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Saddam
I\'m Saddam.
Saddam I am.

I do not like you,
Uncle Sam.

Uncle Sam
Would you like
to bomb Iran?

We\'ll sell you weapons,
despite the ban.

Saddam
I would not like to bomb Iran!
Praise be to Allah, and Koran!

Those weapons are
against convention...

Uncle Sam
Never mind Geneva,
pay no attention!

We hate Iran,
it\'s our contention.
We have no qualm,
no apprehension!

Saddam
I\'ll give this task
to Ibrahim.
He\'ll make a plan!
He\'ll plot a scheme!

Uncle Sam
Business as usual
with your regime.

Saddam
My inner circle
is full of turds.
Is it any surprise
that we\'d gas the Kurds?


Uncle Sam
We knew you gassed them
in \'88.
We weren\'t concerned
\'til you raided Kuwait.

Saddam
You caused my invasion
to be abated,
I\'m now on
your list of
most hated.

Alright, you win.
I\'ll withdraw.
I\'ll also kill
my son-in-law.

Uncle Sam
With so little blood
spilled on
your soil,
your plot was much
too easy to foil.


???
Could this war
have been for
oil?

Uncle Sam
What is this sound?
What is this treason?

Reason
Don\'t mind me,
I\'m the voice
of reason.

Now you\'ve started
another war,
in time for
the election of
2004.

Uncle Sam
We won this war
without a hitch!

You hippies have
no right to bitch!

Reason
But won\'t this war
make Bechtel rich?

Uncle Sam
Who would you
hire to repair
Iraq?
Germany? Russia?
Or Jacques Chirac?

Reason
This debate is
tedious and may
go on forever.

Uncle Sam
To document it
in rhyme
is a tremendous
endeavor.

Reason
Perhaps it\'s best
to let it die.

Justification is
in the
beholder\'s eye.

Uncle Sam
What will
the media report
without a war?

Real news is such
a dreadful chore.

Reason
Shark attacks,
SARS, invasion
from Mars.

Terrorism,
sports cars, and
Hollywood stars.

Uncle Sam
Until we declare
war on
North Korea,
we\'ll have to
settle for this
journalistic
diarrhea.

Reason
This discourse
could go on, but
what\'s the use?

Uncle Sam
It\'s just a tribute
to Dr. Seuss.

(A big thanks to Maddox for the time and effort he spent making this.)

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Hah, friggin\' awesome.

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OMG IT\'S ACTUALLY FUNNY >.>

[Edited on 12/21/2005 by God]

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I didn\'t like it. Not funny at all. Racial really. I am Iranian and a Muslim, so I don\'t find that funny. Iran does not have \"weapons of mass destruction\" and isn\'t using nuclear power to make any. Yeah, I don\'t like how my president is saying the things he is saying, but why the hell would he bomb us? There is no reason to do so without proof. Any proof? Nope.


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I didn\'t like it. Not funny at all. Racial really. I am Iranian and a Muslim, so I don\'t find that funny. Iran does not have \"weapons of mass destruction\" and isn\'t using nuclear power to make any. Yeah, I don\'t like how my president is saying the things he is saying, but why the hell would he bomb us? There is no reason to do so without proof. Any proof? Nope.

BZZZT! Wrong! Incorrect! The correct wording is, \"I am uptight and don\'t know what a joke is, so I got offended.\" See, this is in that other thread >_>.

If there was something like this on black you\'d see them laughing too... either that or finding it unintresting. X is a Republican and he\'s Christian, but he\'s smart enough to find something funny if it\'s about Christians or Bush-bashing (unless he just finds it unintresting). READ THE JOKE!! IT\'S EITHER FUNNY OR IT\'S NOT!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU\'RE OLD, BLACK, CHINESE, POLISH/BLOND OR *gasp!* MUSLIM! Comics are designed to be funny. Nothing else. And if they\'re designed to take a political stand, they\'re still designed to be funny. Just showing the people\'s opinions. Unless they\'re not. But then those wouldn\'t be posted as a joke. And I doubt this one is the latter (the first latter).

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Thats pretty funny though a bit raciast.

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I didn\'t like it. Not funny at all. Racial really. I am Iranian and a Muslim, so I don\'t find that funny. Iran does not have \"weapons of mass destruction\" and isn\'t using nuclear power to make any. Yeah, I don\'t like how my president is saying the things he is saying, but why the hell would he bomb us? There is no reason to do so without proof. Any proof? Nope.

BZZZT! Wrong! Incorrect! The correct wording is, \"I am uptight and don\'t know what a joke is, so I got offended.\" See, this is in that other thread >_>.

If there was something like this on black you\'d see them laughing too... either that or finding it unintresting. X is a Republican and he\'s Christian, but he\'s smart enough to find something funny if it\'s about Christians or Bush-bashing (unless he just finds it unintresting). READ THE JOKE!! IT\'S EITHER FUNNY OR IT\'S NOT!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU\'RE OLD, BLACK, CHINESE, POLISH/BLOND OR *gasp!* MUSLIM! Comics are designed to be funny. Nothing else. And if they\'re designed to take a political stand, they\'re still designed to be funny. Just showing the people\'s opinions. Unless they\'re not. But then those wouldn\'t be posted as a joke. And I doubt this one is the latter (the first latter).



Why don\'t you go ***** yourself? Do you think that I am dence enough to not know that was a joke? Did I not read people replying that was funny god **** it?!?!?!? YES I DID!!!!!! EVERYONE HAS A GOD DAMN OPINION **** ***!!!!!

Sorry, I edited it for language.

[Edited on 22-12-2005 by Zera]


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Dude, calm down,take a chill pill, or just relax. What ever you do just do it before you go crazy. That\'s a good way to get people to hate you ya know. I should know, I was kind of like that. But I changed. just try not to get banned alright?

P.S.

Really? Could\'ve fooled me, with the way you were acting. :lol:

[Edited on 22-12-2005 by Jaden Yuki]

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Why should people hate me over that... (won\'t say). Anyways, he didn\'t take the second to think \"Hmm... that might offend some people, plus Zera has an opinion.\" Nope, instead he went right ahead and acted like a.... BTW: I have an opinion too like I said before, X isn\'t the only one. He says his opinion of things comically, I give me opinion of that verbally.


EDIT: What are you talking about Jaden?

[Edited on 22-12-2005 by Zera]


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BZZZT! Wrong! Incorrect! The correct wording is, \"I am uptight and don\'t know what a joke is, so I got offended.\" See, this is in that other thread >_>.


Oh stuff a cork in it you holier-than-thou all-day sucker.

Zera is part of a group that has had a LOT of troubles lately, you cannot fault him for reacting in this way..infact he very well could have reacted alot worse. Personally I didn\'t find it offensive, because it seemed to be taking a stab at Bush and his pals more than the Middle East. But hey..it\'s all perception.

And \"it\'s just a joke\" shouldn\'t be used as an excuse. Of course this isn\'t a stab at X\'s original post, I personally have no qualms with it. I just think Zera should be able to voice his opinion without getting told it\'s \"wrong\" for a completely inane reason.

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Sounds sensible enough, but I don\'t think the \"it\'s a joke\" thing was an excuse or anything. But really, Zera did not have to act the way he did, it just seems childish to me.

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His second reply was hotheaded yes, but he got flamed. I know you wouldn\'t reply with smiles and rainbows if someone flamed you, now would you?

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His second reply was hotheaded yes, but he got flamed. I know you wouldn\'t reply with smiles and rainbows if someone flamed you, now would you?


If you mean if someone was being rude to me then yes because I\'ve dealt with that almost all my life.

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Yes, that\'s what flaming on the internet is, being rude/crass. There was a difference between you and Zera though.. You\'d lash out for barely any reason.

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Yes, that\'s what flaming on the internet is, being rude/crass. There was a difference between you and Zera though.. You\'d lash out for barely any reason.


What do you mean?

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I say just do it! No one would miss it...I mean except Zera right...besides it would be fun to watch it blow up!:devil:

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I didn\'t like the poem, but others do. It was a joke poem, but I didn\'t laugh. What can I say? ^^; Zera, you\'ll have to put up with others and try to chill. I know it\'s hard but try. It takes practice... B) Of course, that doesn\'t excuse others for being rude but fighting will not help anything (well, on the internet for sure).


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I say just do it! No one would miss it...I mean except Zera right...besides it would be fun to watch it blow up!:devil:


That is a totally inappropriate. Go read the rules right now. B/

[Edited on 22-12-2005 by Breakman]

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It... was a joke poem? o.0
Meh, in a way, it was funny. One could feel offended by it, like Zera was, but I wasn\'t. More like pointing out the whole thing about Saddam and Bush and how foolish it was. Well... that\'s what I think. >>

To Trigger, I say: Shut up! That was really not a good thing to say. Lay it off.

And Zera, chill a bit now. In was not meant to offend anybody. Perhaps a few dudes-on-high-places. Right. Right?


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[quote]Originally posted by Zera

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I didn\'t like it. Not funny at all. Racial really. I am Iranian and a Muslim, so I don\'t find that funny. Iran does not have \"weapons of mass destruction\" and isn\'t using nuclear power to make any. Yeah, I don\'t like how my president is saying the things he is saying, but why the hell would he bomb us? There is no reason to do so without proof. Any proof? Nope.

BZZZT! Wrong! Incorrect! The correct wording is, \"I am uptight and don\'t know what a joke is, so I got offended.\" See, this is in that other thread >_>.

If there was something like this on black you\'d see them laughing too... either that or finding it unintresting. X is a Republican and he\'s Christian, but he\'s smart enough to find something funny if it\'s about Christians or Bush-bashing (unless he just finds it unintresting). READ THE JOKE!! IT\'S EITHER FUNNY OR IT\'S NOT!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU\'RE OLD, BLACK, CHINESE, POLISH/BLOND OR *gasp!* MUSLIM! Comics are designed to be funny. Nothing else. And if they\'re designed to take a political stand, they\'re still designed to be funny. Just showing the people\'s opinions. Unless they\'re not. But then those wouldn\'t be posted as a joke. And I doubt this one is the latter (the first latter).



Why don\'t you go ***** yourself? Do you think that I am dence enough to not know that was a joke? Did I not read people replying that was funny god **** it?!?!?!? YES I DID!!!!!! EVERYONE HAS A GOD DAMN OPINION **** ***!!!!!

Sorry, I edited it for language.

[Edited on 22-12-2005 by Zera] [/quote]

I agree with you. It\'s not a good idea to make jokes like \"should we bomb ___.\" Whether it\'s Iran, US, or wherever else.

I can understand why Zera got offended by the careless joke, and sometimes things are offensive because they are jokes. Maybe God is the dense one for not seeing that.

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X is a Republican and he\'s Christian, but he\'s smart enough to find something funny if it\'s about Christians or Bush-bashing (unless he just finds it unintresting).


Actually, when I did that thread on George Bush and the One Ring, he reacted in a simlar way to Zera. :P


[Edited on 22/12/05 by Samsara]


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So...you\'re calling me offsensive, when you once told me to kill my cat because cats are satanic, and that wasn\'t even a joke?

This joke isn\'t saying we should bomb Iran, Iran\'s only mentioned at the beginning. Besides, as I recall, that\'s historical. We did give Saddam weapons to fight Iran many years ago. The entire rest of the poem is a criticsim of the Iraq war.

And as for the post you referenced, Samsara: For starters, that was a long time ago. I believe I was still butting heads with Hollow at the time, and besides. There\'s a difference between saying that Bush\'s reasons for the war may not have been entirely altruistic, and insisting that a fake picture is real, and that Bush really does wear the ring, and is therefore and idiot.

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No, but the first time nobody was attacking her. But she;s still the only one who broke the rules (I didn\'t actually flame or excessively swear). OBVIOUSLY you know it is a joke, but you are still acting ike a d*ck about it, saying, \"I don\'t appreciate that and I am offended.\" You can have your opinion, but there are times when your opinion is an incorrect way to act. Such as, \"Rapists shouldn\'t be punished because I believe they are right to act this way.\" Yours wasn\'t on the same level, but it\'s still an example of an \"opinion\" that isn\'t acceptable. Because, really, it\'s more of a way of acting then an opinion. Just about ALL funny jokes are either bashing a group of people in some way or sex jokes. The rest are just, \"What time should you go to the dentist?.\"

And, of course you woudln\'t stop to think, \"Will this offend someone?,\" because, therre are so many people out there that get offended by STUPID things (like \"Merry Christmas\" and this joke) that if everybody did that all the time, no one would ever say anything.

And when I said if it WAS intended to state a political opinion, it wouldn\'t be X\'s t would be Maddox\'s, but I also said I thought it wasn\'t that way. And I also saw it bashing Bush not the other countries, but I didn\'t say anything because I don\'t follow politics and don\'t FULLY understand every part of it and could have been wrong.

And, uh, I\'m not dense (at least not in this situation), I just think people are stupid to get offended by something unless it was specifically intended to offend (like certian types of jokes on LPRs/\"emo,\" or possibly some political comics that would get published in an EDITORIAL not (usually) on the INTERNET but it that case it would be a \"flame because I disgaree and your opinion makes you a jackass\" not an \"I am offended\").

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Actually, when I did that thread on George Bush and the One Ring, he reacted in a simlar way to Zera. :P

Ah, I didn\'t see or msut have forgotten that, but I have seen him react genially to Christian jokes and think they\'re funny/stupid himself, and I remember making a note of it, so that\'s what I was remembering from.

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This joke isn\'t saying we should bomb Iran, Iran\'s only mentioned at the beginning. Besides, as I recall, that\'s historical. We did give Saddam weapons to fight Iran many years ago. The entire rest of the poem is a criticsim of the Iraq war.

I believe I\'ve already said this, but that\'s what I thought it was, another reason Zera\'s reaction was stupid but I didn\'t mention it at the time. Note the voice of reason.

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For the love of crap Zera and God( the user) Shut up and stop flaming.
I in all honesty think this is an interesting thing Mega.X sorry if it offends you Zera but to be perfectly honest with you Mega x. you may want to delete this before this turns into a huge huge bunch of spam.


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Flaming and SPAM are two differenet things. Just for the record :P.

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I don\'t care about Mega X.exe, he just wanted to make people laugh, and I didn\'t. And so, I just posted my opinion on it. I do NOT need someone critisizing (sp?) my opinions. Everyone sees things differently, so I can too. If I wanted someone to come back and get all technecall (sp?) about my opinions, I wouldn\'t have posted it at all. Nobody asked you to come and tell me what he was saying, I\'m not stupid to not know. BTW, everyone who backed me up, thanks. Mega X.exe, the way you have an opinion like me, I don\'t care about what you said about my country. You\'ve been my friend since I came years nearly 3 years ago. Also, my dad was in that war.

Also, I am not a girl. I am a 12 year old boy. I was not aware Zera was a girl\'s name when I joined Interordi.

Lastly, I only flamed (I guess...) because \"God\" made me angry. Like Hollow said, you can\'t expect me to post positvly after \"God\" comes out of nowhere and critisizes (sp?) my opinions.

[Edited on 22-12-2005 by Zera]


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So...you\'re calling me offsensive, when you once told me to kill my cat because cats are satanic, and that wasn\'t even a joke?

This joke isn\'t saying we should bomb Iran, Iran\'s only mentioned at the beginning. Besides, as I recall, that\'s historical. We did give Saddam weapons to fight Iran many years ago. The entire rest of the poem is a criticsim of the Iraq war.

And as for the post you referenced, Samsara: For starters, that was a long time ago. I believe I was still butting heads with Hollow at the time, and besides. There\'s a difference between saying that Bush\'s reasons for the war may not have been entirely altruistic, and insisting that a fake picture is real, and that Bush really does wear the ring, and is therefore and idiot.


What? I never meant to imply that you were being offensive. I meant that you need to be careful about posting things like that on a muti-cultural board.

I know that Iran is only mentioned at the beginning, and isn\'t the main subject of the whole lot of it. Either way, bombing Iran is mentioned, therefore, it is not entirely unreasonable to assume that some Iranian, if they were to read it, may be offended.

And I know that the \"One Ring\" thread was a long time ago and I only mentioned it because God stated that if this happened, but you were in Zera\'s position, you would react entirely differently. However, at the time, you reacted similarly to Zera.

And I don\'t actually remember advising you to kill your cat. Only to put a bell on the collar.

X, I apolgise for any offense you received when you read my post. I didn\'t mean to offend you.


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I just think people are stupid to get offended by something unless it was specifically intended to offend


Note keywords \"I\" and \"think\". Your word is not factual, therefore you have no business saying Zera is wrong for his opinion. You can think he\'s \"stupid\" all you want, but he is not wrong. I\'m not going to bother replying to the rest.. :P

As for Airman and X, well it\'s obvious you two are still on edge. I suggest making jokes about it like X and I do, haha. Infact people may not realize it, but 90% of the time I appear to be angry in replies, but I\'m laughing it up in real life.

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Yeah, I always have a hard time getting over grudges, but once I do...watch out. :D

Anyway, I want to make it clear that I didn\'t even write this. I saw it on Maddox\'s webpage--it\'s worth noting that he has Zal\'s attitude and has Wind\'s talent to offend (about 10-fold, actually)--and I found it funny, and thought that people here would too. And even if Samsara wasn\'t trying to imply that I didn\'t think about who would be reading, that is in fact, exactly what happened.

I apologize for any offense felt by Zera, it was not my intention in the slightest. I also apologize to Samsara for both taking his post as an attack, and for misremebering our debate. (Your exact quote was in fact, \"They can destroy wildlife and they do. Yet people can stop it. They don\'t even have to kill the cat. All they have to do is attach a bell to the collar of the cat.\")

And I\'d like to say that I have changed in several ways since that One Ring topic, though I\'ve stayed exactly the same in others. :P

Anyway, now that we\'re done misunderstanding, let\'s talk about how many times this poem has caused Seuss himself to turn over in his grave.

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For the love of crap Zera and God( the user) Shut up and stop flaming.


\"Shut up\" would be considered as flaming by several people, so your post doesn\'t carry out a very positive message by itself.


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I thing that it\'s about time we all stop misunderstanding and/or flaming eathother and actually discuss what the poem is actually supposed to mean, or whatnot.

Either that, or this topic should be locked. I think it\'s already done enough damage :lol:


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Doesn\'t matter, no flaming. It doesn\'t matter whether you get mad or not; if it did, it wouldn\'t be a rule. and yes, of COURSE we can expect you to post appropiately because it is not that hard to do so.

If you simply find it not funny, that is okay. If you found it offensive, that is not oay. But by saying, \"I am Iranian and a Muslim, so I don\'t find that funny,\" you are implying that you are offended, because if you were not, finding it funny or not would have nothing to do with what nationality or religion you are.

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Note keywords \"I\" and \"think\". Your word is not factual, therefore you have no business saying Zera is wrong for his opinion. You can think he\'s \"stupid\" all you want, but he is not wrong. I\'m not going to bother replying to the rest.. :P

But you can\'t deny that some opinions are wrong. Not wrong as in, \"non-factual,\" but wrong as in they are not okay to have. Such as \"It is okay to rape someone.\"

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Infact people may not realize it, but 90% of the time I appear to be angry in replies, but I\'m laughing it up in real life.

I suppsoe I have that probelm too, on some boards, but to me it\'s pretty easy to tell when the person is actually angry... or at least appears to be. Angry people rarely use a :P emoticon :P.

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\"Shut up\" would be considered as flaming by several people, so your post doesn\'t carry out a very positive message by itself.

I\'ve never heard of \"shut up\" as flaming... it generally requires an insult. If you want to enforce it in some other way, maybe you should include that in the rules...

[Edited on 12/23/2005 by God]