "don't do drugs", or done solely for humor. His more recent raps are mostly about things like his love for his daughter and his struggles growing up.

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We've got kids getting pregnant at the age of freaking 13 (not kidding),


Yes, a few, just like there was in the 90s, in the 80s, the 70, 60s, 20s, and any time before that. More often in the 20s most likely since people were stupider about hoe to treat other family members and such so the kids didn't even know what sex was at 13, thereby making it much more likely to actually happen if they have a boy- or girlfriend.

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Perhaps those preschool shows are sending hidden messages to the kids...I KNEW THEY WERE EVIL!!!! :eek:


And to think, he is probably completely serious...

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If you can be bothered to cook. And once again, we come to the reason they are bad parents to begin with.


Because buying food that is already prepared, or telling your 10-year-old to operate a machine (microwave) that a 3-year-old is capable of operating, or hiring someone to cook for you, or eating healthy diets and raw foods (and therefore not cooking), or eating sandwiches, soup, pizza, and salad MUST MEAN YOU ARE EBIL ZOMG HELP!

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XL size. About 50% of my class back at elementary school has already been to jail once or twice, has done drugs, alcohol, sex, stuff like that.


Just because you live in one of the worst ghettos imaginable does not mean that normal human beings do not exist, at all ages. In fact knowing that the place where you live is completely disgusting and not even close to reflecting normal society, you should be completely aware of this and know definitely that anything that applies to your friends or classmates or area is 100% abnormal for statistics.

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That means their whole life they grew up saying they had it, so eventually, because the brain is so complex, they really did get it.


Um yeah no that doesn't happen. Lying doesn't cause a lie to come true. This is not science fiction. And ADD cannot be caused by thinking that being under the age of 12 is a mental disorder.

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ADD could be a legitimate thing, or it could not, I don't know. It may just be a flighty mind, in which case kids just need to learn how to pay attention.


ADD is real; I've known about 6 people who have it and about 40 who have been diagnoses with it.

The only difference (from the standpoint of a normal human and not a clinical-crap explanation for everything that most of the time doesn't even tell you anything about the disease or the people who have it, such as with functioning schizophrenia) between ADD and ADHD is that ADHD kids are the ones that run around; ADD alone might mean they are more calm or only regularly-energetic, but cannot focus on a conversation or learn to accept boredom.

I think males might be better at just inventing things, because this is most commonly done by "professional chefs" to invent something tasty, which stereotypically are male, and everyone I have personally known that created something REALLY REALLY GOOD just by mixing random things together (one who dos it VERY frequently) are all male.

However I don't think that different aspects of cooking is something that males or females "tend to do better on" then the other. Grilling is nearly impossible to mess up, for example, and most cooking that is not being invented simply involves following a recipe, so can be done by anyone who is intelligent enough to read, measure, do math (if altering serving size), and is not too arrogant to do what it says (I know one guy who thinks that EVERYTHING you EVER cook on the stove can be covered with no problem, because "the laws of physics state that more heat will be kept in this way and that is universally 100% always a good thing regardless of what professional chefs and cooking shows say" and "some things are required to be cooked at low heat, and others need to be heated specifically from the bottom and not from all-around" is somehow not a valid argument in attempting to stop him from forcing the food to burn.)

Edited by God on August 10, 2010 at 10:43:16.

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Geez. Really bad form, God. You wait nearly 5 years to reply to people who may never come back to reply so you can have the last say or laugh. Yeah, that's real smooth...

Stop necro-posting (which includes other topics).

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I think you must live in a bad town Hollow; first this was posted in 2005, before younger people like 16 - 20 became retarded (whereas in any other decade me at 25 and the 18-20-year-olds on campus would still pretty be much be exactly the same in my groups... uh, as they would if it was the group of when I was 19 - 22 (when I was there normally)); slightly before the Reality TV and Justin Bieber takeover was complete.


As someone who was a teenager in 2005, I can attest to the fact that Hollow was dead-on.

