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its just awesome!! I want you all to go see it!!:miam:


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British Accent: It was a little long, but jolly good fun!

I predicted the Lion coming to life, Edmund surviving, Peter being a holy dude, etc. etc. etc.

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For anyone who doesn\'t know about Narnia, the entire series of books is an allegory of the gospel.

Meaning you\'ll get a very Christian message from the movies. If that ain\'t your cup of tea, consider that your fair warning.


Most of the \"Christan messages\" are far older than Christanity.


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For anyone who doesn\'t know about Narnia, the entire series of books is an allegory of the gospel.

Meaning you\'ll get a very Christian message from the movies. If that ain\'t your cup of tea, consider that your fair warning.


Most of the \"Christan messages\" are far older than Christanity.


What, you mean the allegory of Christ is far older than Christ?

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For anyone who doesn\'t know about Narnia, the entire series of books is an allegory of the gospel.

Meaning you\'ll get a very Christian message from the movies. If that ain\'t your cup of tea, consider that your fair warning.


Most of the \"Christan messages\" are far older than Christanity.


What, you mean the allegory of Christ is far older than Christ?

I imagine Samsara\'s referring to all the usual stuff he refers to. The \"Christianity borrows stories and miracles from everywhere\" bit.

I might see the movie when I go Christmas shopping, I dunno.


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For anyone who doesn\'t know about Narnia, the entire series of books is an allegory of the gospel.

Meaning you\'ll get a very Christian message from the movies. If that ain\'t your cup of tea, consider that your fair warning.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL!1111111111

Seriously. WTF? I never saw /any/ Christian message in the books that I read. Then again, I\'m dense as a brick. It takes a while for me to get something. :P

And there\'s this stupid flame fest between CoN and LOTR fans. Whatever, it\'s just something interesting to read, don\'t be so silly!


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By Christian message, I mean of course that you\'ll be being preached the Gospel. The entire series of books is an analogy of Christianity.

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Hmm. Weird.

I guess I *am* dense. X_x


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Specific Christian parallels may be found in the entries for individual books and characters.

The Chronicles of Narnia contain many allusions to Christian ideas which are easily accessible to younger readers; however, the books are not weighty, and can be read for their adventure, colour, and mythological ideas alone. Because of this, The Chronicles of Narnia have become favourites with both children and adults, Christians and non-Christians.

Although he did not set out to do so, in the process of writing his fantasy works, Lewis (an adult convert to Christianity) found himself incorporating Christian theological concepts into his stories. As he wrote in Of Other Worlds:

\"Some people seem to think that I began by asking myself how I could say something about Christianity to children; then fixed on the fairy tale as an instrument, then collected information about child psychology and decided what age group I\'d write for; then drew up a list of basic Christian truths and hammered out \'allegories\' to embody them. This is all pure moonshine. I couldn\'t write in that way. It all began with images; a faun carrying an umbrella, a queen on a sledge, a magnificent lion. At first there wasn\'t anything Christian about them; that element pushed itself in of its own accord.\"

Lewis, an expert on the subject of allegory, himself maintained that the books were not allegory, and preferred to call the Christian aspects of them \"suppositional\". This is similar to what we would now call alternative history. As he wrote in a letter to a Mrs. Hook in December of 1958:

\"If Aslan represented the immaterial Deity in the same way in which Giant Despair represents despair, he would be an allegorical figure. In reality however he is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question, \'What might Christ become like, if there really were a world like Narnia and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?\' This is not allegory at all.\" (Martindale & Root 1990)

With the release of the 2005 Disney movie there has been renewed interest in the Christian parallels found in the books. Some find them distasteful, while noting that they are easy to miss if you are not familiar with Christianity.(Toynbee 2005) Others see the chronicles as an excellent tools for evangelization (Kent 2005), providing a seemingly innocent opening for conversations aimed at converting people to Christianity.

EDIT: So not an allegory, I guess. But still a paralell.

[Edited on 12/12/2005 by Mega X.exe]

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Oh, I thought it was another one of those deals where it has NOTHING to do with Christianity but some tools think that it does.

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Oh, I thought it was another one of those deals where it has NOTHING to do with Christianity but some tools think that it does.

*pets CTrigger* I will get you correctly translated one day, my pet.


I\'m not getting the CT relavence, unless someone said that CT was an allegory of Christianity, which would only work if you compared Chrono to Jesus, and let\'s face it, the protagonist returning from the grave is a very popular plot element.

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I\'m hoping to see this movie this week.

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Alright, I\'ve seen it just a while ago, and I can tell you: BEST. MOVIE. EVAH! After a list of about 10 other movies... ^_^;;

I really liked the ending, but...

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my brother kept saying the guy in the red coat with the presents, sleigh and reindeer was the professor! How rediculous is that?! It\'s SANTA, for God\'s sake.

Some things could\'ve been done more realistic, I think. I mean: LUCY HITTING THE RED AREA ON THE FIRST TRY?!
Or how about that wolf Peter \'killed\'? He literally JUMPED onto his sword!


Still, I loved it. Lucy is one cute girl! She reminds me of a neighbour. >_>
My fave character was the fox. ^^;


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I believe that\'s part of the power of her bow, Morph.

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my brother kept saying the guy in the red coat with the presents, sleigh and reindeer was the professor! How rediculous is that?! It\'s SANTA, for God\'s sake.



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I think maybe your brother is more right than you think. There is certainly more about the professor than meets the eye.

