I came up with this question after reading a manga. Do you think a navi is stronger with or without an operator?

Blues/Protoman and Rockman/Megaman.EXE are very strong because of their relationships with their operators. But we have rogue navis like Serenade and Forte/Bass.EXE that are strong as well.

I\'m kind of in the middle. There are strong navis without operators and strong navis with operators. What do you all think??

Assuming the the Navi can use chips and such without the need for an operator then that would be more powerful than -most- Navis with one since not every navi is Megaman, it would be stronger in most cases.

However breakman, wouldn\'t you think that if the navi had an operator, and goes through many battles, it would soon begin to always depend on it\'s operator to help him/her? A navi with no one to help can easily gain more experiance and knowledge without the help of an operator aslong as it survives the first few battles it has.

[Edited on 4/14/2004 by ProtoStar]

True, it\'s rare, but that\'s who are usually the strongest.
Although bass cheats since he has the program absorb thing...

Netto and Rokkuman are a special case, so they can\'t really be used in an argument for either side. Just a heads-up

Okay, I\'ve got an opinion. But, you have to absolutely postive about hearing the honest opinion, or just something to keep you guys off my back. \'So to speak\'

Go ahead, this topic is all about opinion.

I think that no operator is better since human reaction is at best a tenth of a second. Navis are computer programs and as such would be able to react and respond much faster.

I also like the fact that rogue navis can use custom chips at any time instead of an operator searching through a pack or a folder or something.

Okay. Here\'s my honest opinion.

...Humans are pathetic!! Navis need no-one! Just the ability to fight!!

...O_o

I guess I might\'ve gone a little over board

Agreed, the only exception is Lan (Netto) and Megaman (Rokkuman) however, they are an exception so they don\'t count

Mabye it\'s the way they train differently.:rolleyes:

I would like to add that Chaud and Protoman are also exceptions.

Yes, but not quite to the same degree.

Netto and Rockman claim they\'re strong because of their friendship.

Enzan and Blues are strong simply because they practice constantly every day.

Also, since Lan and Megaman were once the same being, spliting apart and then synchronizing again causes the two to double up their powers when combined.

You have Lan\'s emotions and MegaMan\'s (Hub\'s) emotions merging into one great power. Still, if they could just do that, what was the point of the Hub.Bat in MMBN1?

I beleive every Navi has their strong points and weak points, regardless of the support of a human operator.

Bass has copy ability, Serenade can reflect one\'s own power, and other Navis that have never even had any evidence as to if they had operators. (At least in the games) Bombman, Stoneman, Cutman, Drillman, Freezeman, Pharoahman, Napalmman, Planetman and probably many others.

All of these, still able to fend for themselves (That\'s until Lan and MegaMan step in and delete them!) :devil:

The point was to change the .001 difference in their DNA, thus allowing them to fully synch

I think it depends on the Navi and, if there is one, the Operator. If a Navi has no Operator, it can stay on the net as long as it wants and train as long as it likes. This is a good advantage. However, since Navis w/ Operators have a bond with the Op, they are more effected by emotions which can make them stronger or weaker. I\'m kind of both ways.

.....

You\'re right Mana. I guess it is better to have operators fight along side Navis. (Curse the demon that sleeps within me!)

I think an operator would be stronger. Think of it like this: the navi can fight fine on its own and has the operator present for backup and advice, 2 brains are better than one.... allthough navis don\'t have brains, but that is besides my point.

Ok, this is kinda confusing:
My theory: I\'ve observed it on nearly every anime: Friends=Power. You are ALWAYS better with friends. Not an opinion. A fact.
Sensibility: Different Navis have different needs.
Lan and Megaman rely on friendship because theirs is an extremely strong bond. As brothers fighting together, they have an advantage most don\'t.
Chaud and Protoman rely on practice rather than friendship, so they are always strong. A bond of friendship might make them AS powerful as Megaman and Lan, but never MORE because Mega and Lan have a stupendous Brother Bond.
Random Examples:
Torma and Kingman need eachother because Torma relies on advanced tactics of human inginuity
DrillMan has no operator because he was created almost machine like: one purpose and no will to override it.
Bass has no operator because he was created with SO MUCH power that he doesn\'t need one (or so he feels). With his emotionlessness, he doesn\'t require companionship. With his deletion-absortion technique, he doesn\'t require an operator to upload chips. He may not realize it, but this makes him bare all of his battle responsibilities (decisions, tactics, etc.) upon himself. While he doesn\'t need to worry about this because his thought processes are so naturally fast, he would be theoretically unstoppable if he had a GOOD operator.
Remember, the natural skill of the operator and Navi are very important to keep into consideration. Also consider that while Bass was gaining power, he was being operated by Wily. Once he GOT enough power, that\'s when he didn\'t need him.
So, are operators as useless as we see?
This is a branchoff of my scorn for those who are always goin\', \"Humans are inferior and useless,\" and all that, most likely. :rolleyes:

......Oo\'

Abuhhhhh???

*ish utterly confuzzled*

Oh come now! Haven\'t you figured out that there really is some sort of bond of friendship between the two? They\'re both too stubborn ro admit it though.

I don\'t believe that a Navi without an operator is stronger. As far as I can tell, they can\'t even use chips (but their built-in powers make up for that). Also, a Navi without an operator may be powerful, but certainly not useful. They have no commands, and being computer data, therfore have no purpose until exposed to that with which they were created to interact with: HUMANS.:D

Whoa! Take it easy man! She\'s only stating the facts.

i think some navis need no one and some do not:)

I\'m not trying to impose. Forgive me if I came off as such. I was merely stating that they are powerful because they train every day AND because of their \"brotherly bond\".

Uh...\"brotherly bond\"?

*sniggers*

Yeah right! How do those two have a \"brotherly bond\" pray tell?

The bond of brothers in battle! Two warriors fighting back to back as allies! Cold and steely, but deep down a bond of trust.
Surely you can understand this?

Try listening next time you fight Gospel in MMBN2.