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"Mouthing off" is a disgusting thing to say, and you do not have a right to tell anyone how to talk unless it is a personal argument. Of course the ones that go "nigga nigga that guy;s wearing blue i'ma beat yo' ass bcuz u lyke salads" are problems, but in those cases their parents are too (usually) and you likely wouldn't be saying anything to them if they are over like 9. And you most definitely do not have a right to tell any kid to stop doing something unless
-you are the employee somewhere
-it is obvious and universally agreed upon by most that this is bad, it is bad enough to actually matter, and the parent does not know about it and/or isn't close
- (or) it is something the kid is doing to you


Perhaps, but it's perfectly OK to bitch about children being little shits.

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It is not really your decisions whether or not someone else's kid is "old enough" to look at porn/violent stuff/etc., or whether a 5-year-old that is not yours should take off their clothes, or go in the pool with their clothes on, or run a lot, or anything else that is not harmful/obvious.

Drunk 13-year-olds and lots of teenagers randomly and seriously hitting things/people in public is definitely not normal throughout the country.


So then laws that concern the above... are they justified or not?

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You mean the same as it has been for a century, where you rarely might run into someone who is doing things like this....??


True enough. I like how everyone assumes that there's something special about our century, like somehow we've suddenly gained the capacity to be morally bankrupt and our ancestors weren't. Truth is, human nature is sort of a constant.

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Well, this is true, but we should not be killing 12-year-old kids just cause they like alcohol! They could be drinking, smoking, AND doing marijuana and LSD, and still be good kids! Or, they could be bad kids, but not... evil... who will be great people as an adult! We should be killing all the rapists and prostitutes instead, first... there are a LOT of prostitutes, so we may not need any more after that... but then... maybe child abusers... or whatever else one could think of; there are many evil people in the world who do none of these things.... in fact there are MANY people who are evil BECAUSE they think everyone must NEVER do drugs (for example like if Amish people were to spread hate like many non-Amish people with similar beliefs actually do). Or for another example this guy in this house, who has the worst case of EXTREMELY HOSTILE Asperger's Syndrome I have ever seen... he said the fact that this idiot guy was pulled out too far into the street (while waiting to turn from a parking lot) means he is a terrorist....


We could also just, y'know, knock it off with the killing. That's a good option.

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...And what, persay is a male or female "role"? There is nothing different between a male and a female, besides genitalia (and related functioning) and a VERY VERY VERY basic method of brain-processing.


I'd like Breakman to clarify that statement as well--unless (s)he considers this topic to have long since been concluded. I'd argue that "gender roles" are largely social constructs outside of the obvious ones that biology mandates in the reproductive process.

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And whether or not a child "has balance" is not dependent upon whether or not the one that had sex with it's mother at some point is frequently visible, which would be absurd; it is dependent upon how it is treated (including what rules are made and how much attention it gets) by whatever people (mostly adults until 7 or so) it happens to see frequently and/or like.

A 5-year-old cannot "have balance" regardless. A 5-year-old is too young to understand the concept of balance, and will likely not ever be balanced as it is more likely to be excited much of the time, along with angry, confused+angry, or just doing something without thought (such as when at the grocery store in a cart).


Balance may not have been the right word to use, but certainly a 5-year-old can be emotionally healthy, relative to his age and development.

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for a kid who's first memories are of the 90's, chances are, he just doesn't give a shit, because he wasn't MADE to.


Nah just you... (and others who agree with you); there seem to be moire and more people now who are interested in peace, things like raising your kids correctly rather then abusing them verbally or forbidding them what they NEED such as a good friend or boyfriend; more people who don't hate somebody for some stupid reason like that they are gay; more people who can feel in nature and in peace - the 2005+ area brings more internet trolls and idiots who say everyone must be stupid and horrible and undeserving of any nice treatment merely because they experience some kind of feeling, but that was the internet, not the experiences of kids (except for kids who go to non-child areas of the internet); if any era started off people being assholes it is the mid-2000s and the beginning of "internet hate".

Of course these kids tend to be stupid and extremely ("Britney's boob job";) materialistic from 2000-era TV/music as well, but I am talking about hate machines in response to "not made to give a shit" atm, not about people being so dumb that they can't spell "you" at the age of 14. Both caused by the same era, though...[/quote]

The 90s also gave us all sorts of cool stuff, from the freeing of Nelson Mandela, to the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany, to peace in Ireland.

Also Captain Planet. So haters stop hating.

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Mr. Rogers would not be a good one to model the decision-maker in this matter after. HE think that one must always say "please" and "thank you" "just because" (thereby teaching children to be idiots/assholes who will, if they follow his teachings forever, get mad as an adult just because someone did not say "thank you" to them... for cooking dinner... every single day... just like it is completely normal for them to do... or who would refuse to give you something you desperately need because you did not say "please" even though it would not make much sense to do so. His character thinks that whether or not one wears clothes in general situations is somehow of import. He thinks children should be coddled as though they are not regular human beings, instead of being treated normally and talked to just like you talk to everyone else. He also seems to think that everyone is an idiot; after any "field trip" segment he will repeat everything you just saw in a way that presumes you are *EXTREMELY* stupid, even though any typical child who is THAT stupid would be too young to understand *any* of his show in the first place.


This doesn't even make an ounce of sense. Armchair psychology really shouldn't leave the armchair.

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No, Mr. Rogers is definitely not anyone we want deciding who to genocide. In fact he would probably even say that you should not torture rapists...


And he would be right to do so. Torturing a rapist serves no purpose. For one thing, torture is a highly ineffective method of interrogation that leads to flawed and incorrect information just as often as correct information with no way to tell the difference apart from outside verification--which makes it useless and a waste of time, especially when compared to the techniques that actual interrogators use.

And if you're not using it to try and get information, then you're just doing it to inflict pain for pain's sake. And that's fucking messed up. Believe me, Mr. Rogers makes a lot more sense than you do on this point.

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Again... shouldn't we use something just a *bit* more important then this insignificant matter to judge what type of parent somebody is? The first time I had a drink of beer I was 5. I have never, and will never, smoke anything or drink any alcohol that is not for taste/palate pleasure/fun-social (in the same way wearing a certian outfit or liking a certian movie can be fun-social). I have never even smoked marijuana, and that's not even unhealthy! Shouldn't we use something better as an example of a horrible parent... such as someone who forces their children to apologize when they may not actually feel regret, and punishes them if they don't... for not experiencing an emotion? Or someone who consistently calls her 7-year-old daughter (who doesn't know what sex is) a slut and a cunt and a whore and a bitch, every minute of the day? Or someone who yells at and punishes their child for no other reason then the fact that they are crying? Or someone who frequently raid their child's room and throws away random possessions with the pseudo-excuse that "they legally belong to me anyway"? Or someone who screams at their child for ACCIDENTALLY losing something expensive... that the kid bought themselves, with their own money? Or someone who has sex with their pre-pubescent child while still maintaining a non-emotionally/non-physically abusive relationship as parent and child?


I've always wondered what purpose the age laws really serve. From where I'm standing, they really just seem to make alcohol a sort of forbidden fruit, driving teens to drink in secret and without the knowledge of their parents. As a result, they never learn to treat it responsibly.

Anyone from a European country with more relaxed rules: Do you guys suffer from the same drinking problems with your teens?

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Humans have been worshipping, or at least having a "relationship" (in their own opinion) with, Satan (also known as Thoth, Enki, Ma'at, Set, Ea, Ptah, Shiva, Pan, Azazel, Tiamat) since ancient times, LOOOOONG before the religion of Christianity was even invented.


Those people were hardly having a relationship with Satan though, were they? Seems more like they were having relationships with Thoth, Enki, Ma'at, Set, Ea, Ptah, Shiva, Pan , Azazel, and Tiamat. The cosmologies are really incompatible, so to say that all of the deities listed are really Satan speaks to an incredible level of ignorance regarding mythology.

Like seriously, books are fun.

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...And here I had thought you were mildly intelligent, Morph.


OH THE IRONING

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I think males might be better at just inventing things, because this is most commonly done by "professional chefs" to invent something tasty, which stereotypically are male, and everyone I have personally known that created something REALLY REALLY GOOD just by mixing random things together (one who dos it VERY frequently) are all male.

However I don't think that different aspects of cooking is something that males or females "tend to do better on" then the other. Grilling is nearly impossible to mess up, for example, and most cooking that is not being invented simply involves following a recipe, so can be done by anyone who is intelligent enough to read, measure, do math (if altering serving size), and is not too arrogant to do what it says (I know one guy who thinks that EVERYTHING you EVER cook on the stove can be covered with no problem, because "the laws of physics state that more heat will be kept in this way and that is universally 100% always a good thing regardless of what professional chefs and cooking shows say" and "some things are required to be cooked at low heat, and others need to be heated specifically from the bottom and not from all-around" is somehow not a valid argument in attempting to stop him from forcing the food to burn.)

Edited by God on August 7, 2010 at 2:00:34.


True enough. Gender roles still shape our society to an uncomfortable degree. But... what the hell? How can he not get that sometimes low heat is good?


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Um... where did the topic of interrogation come in?

Rape is not extremely messed up?

Since we are talking about people who suggested genocide... the only topic of discussion in response (at least in my reposes) is who, then, should be killed?

Mr. Rogers' character would make a horrible guy to decide. In fact "PC" is where we get half the problems, prejudice and mistreatment from in the first place. Shunning naked bodies? Assuming everyone wants to work a 9 - 5 job or go to a government-sponsered/approved college? Etc.

Now, as for genocide itself: In theory, yes, of course it would be helpful. The world is extremely overpopulated and there are many evil people in the world who should be killed or tortured due to the evil/arrogant/pain they have inflicted on others (either on purpose or without caring).

But in practice? Obviously not.

I have heard that France does not have problems. Could also be because they are likely drinking more wine then beer. Also this is just what I have heard as well as many other people, so it could actually be misconception. But I doubt it.

The names of Satan listed are what most (non-LaVeyan, of course) Satanists (or rather most Satanic churches) seem to believe are the equivalent gods. Pan is very clearly and well-known.....edly, the god that was taken by Christianity to be corrupted as "Satan" (which, as X knows, but in case people read who don't, the being of Lucifer is described in "Holy Bible" as "beautiful" among other things, however, the imagery of the god Pan, with a few "uglifying" additions, is the one you would see in a cartoon about "the devil";). However, some also do believe that the name Satan or Shaitan also did exist before Christianity.

Lucifer and Satan are believed to be separate beings (history-wise etc.).

Since Jehovah commits many severe atrocities, it matters not which version of Satanism one follows, as long as they are not a "Devil-worshipper" which actually has no actual religions in the first place.

I do not find it very intelligent though that some of these chuches sometimes refer to the being they worship (except in Satanic churches where they do not worship any being) as "the devil," since the nature of such religions is in the belief that there is no "devil".

Azezal tends to be specifically as Satan, with no other mythologies that I know of.

People that are not Satanists, but hold basically their exact same beliefs, tend to identify with Thoth or Ma'at, (gods of knowledge) among others (whether they "worship" them or not).

Of course when referring to the Christian concept of Satan as "evil", many of these gods would not fit. However, many believe the concept to have come from Set as with the "war between god and evil".

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...I implore you to go and read his post there =\.

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Um... where did the topic of interrogation come in?


That's one of the common justifications of torture. Of course, it's a lot like saying you should let the village drunk have a taxi service because he might not crash or throw up on the passengers.

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Rape is not extremely messed up?


Yes, it is. I don't believe I said otherwise.

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Mr. Rogers' character would make a horrible guy to decide. In fact "PC" is where we get half the problems, prejudice and mistreatment from in the first place. Shunning naked bodies? Assuming everyone wants to work a 9 - 5 job or go to a government-sponsered/approved college? Etc.


The connection between those and Mr. Rogers is tenuous at best, but don't let me interfere with the hatedom.

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Now, as for genocide itself: In theory, yes, of course it would be helpful. The world is extremely overpopulated and there are many evil people in the world who should be killed or tortured due to the evil/arrogant/pain they have inflicted on others (either on purpose or without caring).


Torture serves no purpose other than to inflict pain for the sake of pain. It's not a good thing.

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I have heard that France does not have problems. Could also be because they are likely drinking more wine then beer. Also this is just what I have heard as well as many other people, so it could actually be misconception. But I doubt it.


In France they party like it's 1790.

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The names of Satan listed are what most (non-LaVeyan, of course) Satanists (or rather most Satanic churches) seem to believe are the equivalent gods.


I've just always found it annoying when one group presumes to tell another group the identity of the god they were actually worshiping. It just comes off condescending.

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Pan is very clearly and well-known.....edly, the god that was taken by Christianity to be corrupted as "Satan" (which, as X knows, but in case people read who don't, the being of Lucifer is described in "Holy Bible" as "beautiful" among other things, however, the imagery of the god Pan, with a few "uglifying" additions, is the one you would see in a cartoon about "the devil";).


That's less a case of Pan becoming Satan and more a case of tradition and lore taking attributes from Pan and applying them to Satan. It wasn't direct copypasta.

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However, some also do believe that the name Satan or Shaitan also did exist before Christianity.


It did; he appears in the book of Job. That's Old Testament.

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Lucifer and Satan are believed to be separate beings (history-wise etc.).


This gets complicated. See, you take a verse in Job that talks about "the Satan", and a verse about a "falling star" (believed in modern theology to be referring to a contemporary empire) which the KJV translated as "Lucifer" and now you have two distinct characters. Over the centuries, the two slowly blended together into the one being.

The whole Lucifer thing comes out of that KJV-styled translation plus literature and stories creating Lucifer's prideful fall. It's not easy to tie that back to scripture.

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Since Jehovah commits many severe atrocities, it matters not which version of Satanism one follows, as long as they are not a "Devil-worshipper" which actually has no actual religions in the first place.


I'd rather not get into YHWH's "crimes". Since it seems opposed to his nature later on, suffice to say I've wondered if those accounts that play up his wrath were entirely accurate accounts, or slightly biased propaganda accounts.

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I do not find it very intelligent though that some of these chuches sometimes refer to the being they worship (except in Satanic churches where they do not worship any being) as "the devil," since the nature of such religions is in the belief that there is no "devil".


Isn't that part of what separated actual Satanism from "omg im liek so rebel" Satanism?

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Azezal tends to be specifically as Satan, with no other mythologies that I know of.


He's a bit of an enigmatic character of Hebrew mythology, to be sure. But you're right, he is tied to Satan. It's often thought that Azezal is something of a prototype of what would become Satan in Christian mythos.

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People that are not Satanists, but hold basically their exact same beliefs, tend to identify with Thoth or Ma'at, (gods of knowledge) among others (whether they "worship" them or not).


I would have gone with Horus, Egyptian god of Rock.*

*The Egyptians didn't have rock, so this additional part of Horus's portfolio was understandably never played up in stories. The same goes for Set's additional role as god of Twitter.

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Of course when referring to the Christian concept of Satan as "evil", many of these gods would not fit. However, many believe the concept to have come from Set as with the "war between god and evil".


I'm not sure it's anything remarkable. You see this kind of dualistic conflict throughout several religions.

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...I implore you to go and read his post there =\.


Yeah, I don't really hold to a Millenial Dispensationalist worldview of the end-times. So... yeah, I think Morph's a bit off.


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Okay, put all the hurricane disaster stuff to the side, and whatever other crisis' we're having around the world. I'm not talking about any of that. o.o

What I'd like to ask is..

Is it just me, or is the general attitude of persons 16 and under..really ridiculous? Maybe I just haven't seen any young kid do anything helpful, but they just seem so egotistical. Arrogant. Spiteful. Emotionally unstable.

Yeah okay, I know that puberty brings on stuff like that..but I'm talking about 10 year olds too. They don't respect others, property, law officials.. It's also great when you see a drunk 13 year old hanging out with college kids. :rolleyes: And of course I LOVE it when I tell a bratty kid to stop hurting something/hitting something/mouthing off/disrespecting others and the mother/father tells me that I'm not the parent even though I'm acting more like one than they are. What the hell is going on?

Maybe I just live in a bad town, though. :lol: Any of you have to deal with anything like this? I know alot of you are around this age, but I'm sure there might be kids at your school that are like this. Or maybe you're like this. :o
Heh you should see where I live. When I was little, the kids were tolerable and fun to hang out with, excluding a few minor exceptions.

Now I see the newest generation of kids in my neighborhood..--- Total Punks. I see this one little turd flipping his own mom off, caught one vicious little brat trying to throw a hubcap at my 19-year old kitty-cat, and this vietnamese realtor that just moved in keeps calling the city on me for the dumbest reasons.. (could be due to me calling immigration on his 20 illegal tenants though =P )

Naturally, I blame television for destroying young minds.

(some TV is okay, but it's nothing but biased crap today!)

that and modern Hip-Hop. And Acorn. LOL

 

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