BTW, why was this (and your comment) in spoiler code?


X, I think that The Chronicles of Narnia are easier to believe the Bible, anyway :P


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Well if the Bible was easy to believe, there\'d be no point in faith, now would there?

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I think maybe your brother is more right than you think. There is certainly more about the professor than meets the eye.

BTW, why was this (and your comment) in spoiler code?


X, I think that The Chronicles of Narnia are easier to believe the Bible, anyway :P


Have you read the books? The first one of the series? (Not the first to be written.) Then you\'d know there\'s ALOT more to him than meets the eye of the average viewer.

Why in a spoiler? Bleh.

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Maybe I just like them. Maybe I just didn\'t want to have hyperactive people suddenly think it\'s a G4WD D4NG X-M4HZ M0V31!!1!


@Mega X: Err... Susan had the bow. Lucy had the dagger. >.>


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Just for the dense people the obvious Christian element is

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the whole stone tabale thing Aslan plays Jesus first he was tortured then they put him on it meanwhile his followers (Lucy and Susan) are watching) Lucy and Susan cry for an unknown amount of time Aslan comes back to life, also Edmund played Judas Hiscariot with the whole scene with him talking to the witch in her house where he talks about where Aslan is


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I think maybe your brother is more right than you think. There is certainly more about the professor than meets the eye.

BTW, why was this (and your comment) in spoiler code?


X, I think that The Chronicles of Narnia are easier to believe the Bible, anyway :P


Have you read the books? The first one of the series? (Not the first to be written.) Then you\'d know there\'s ALOT more to him than meets the eye of the average viewer.

Why in a spoiler? Bleh.

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Maybe I just like them. Maybe I just didn\'t want to have hyperactive people suddenly think it\'s a G4WD D4NG X-M4HZ M0V31!!1!


@Mega X: Err... Susan had the bow. Lucy had the dagger. >.>


Er...irregardless, isn\'t the power in the bow?

[Edited on 1/4/2006 by Mega X.exe]

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Considering how Peter skewers that wolf and is able to fight and all, I would simply presume that all of their weapons and equipment gave them those abilities.


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I\'m not getting the CT relavence, unless someone said that CT was an allegory of Christianity, which would only work if you compared Chrono to Jesus, and let\'s face it, the protagonist returning from the grave is a very popular plot element.


There was an entire website devoted to how Crono is Jesus. It was really disturbing. :lol: The dense moron running the site of course didn\'t realize that the english version was a translation, and therefore the script could have been quite different in its original form. And the characters that had a close tie in with the bible (Melchoir, Balthazar, and Gaspar especially) were the translated names and put there by said translator. Frog doesn\'t even speak formal japanese, so who knows why the translator made him speak with that accent. :rolleyes:

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I remember reading The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe when I was... 11? Pretty much my brother\'s age. Read it cause my Grandma always sent me books to read (yes, I was and still am a bookworm), and I liked it. Been so long that I\'d forgotten most of the book, \'cept for the part with Edmund first meeting the White Witch, though I did like it. Didn\'t get to read the other books though.

As for the movie, I really loved it. It looked completely awesome, though the acting was... Alright, I guess. Felt something was missing, especially during the parts where Lucy was supposed to be crying. Since I don\'t really remember the book, I can\'t say how closely it follows it. But it was a good movie, a favorite, and I liked the effects. I\'d suggest it to people, though I\'m not the best judge of movies ^^;;


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The books may not be a alligory but there ARE heavy Christian symbolisms in them.

The story is a a remix of the Christian Bible really. The White Witch being Satan, Aslan being the creator/saviour, the kids being the desciples, and so on. The huge battle is very simular to the Revelations war between Iehova and Lucifer in Heaven.

Like X said, not an alligory but a paralle of sorts. Not really my cup of tea. I\'m passing on this just like I did on Passion of the Christ.


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Ewwww Passion of the Christ... Stupid Mel Gibson. This Narnia actually looks kinda cool though. The White Witch looks pretty cool too, I knew she had to be satanic. :lol:

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I thought the movie was quite good. Actually, surprisingly, it sticks to the book quite well. It\'s been awhile since I read it, but I have a pretty good memory. There\'s no question as the the Christain symbolizm in it, of course- the author himself has stated that that\'s what he intended. Obviously, I have no problem with that, but for the people who don\'t like it- it\' still enjoyable in its own right. I do think that the acting in the movie has a little to be desired, but heck, there was this really OLD version of the movie I saw when I was a kid, and if any of you have had the misfortune to see that, then this seemed like the best thing in the world! x_x

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Yeah, I don\'t see how people couldn\'t like fluffy animals out in the snow. :lol: So what if it\'s symbolism, you probably won\'t even notice it.

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There\'s no question as the the Christain symbolizm in it, of course- the author himself has stated that that\'s what he intended.

Actually, he stated that ISN\'T what he intended, it just came out that way even though he wasn\'t trying to. Funny, Hollow said the same thing, unless he was being more sarcastic then it looked. Read that again...

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Like X said, not an alligory but a paralle of sorts. Not really my cup of tea. I\'m passing on this just like I did on Passion of the Christ.


The advantage to Narnia, though, is that with Narnia, you can take it as a Bible-paralell, or a story in itself, it is really up to the reader.

Speaking of which, has anyone read \"The Cronicles of Blarnia: The Lying Bitch in the Wardrobe\" by Michael Gerber? :lol: