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I can\'t help it, I busted up laughing when I read the 3rd link! I, personally, haven\'t had much to do with emo\'s, I never met one or anything. I have seen them all over the place in school, though. Gimme more info, I find this funny...however sad it is that the person is the way it is. Goths are similar to emo\'s, aren\'t they?


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You are completely right Windy. Emos are just cowards that can\'t face the real world so they blame it on others. If they can\'t live a life everyone else is living, then yes, they DO deserve to die. Retarded if you ask me. If you say you are unwanted, then go away. Hey, you said it yourself jack***.

Oh and Windy, I love you too. Come back soon!

[Edited on 25-1-2006 by Zera]


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Y\'know, it sounds like emos thrive on attention, don\'t they?


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Dude, can I get a poster of you, or something?

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Leave this poor chick alone man. I mean, I admit I really don\'t want to completely read either of the deals, hers and yours, aye, but both seem to be in for attention. I did like you did and read the first paragraph of each or so.


And I really don\'t ki-zare. I\'m an asshole too man, highfive, but you\'re just looking for shit to rant about it looks like to me.

For the record for yo punk ass, Emily Dickenson wrote emo poems with illogical grammar and punctuation and she\'s famous. Famous like a fox.

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It doesn\'t matter if Wind continues to pester or not. She\'s an ostrich with her head in a hole, she will just continue to be an idiot no matter what anyone does.

And yes she is being an idiot. Why? Because...unless she\'s paraplegic and typing with her tongue, there\'s not much to be emo about. Most of these kids don\'t even know what it\'s like to be in pain, or at the end of your rope. It\'s just funny.

Mmm..the kids defending her were a laugh riot. I have been through this quite a few times as well. No, your critique wasn\'t nice but there wasn\'t a need to blow a gasket over it.

I honestly do wish DA would filter out the kiddies that don\'t want critiques, just ban them all. This is the internet. It\'s public. When you put your art/poetry/stories/face/etc in public it WILL be criticised. Don\'t want critiques? Don\'t show it to the public. It is THAT simple. But alot of people aren\'t too intelligent when it comes to this.

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“Dashboard Confessional is that bad!”

~ Oscar Wilde on Emo

“I tried to feed the emos once, they tried to bite me!”

~ Oscar Wilde on emo feeding

Emo from emocore; a boy/girl who likes to cry and say that your life\'s banana, only much less dark, and much more Harry Potter. Or you could just say they\'re emotion punks that like to slit their wrists while listening to Simple Plan. \"Emo is a cheap, bad imitation of goth.\"

The word emo comes from an English corruption of the word emu, used to denote a sound like that of an emu\'s death squawk.

Ex: As the sixteen-ton piano collapsed onto Ms. Crabtree\'s joyless septegenarian body, she let out a horrendous emo that was heard miles away.

Nowadays, the term refers to a sub-genre of fag whining music invented by accident by maverick comedian Emo Phillips. This genre of music is widely acknowledged to be a particularly virulent form of crap.

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Exactly, it doesn\'t matter if he continues to pester her. It\'s what I\'m saying, it looks like this was uncalled for.

Live your life the way you want, if this chick wants to be retehded, let her. It\'s none yo business. I get it, people don\'t generally like goths or emos, and there\'s a lot of them, bitching doesn\'t help though. Bitching is just annoying. I\'ve heard this same speech several times. No point if it doesn\'t have a purpose.

And it doesn\'t.

Try and be more positive towards people. Let them indulge in their vices and let them continue doing the habits they like. When is it right to give someone shit when they want to write a poem?


Most emos/goths are just pseudo tormented souls that trick themselves into thinking their life is horrible, but you\'re just gonna make them more emo Hollow. You\'re contributing to the problem! OH SHIT. o:

[Edited on 25-1-2006 by Gutter Mouth]

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Strangely enough, a lot of these things sound like certian people I know.

I laugheded out loud when I read the third link too, Giga, since Wind has specifically mentioned Slipknot in a particular debate with a dude on another message board who got mad because he thought Wind's original LPR post said "Slipknot sucks." Strangely enough, though, this guy's problems seem to be real. He's just an idiot for thinking there is a reason to get defensive when someone else doesn't like his favorite band.

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Most emos/goths are just pseudo tormented souls that trick themselves into thinking their life is horrible, but you\'re just gonna make them more emo Hollow. You\'re contributing to the problem! OH SHIT. o:


Hmmmmm lets see if I care..

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LOL Elburito, I haven\'t had a single laugh today. Good job :D


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Damn Hollow, you just joined me and Wind in being assholes. Ha ha.

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lol, she took her poems down...

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Believe it or not but the \"emo\" scene wasn\'t always like this. Emo (in the 80\'s) used to be a offshoot of hardcore punk with more guitar oriented melodies. The early bands didn\'t really do anything too different than those of the hardcore scene. They drank, did the drugs, and wrote songs about not fitting in. They dressed pretty much the same as hardcore, too. They wore all the stuff that they wanted from big shorts to business suits.

And with all those there were a few about romance (tell me one band that hasn\'t done one). This much later (as in recently) became all bands of this sub-genre\'s writing style. As time moved on (from the death and then revival in 2002 or whatever) the song structure got a lot more generic and uninspired. This is the \"emo\" we know today.

Emo cannot be classed as music with emotion for this is all music. All music exists to say something or make the listener feel something. The type we know today is sooooo far from it\'s roots that it really shouldn\'t be considered the same thing.

Where the name came from:

X = incorrect. As with all new waves of music (no matter how small) there is someone that will coin a name that sticks to it. I forget who it was that said it but they referred to it as a wave of emotionally charged hardcore bands. That name over time fell to simply emo.

I find it amusing how a group of people that started off with the idea of self freedom and the \"I don\'t care what you say\" attitude evolved into a group of overly socially conscience sheep.


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Although I partially agree with you Wind, I didn\'t like that you had to have a real living example...

To start off, I really don\'t like these \"Emos.\" It\'s like... they don\'t have very much of a vocabulary. (Hea, I should say for myself, but at least I use a thesaurus...) Most of all they say are curses and expletives... but...

If Emos are like depressed people, I suggest a heavy dose of sunlight, earphones with cheery music, and keeping busy with something you like (drawing, writing, puzzles, or something light). It sounds stupid and silly, but it sometimes works getting out of a depressed state (or at least calm down for the hours).

Of course, usually people who are depressed don\'t feel like doing anything but crying, feeling bad, and such. But if they want to get better, they have to first have a need to get out of the state of hopelessness...

Sometimes the best advice is from people who straight out tell you that you have a problem. But hopefully, the people who comment still have dignity and (in a way) have some sort of respect.

But you know, I don\'t know if a \"warped\", believer of a higher power person like me should be giving advice.

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Forgive me if this seem a bit Flame-ish. But... YOU PEOPLE SUCK!:@
Most of you know me, I\'m a fairly respected member of the S.S. CalmWaters, and am kind to almost every member I meet. But, I can\'t help realizing how much you people stereotype!
Dang it! Where\'s darkanchemy001 when ya need her?!
I saw someone say some bad crap about Goths:mad: Don\'t diss Goths and/or Punks.

Read my 2nd post on that page.

I think someone said that Goths & \"Emos\" are the same. That is stereotyping.
And Wind, I\'m kinda pissed at you right now. I still respect you as a poet, cause you are indeed a great writer... However, you have a foul mouth, and little concern for other people from what I can tell from your replies to ~Forget-my-past:mad:

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I think someone said that Goths & \"Emos\" are the same. That is stereotyping.


That\'s true. Not all Goths are like these Emos. I think Emos could be from any type of group, though.

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Don\'t diss Goths and/or Punks.


Who then? I only diss people who diss me. These people who called themselves \"EMO(tional people)\"... yeah, they ARE, but you should ask yourself one thing: in what way? You can be emotional like: \"geez i hate evrybodi teh wolrd socks lets go be emo\". Those are the people I want to keep off my lawn.

Goths and Punks? Hey, the ones who don\'t bother me, I don\'t bother. I just hate Marilyn Manson with his facism of Christianity. Where and when in the name of all that you could hold holy is or was Christianity facistic? Alright, people weren\'t always considered equal and gay people used to be burned alive. But that\'s WAY in the past (though some people still not consider everybody as \'equal\').


BTW, the dude who is most GOTH of all, is Micheal Jackson. First his body was black, then he fell asleep in an acidic bath and when he woke up his body was white, but his soul was... well... really dark pink?


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GASP, Wind has little concern for people since he talked badly to a few foulmouthed idiots that were blindly (and hypocritically) defending a emo that didn\'t even need defending? It\'s just funny that you called him foulmouthed when THEY attacked him with words first.

Because they\'re hardcore. :rolleyes:

Goths are emos that wear makeup. REAL goths are a whole \'nother bowl of cereal. But I only know of one real goth in all my encounters..and they\'re so different than the usual goth you see around town. It\'s just stupid..you say they\'re not the same, but they both have the exact same crap in common.. And why should we give any kind of respect to people who scream \"DON\'T JUDGE ME!!!!\" every 5 minutes and end up hating you just because you don\'t like an emo band?

And Morph, about Manson.. It\'s sad that you take him seriously, honestly. Manson is the biggest joker in rock now, he loves making up crazy stories and being as controversial as possible...he does this for theatrics and shock value. And of course for attention. Folks like you give him his well-deserved attention..he works hard enough. :lol: He goes to church with his parents for Necro\'s sake. And oh...side note there? Gay people are still being killed because they\'re gay. And I see no damn equality wherever I go.

And if you think Wind is bad, Juno..you haven\'t seen me in action. :D

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THe truth is Wind brings a point. Alot of People decide that they need a special EMO version of themselves to appear cool. Now, because of Linkin\' Park\'s popularity that number can only keep rising. Think this over, half of today\'s \"Rock\" bands play EMO songs so that they can look incredibly cool and eventually make illusions that they lead exciting yet troubled lives.


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Listen very closely I don\'t have problems with Goths it\'s just the fact that the EMO craze went far enough to bring them back into context. I don\'t hate the fact they are back I hate the fact that EMO is causing people to turn into things they really aren\'t.
Example(this is real): My friend considers himself a goth yet still keeps Motivational posters hanging on his walls. *ding* my point exactly.


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Being goth is actually.... religion of sorts if you care to look at it that way. But that type of goth is next to extinct.


I know lots of goths, and hardly any of them are suicidal or self harming or in any way masachistic or even close to emo.

I know one \"emo\". I say \"emo\", but the only emo thing about him is that he likes Linkin Park (among others). He doesn\'t act emotional, let alone depressed, so in what sense he is an \"emo\", I\'ll get back to you on.

However, emo as a music style, I pretty much hate above all music styles, even that crap chavs like.

About Marilyn Manson, yeah, I think he\'s a bit of a twat, too. If I like something, I like it for the music. As far as Marilyn Manson goes, the music is second to image, which is why I have very little respect for him.


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Breakman. A living example is the best example.


Yea but in an argument like this, you would probably want a held constant subject than a changing one. (Most of the links are dead now.) I doubt you asked her permission to reproduce her quotes and link to her works. It\'s like she\'s some lab rat in your experiment... ^^; I am positive there are books on the subject.

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Ah, breakman, such a harsh term... labrat... I like to think of her more as... Guinia Pig :D.

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PS. I love my online psychology college courses :D :D:D


Actually, I was going to use that word but I couldn\'t spell it correctly (and spell check doesn\'t help)! ^^;;

I could see that you love your classes. ^^; I\'m currently talking a philosophy class. All about analyzing arguments... I guess I\'m trying out my novice skills. ^^;

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There\'s nothing wrong with Emo in my eyes.
(other than the fact that ALL music is emotional)
The thing I have a problem with is how all these teenyboppers come out of nowhere are start bitching about their life \'cause it\'s the cool thing.

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Okay Juno, settle down. What I said was that what goths have BECOME is emo. I used to know a "true goth" and he was actually a pretty happy and content dude. Just liked his mascara a bit much.

He wasn't referring to you. Somebody DID say goths and emo were the same thing; I remember seeing it and disagreeing. I forgot who, though.

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I doubt you asked her permission to reproduce her quotes and link to her works.

She posted them publicly on the internet, therfore they are public knowledge. The only expception is if somebody specifically says "Do not use this for any other purpose," (for instance, an avatar created because a friend of theirs wanted to look original).

I was sure there was something else I wanted to comment on...