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1day 22hours and 43min left till the Wii is shown in all of its glory!

Tell me how do you guys feel about the final "secret" for the Wii, are you pumped for it? Does it call to you? Do you need it to survive?

Also what are you all most looking forward to next year? The Wii, the PS3.....the ummm X-Box spin around? :lol:


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I'm not really excited, since I don't think that it will be that big of a thing anymore. Backward compatibility, small console, motion-sensing controller... What else could be in store? My bet is that it's related to the emulation of previous games. While they mentionned it several times before, they didn't go into much details yet.

As for "most looking forward to", the Wii gets my vote. I mean, the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are mere upgrades. There's nothing really special there.


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Right on, Doc! We're sure to win if the Wii has your support!

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Wii has my support too, with some of the reasons of Ta Doc

just because it's Nintendo gives me enoegh reasons, no matter what reviewers say about it.

i don't give much about graphics, gameplay is important if you want a good game, and the Wii has interesting gameplay, at least that's my opinion


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What gets me is the number of PS2 fanboys who bash the Wii for its graphics, but they seem to overlook the just plain abismal graphics of the PS2.


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What gets me is the number of PS2 fanboys who bash the Wii for its graphics, but they seem to overlook the just plain abismal graphics of the PS2.


Sony and Xbox fanboys both try their uhh.."best" to bash anything Nintendo (or anything not made by "their" company of course), but they usually only make fun of the Revowii's controller.

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What gets me is the number of PS2 fanboys who bash the Wii for its graphics, but they seem to overlook the just plain abismal graphics of the PS2.

Don't forget that the PS2 was the first console of this gen to have been released, so it's kinda normal that it has bad graphics at this point.

I'm sure that in 5 years, everyone will say that the 360 has bad graphics as well.


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Don't forget that the PS2 was the first console of this gen to have been released, so it's kinda normal that it has bad graphics at this point.


Bzzt, wrong. The Dreamcast was the first by two years. It was early, yes, but definitely part of this generation.


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I am just getting the Revo. for Super Smash. The graphics for the PS3 loook real nice though. PS people have the right to bash Wii for its graphics.


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Don't forget that the PS2 was the first console of this gen to have been released, so it's kinda normal that it has bad graphics at this point.


Bzzt, wrong. The Dreamcast was the first by two years. It was early, yes, but definitely part of this generation.


That would be the Sixth Generation, would it not?

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What gets me is the number of PS2 fanboys who bash the Wii for its graphics, but they seem to overlook the just plain abismal graphics of the PS2.

Don't forget that the PS2 was the first console of this gen to have been released, so it's kinda normal that it has bad graphics at this point.



The graphics were't an awful lot better than the N64's :huh:

saiyanprince5, it's not the bashing of the consoles. It's the plain hypocresy. "I like the system with the worst graphics since the N64, but I'm going to bash your personal choice for buying the Wii because it has the worst graphics." :huh:

To be perfectly honest, though, I think the whole thing is kind of sad, actually. Being fanboys to a company which is only interested in the money in their pockets is somewhat pathetic :huh:


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What gets me is the number of PS2 fanboys who bash the Wii for its graphics, but they seem to overlook the just plain abismal graphics of the PS2.

Don't forget that the PS2 was the first console of this gen to have been released, so it's kinda normal that it has bad graphics at this point.



The graphics were't an awful lot better than the N64's :huh:

saiyanprince5, it's not the bashing of the consoles. It's the plain hypocresy. "I like the system with the worst graphics since the N64, but I'm going to bash your personal choice for buying the Wii because it has the worst graphics." :huh:

To be perfectly honest, though, I think the whole thing is kind of sad, actually. Being fanboys to a company which is only interested in the money in their pockets is somewhat pathetic :huh:

True but at least Wii will be cheaper than most. O! :lol:


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What gets me is the number of PS2 fanboys who bash the Wii for its graphics, but they seem to overlook the just plain abismal graphics of the PS2.

Don't forget that the PS2 was the first console of this gen to have been released, so it's kinda normal that it has bad graphics at this point.



The graphics were't an awful lot better than the N64's :huh:

saiyanprince5, it's not the bashing of the consoles. It's the plain hypocresy. "I like the system with the worst graphics since the N64, but I'm going to bash your personal choice for buying the Wii because it has the worst graphics." :huh:

To be perfectly honest, though, I think the whole thing is kind of sad, actually. Being fanboys to a company which is only interested in the money in their pockets is somewhat pathetic :huh:


Today's PS2 graphics are A LOT better than the N64's. Heck, from what I've seen, unless you have a HDTV, your new 360 looks only a bit better than the original X-Box.

Besides, if you look at the hardware, the Wii doesn't have a whole lot going for it except for the controller...and even that's debatable *coughcd-icough*


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i just saw about half an hour of the Nintendo Press conference, it rocked. The Wii is going to OWN all others.


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Besides, if you look at the hardware, the Wii doesn't have a whole lot going for it except for the controller...and even that's debatable *coughcd-icough*


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Besides, if you look at the hardware, the Wii doesn't have a whole lot going for it except for the controller...and even that's debatable *coughcd-icough*


you stop with that CD-i business this second. Just because the CD-i had something that LOOKED like a remote doesn't mean it had anything at all that the Wii has. it has motion sensors, it can detect speed, tilt, twist, up, down, left, right, forward, back. It detects moement in 3D space and that's one hell of a lot more than I can say about the CD-i controller.

PLUS the games look very good, I just watched the E3 press conference and I saw the new mario game(Mario galaxy) Red Steel, some game with a hue hammer, and a game about fighting nature and they all looked perfect. Then I got to see Twilight Pirncess in all its glory and wow it looks better than several 360 games I've seen so far and it's for cube.

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I would liek you all to look at this screen I took while watching a Wii video today...what do you think about it?

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I would liek you all to look at this screen I took while watching a Wii video today...what do you think about it?

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Nothing too exciting there: children often make weird faces like this.


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I'm not talking about the kid with the retarded face, I'm talking abotu the fact rayman is NOT in the screen!! and it's like that for like 8 seconds of video!

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What the hell..so Rayman just leaped out of the televison? ;)

And again, all who don't like the controller...you can still use Gamecube controllers with the system, and there's also the option of just plugging in the joystick attachment.

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That would be the Sixth Generation, would it not?


I usually don't include portable systems because it's much harder to define: considering the original GameBoy's lifespan, where does it fit? Along with the NES, SNES or N64?

Besides that fact, your list looks valid.


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To be perfectly honest, though, I think the whole thing is kind of sad, actually. Being fanboys to a company which is only interested in the money in their pockets is somewhat pathetic


That's a funny thing to say in a Nintendo fanboy topic...


As I said in the PS3 topic, gimmicks, gimmicks, and more gimmicks. This Wii/Revolution controller isn't new technology, yet people are going head-over-heels on it. Calling it "new", "fresh", or "revolutionary" are not accurate words. Remaking old ideas is the right phrase.

And I find it extremely funny Nintendo fanboys saying they never gave Tennis (or fishing, for that matter) games a second of their time before, but now with this controller, they find the game soooo fun. *rolls eyes* XD Oh great Nintendo! Save us from our boring lives!

Edited by Breakman on May 10, 2006 at 9:09:15.

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That would be the Sixth Generation, would it not?


I usually don't include portable systems because it's much harder to define: considering the original GameBoy's lifespan, where does it fit? Along with the NES, SNES or N64?

Besides that fact, your list looks valid.


Original Gameboy? Third generation, along with...

Nintendo Entertainment System/Nintendo Famicom
1985-1995: U.S. 1987-1996: Europe 1983-2003: Japan 1990-present: Nigeria

Sega Master System
1986-1991: US 1987-1989: Japan 1987-1996: Europe 1989-present: Brazil

Atari 7800
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Amstrad GX4000
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Commodore C64 Games System
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history of video games, the 8-bit era was the third generation of video game consoles, but the first after the video game crash of 1983 and considered by some to be the first "modern" era of console gaming. Although the previous generation of consoles had also used 8-bit processors, it was in this time that home game systems were first labelled by their "bits". This came into fashion as 16-bit systems like the Sega Genesis were marketed to differentiate between the generations of consoles.

During the era, the Famicom (short for family computer) became very popular in Japan. The NEC PC Engine also gained a large following, enough to support several versions of the hardware. The Famicom's American counterpart, the Nintendo Entertainment System, highly dominated the gaming market in North America, thanks in part to its restrictive licensing agreements with developers. Though the NES dominated the market, the Sega Master System (which was popular in Brazil and Europe), and the Atari 7800, were also major players during this era.

The post-crash 8-bit era saw the first console role-playing video games, and was the birth of the side-scroller. Editing and censorship of video games was often used in localizing Japanese games to North America. It is the era when many famous video game series, and the characters starring in them, originated. Some notable examples include Super Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, Dragon Quest, Metroid, Mega Man, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Final Fantasy, Phantasy Star, and Bomberman.

This generation is often mislabeled as the "First Generation" as it is the start of video gaming as it is today.

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What gets me is the number of PS2 fanboys who bash the Wii for its graphics, but they seem to overlook the just plain abismal graphics of the PS2.

Don't forget that the PS2 was the first console of this gen to have been released, so it's kinda normal that it has bad graphics at this point.



The graphics were't an awful lot better than the N64's :huh:

saiyanprince5, it's not the bashing of the consoles. It's the plain hypocresy. "I like the system with the worst graphics since the N64, but I'm going to bash your personal choice for buying the Wii because it has the worst graphics." :huh:

To be perfectly honest, though, I think the whole thing is kind of sad, actually. Being fanboys to a company which is only interested in the money in their pockets is somewhat pathetic :huh:


Today's PS2 graphics are A LOT better than the N64's. Heck, from what I've seen, unless you have a HDTV, your new 360 looks only a bit better than the original X-Box.


Today's PS2 is different to yesterday's? Or are you referring to the PS3? And where does the XBox come into this? (For the record, I don't own a 360, and don't plan on buying one either, so whoever's it is, it won't be *my* new 360).

I'm just saying that people tend to be hyporcritical about what they criticise, but turn a bling eye to their own fanboy-product (in this case PS2) when it comes to that exact same aspect which they were criticising the other for (in this case graphics).

I mean hell! The Wii and the PS3 aren't even out, yet! I'm surprised how few people can actually decide which of the three existing consoles is best for them by playing all three, as I have!

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To be perfectly honest, though, I think the whole thing is kind of sad, actually. Being fanboys to a company which is only interested in the money in their pockets is somewhat pathetic


That's a funny thing to say in a Nintendo fanboy topic...



You mean I automatically called half of the people reading this pathetic? Meh, possibly. :huh:


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Today's PS2 is different to yesterday's? Or are you referring to the PS3? And where does the XBox come into this? (For the record, I don't own a 360, and don't plan on buying one either, so whoever's it is, it won't be *my* new 360).


Er...have you even looked at the first games for PS2 and the PS2 games that come out today? It's always been like that for consoles, the first games don't exploit the full capabilities of the system. As time goes by, the developers manage to get a hang of the system's graphical capabilities and do amazing things. It's been like that since the PS1/N64 war (not sure if the Saturn actually fits in it).

I brought the X-Box/360 into this because that's basically what's happening. The first 360 games look like late X-Box games (unless you have HDTV) for the reasons I stated above.

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I'm just saying that people tend to be hyporcritical about what they criticise, but turn a bling eye to their own fanboy-product (in this case PS2) when it comes to that exact same aspect which they were criticising the other for (in this case graphics).


That always happens, but don't forget that PS2 came out before the GC and the X-Box. That's why it's graphics look like crap compared to those two right now, since the PS2 reached it's graphical peak (while the GC and X-Box haven't reached it yet).

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I mean hell! The Wii and the PS3 aren't even out, yet! I'm surprised how few people can actually decide which of the three existing consoles is best for them by playing all three, as I have!


People go where the games go. From what I've seen so far, the PS3 has more games that interest me (MGS, Amored Core, Gundam, etc). Wii has an interesting concept, sure, but from what I've seen, no games except Super Smash Bros managed to keep me interested.

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The PS2's graphics have never been great. Not when it first came out, not two weeks ago, not even the games out now.


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People go where the games go. From what I've seen so far, the PS3 has more games that interest me (MGS, Amored Core, Gundam, etc). Wii has an interesting concept, sure, but from what I've seen, no games except Super Smash Bros managed to keep me interested.



SO what you're telling me is that NONE of these games look good to you?

Activision
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
Marvel: Ulatimate Alliance
Call of Duty 3
AQ Interactive
Boxing Action

Atari
Dragon Ball Z Budokai: Tenkaichi 2

Atlus
Trauma Center: Second Opinion

BANPRESTO
Family action game


Buena Vista Games
Disney's Chicken Little: Ace in Action Disney's Meet the Robinsons

Capcom
Resident Evil series


D3Publisher
SIMPLE series
Original Action Game

Eidos
Title TBD

Electronic Arts
Madden NFL '07
Medal of Honor Airborne

EPOCH
Title TBD

From Software
Action Game

Genki
Title TBD

Hudson
Bomberman
Flight game

JALECO
Title TBD

Koei
Sengoku Action

Konami
Elebits
'Soccer game

Majesco
Bust-a-Move Revolution


Marvelous Interactive / Natsume
Harvest Moon Heroes
Legend of the River King original simulation

Mastiff
Mr. D Goes to Town

Midway Games
The Ant Bully
Happy Feet


Milestone
New vertical scroll shooting game
New Action Game

MTO
Character Action game
SAN-X All-star Revolution

Namco Bandai
Final Furlong
Mobile Suite Gundam
Digimon
One Piece Ulimited Adventure
New action game
New RPG
Tamagotchi
Title TBD

Nintendo
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Excite Truck
Fire Emblem
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
Super Mario Galaxy
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Sports

SEGA
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
Sonic Wild Fire


SNK
Metal Slug Anthology

Spike
Necro-Nesia
Jawa


Square Enix
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors

Taito
Turn it around!
Let's go by train!
Cooking Mama -Cooking with International Friends-

Tecmo
Super Swing Golf Pangya

The Game Factor
Title TBD

[]bTHQ[/b]
Avatar: The Last Airbender
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
Disney/Pixar Cars

TOMY
Action Game
Battle Action


Ubisoft
Open Season
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel


Vivendi Universal Games
Title TBD

Warner Bros. Interactive
Entertainment Title TBD


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Speaking of which, yeah. The Saturn fits in the PSX/N64 generation. Secondly, I only say about 5 games that interested me.

Lastly, I'll get a picture or two later today, but I've seen the Wii's "main" controllers, but remote and SNES style. I can get used to that change.

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Probably about 4 games, one which will probably never get released here (Mobile Suit Gundam) while 2 of those are Nintendo titles and the last one (RE) will get released on PS3 anyway.

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