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'kay, so Capcom just announced Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, and I've got a question.

I'm not a fan of most fighting games. I played the heck out of Castlevania Judgment, and I'm currently enjoying Dead or Alive Dimensions, but it pretty much stops there. As such, there's something I don't quite understand: who is purchasing those games again and again?

A new MvsC release might be a bit unexpected, but Street Fighter IV is being milked shamelessly. The game was released, what, a year ago and we're already on the third or fourth iteration (I've lost count). Who's planning to buy a new version, when it amounts to little more than being an expansion pack that you can't play with people using the older version? With games like Starcraft and Diablo, updates and balance fixes and being pushed without requiring people to buy a new package every year or so.

I know that, if I wanted to buy those games, I'd wait some time after the release for a price drop and the announcement on a better version. Whenever said new version would come out, I'd wait to see if another one is on the horizon... Eventually, knowing myself, I wouldn't buy any of the batch.

Now, please explain to me: who's buying those things?


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Leaked Roster

No Mega Man. Despite X being the most requested character back on the polls on the Capcom Forum a while back.

"Not an ideal fighter, because he uses a gun."

BTW, Pheonix Wright.

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Teej is already aware.

That said... they say X isn't an ideal fighter... so they give us a lawyer.

Capcom, stop raping my mind.


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That said... they say X isn't an ideal fighter... so they give us a lawyer.

Capcom, stop raping my mind.


Glad to see I'm not the only one who made that connection.


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It's like they want the Mega Man franchise dead.

EDIT: And among the Capcom entries is also Nemesis, of RE3 fame!

Whose portrait for the game shows him... USING A GUN.

*repeated headdesk*

Edited by RisingDragon on July 20, 2011 at 17:34:13


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Maybe Capcom does want the Megaman series dead. While it'd be a senseless thing to do, they probably don't really need Megaman that much anymore.


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Does Capcom do that "BUY THE GAME USED AND BE FORCED TO BUY THE ONLINE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10 DOLLARS"

I'm interested but can never see myself buying it new.

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Does Capcom do that "BUY THE GAME USED AND BE FORCED TO BUY THE ONLINE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10 DOLLARS"


Not as far as I know at this point, so I think the game will escape that fate. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened soon enough on future releases, though.


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The content in each new iteration of Street Fighter IV (and most Capcom fighters) is typically worth it. Balance is an extremely important aspect, so when changes are made, players will often want to buy them. It helps that new characters and features are often added.

If you're into these games competitively, you're pretty much forced to buy each new iteration, because if you're not, you will not be able to compete because you do not have the newest version of the game in your possession. I know Capcom has certainly milked SF4 with three different versions (and possibly a fourth coming up in 2012), but it really isn't done without reason, and in my opinion, it's always been worth it. Each new iteration has improved upon the last.

There were serious problems with MvC3 and I am really happy that they're doing a second version, that will ideally work on the issues that its predecessor had, all while adding new and interesting content. At $40, I'd say it's fair. It sucks that it's coming out so early, though; makes me feel like I beta tested the game for $60.


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Capcom did say that there'll possibly be some sort of bonus for the people who got MvC3 before when they get UMvC3.


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Capcom did say that there'll possibly be some sort of bonus for the people who got MvC3 before when they get UMvC3.


"Get two exclusive outfits for Ryu!"

Too often, I find that modern games tend to use pointless bait like this to get the attention of possible buyers, and to increase pre-orders. With that said, if they do come up with a decent bonus for releasing another version so quickly, then more power to them.


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Capcom did say that there'll possibly be some sort of bonus for the people who got MvC3 before when they get UMvC3.


"Get two exclusive outfits for Ryu!"

Too often, I find that modern games tend to use pointless bait like this to get the attention of possible buyers, and to increase pre-orders. With that said, if they do come up with a decent bonus for releasing another version so quickly, then more power to them.


Yeah, hyped up "bonuses" for preordering things (particularly from GameStop) have really become a staple in the video game industry in the past few years. It's a little ridiculous, but it's nice to get any bonuses at all.

Also, the real bonus for me will be not having to deal with Level 3 XF Dark Phoenix and Wolervine + Akuma 50/50ing you to death.
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http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jul/21/niitsuma-briefly-explains-why-mega-man-isnt-umvc3/

"Out of all of the requests we got for Capcom characters, he just didn’t enter the top part of the ranking. Unfortunately, he didn’t make the cut."

http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/27076341/DLC_Polls_Round_2_(Pleas

1)Mega Man X 2568 +542 (34.07%)
2)Phoenix Wright 2116 +251 (28.07%)
3)Strider 1865 +671 (24.74%)
4)Gene 1194 +82 (15.84%)
5)Frank West 1112 +2 (14.75%)
6)Vergil 1110 +38 (14.73%)

(Bolded=They're in the official roster)
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Not to mention X was the top most requested character in a Japanese poll done a while back.
http://img231.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70684_MvC3NicoNicoDouga_122_468lo.jpg#

I just don't know what the hell Capcom is doing.

You'd think with the massive outcry for Mega Man Legends 3 and his apparent demand to be in MvC3, that there's obviously still a massive market of Mega Man fans to capitalize off of, at the very least.

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Apparently, he and Gene from God Hand made it to the character selection "finals" (so to speak). Christian Svensson added that Mega Man is not dead and is still "a very important brand for them". Also, according to Niitsuma, there will be a bonus for anyone with MvC3 save data on their console.

UMvC3 will be at EVO this year, which I am attending, so I'll be sure to try some stuff out.


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Has anyone ever thought that they're just doing this to spite Inafune? I mean, he did have a falling out with them, and Megaman is (nearly) entirely his, so.

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One of the more popular theories is that the grumpy ol' Capcom CEOs would rather kill themselves than have Inafune be listed in the credits of any future games.

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With Rock in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, I was kinda looking forward to a new MML game...but anyway, I'll most likely get UMvC3 only for Nova and rocket raccoon.

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One of the more popular theories is that the grumpy ol' Capcom CEOs would rather kill themselves than have Inafune be listed in the credits of any future games.


Dang, can anyone tell me how much I missed in my offline exploits? I start working and the megaman series gets blown to hell...


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Dang, can anyone tell me how much I missed in my offline exploits? I start working and the megaman series gets blown to hell...


Check the topics on the cancellations of Mega Man Universe and Mega Man Legends 3. That should give you an idea on what happened!


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Overall it's sad how much Capcom's shitting on their customers these days. MvC3 fans are REALLY getting shortchanged by UMvC3.


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Not really. Considering all the new characters were supposed to be DLC at first. For 5$ each.

5 X 12 = 60.

The new game is at 40 and has balance changes, graphical overhaul, improved netcode, etc.


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Balance changes and improved netcode and such can all be done for free using patches--like every other game company does. You're getting a few new stages, a few new characters (half of which no one even knows or cares about), and one single game mode.

A game mode, which I must stress, that only allows you to view other people's games, and was in fact promised to be free DLC for the first game.

So no--you're getting screwed. Especially when you compare it to Super Street Fighter IV, in which you got several new game modes plus 10 new characters, among other things, as an addition to Street Fighter IV. In essence, you're paying $100 dollars for one incomplete game.

All this is is Capcom testing the limits of its fanbase and they're gonna get away with it because there's going to be people out there who'll eat this up, all because of Phoenix Wright being a playable character.

Edited by RisingDragon on August 7, 2011 at 15:30:24


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Balance changes and improved netcode and such can all be done for free using patches--like every other game company does. You're getting a few new stages, a few new characters (half of which no one even knows or cares about), and one single game mode.

A game mode, which I must stress, that only allows you to view other people's games, and was in fact promised to be free DLC for the first game.

So no--you're getting screwed. Especially with you compare it to Super Street Fighter IV, in which you got several new game modes plus 10 new characters, among other things, as an addition to Street Fighter IV. In essence, you're paying $100 dollars for one incomplete game.

All this is is Capcom testing the limits of its fanbase and they're gonna get away with it because there's going to be people out there who'll eat this up, all because of Phoenix Wright being a playable character.


I agree with this, although I gotta say, someone has been watching Angry Joe videos. :P

It sucks that they're abusing one of the greatest communities out there (I mean really, look at all the EVO footage!) by releasing another game so early, fully knowing that we will infact buy it. The fighting game genre is one of the few types of games where you can do something like this, get away with it, and get that money.


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I've actually only seen the one video from him, but he's pretty much on the mark in that video--Capcom fans are getting shit on by the company lately.


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Balance changes and improved netcode and such can all be done for free using patches--like every other game company does. You're getting a few new stages, a few new characters (half of which no one even knows or cares about), and one single game mode.


SNK doesn't do it. Arc System Works did it, but you had to buy the characters anyway. Capcom didn't do it with SSF4AE.

And for characters, it all depends on personal tastes. Personally, I'm hyped as hell for most of the characters on the Marvel side. Nova, Rocket Raccoon, Doctor Strange, Ghost Rider.

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A game mode, which I must stress, that only allows you to view other people's games, and was in fact promised to be free DLC for the first game.


Eh? They kept saying how spectator mode was impossible in MvC3. I doubt that they said it'd be a free DLC.

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So no--you're getting screwed. Especially when you compare it to Super Street Fighter IV, in which you got several new game modes plus 10 new characters, among other things, as an addition to Street Fighter IV. In essence, you're paying $100 dollars for one incomplete game.


Characters people rarely use anyway. Watch any fighting game stream for SSF4 (not AE) and tell me the number of Hakans, Juris, Codys, T.Hawks, DeeJays, Makotos, etc that you see.

Game modes no one played either. No one played tournament mode. No one played Team Battle. Everyone was on Ranked or Endless Battle.

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All this is is Capcom testing the limits of its fanbase and they're gonna get away with it because there's going to be people out there who'll eat this up, all because of Phoenix Wright being a playable character.

Edited by RisingDragon on August 7, 2011 at 15:30:24


I don't get why people want Phoenix Wright in a fighting game. What's he gonna do? Argue his opponents to death?


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I believe the "PHOENIX FOR NEW FIGHTER" originated in that Tatsunoko game for Wii. They mentioned the desire to bring in Phoenix but he was cut due to the difference in number of characters between the american and japanese OBJECTION text bubbles. Ever since then, people wanted to see him in a fighting game to see how Capcom approaches him, since they obviously already had something vaguely in mind.