You know you have a favorite. So which is it? Are you the artist of the Oekaki board, or are you the top poster of the Message Board? This topic could get bloody...

Bloody? How? People are just naming their favorite board..

I myself have drawn 111 pics at Docs oekaki.. I\'m not proud..maybe.

But I prefer the message board. At least my topics aren\'t -usually- pushed down by 10 stupid topics in a matter of a day. Most of you don\'t know how it is to draw something for 2 hours or more (especially since the new rage at oekaki\'s seems to be \"how fast can I draw\") and get it pushed down by scribbles.

And this is why I think I\'m goin to oekakicentral. The mods are strict as hell over there..I like that.

This one\'s easy for me. I definitely prefer the MessageBoard over Oekaki.

Though I consider myself a pretty good artist on paper, I\'ve never fully learned how to transfer this skill to computers, regardless of using a mouse or a tablet. And even if I did learn how to use them, I\'m sure it wouldn\'t turn out as good as it would with pencil/pen and paper.

Most probably don\'t care about this, but I hate the fact that there are people on Oekaki telling others how to draw. I can understand having a rule about not making scribbles and not putting effort into your art, but actually telling people what to draw is inexcusable! Art is my first love (I\'ve been drawing since I was 4 years old), but to be honest, that is a huge reason as to why I refuse to pursue a career in visual arts-- I don\'t want someone telling me what to draw and how my art should look. :madgo:

Though I don\'t have any drawings on Oekaki, I do visit every once in a while. Some of the artist there are really awesome! :cool:

I can sympathize with you some, Hollow. Due to the fact that I am a perfectionist, I want things to look exactly as I see it, and so it usually takes me quite a few hours to complete any drawing that I work on.

I really don\'t want to see you leave-- you are one of the best artist Oekaki has! Perhaps when Cossack and the Oekaki staff sees this thread, maybe some changes will be made for the better. :cool:

I\'ve seen that too many times to count.. I mean, it does help sometimes when you\'re drawing realism.. If you draw a certain type of animal and it\'s colored wrong, then it\'s alright if someone tells you it\'s wrong I guess. o.o But if it\'s cartoony or anime or..your own style of drawing, then people really have no right to say that it\'s drawn \"wrong\". There\'s really no wrongs in that..

And about the oekaki..if Doc likes it the way it is, I don\'t want him messing it up for one stubborn person..heh.

*sigh* You know, We\'re doing the best we can in seeing to it that the O-Board is A-OK, but sometimes, there are just some people who do not listen to me, Kia, nor the Doc. Take MegaProto for instance: She\'s been warned umpteen times to put some effort in her artwork, but she never listened at all; perhaps she put up her \"You\'re-not-my-mommy-so-I-won\'t-listen-to-you\" stance.

I feel for everybody who abhors these fast scribblers. and Hollow, the board has just recently opened again so there\'s still room for improvement. Being new to this, I\'m still testing the waters to see how I can do my part in keeping it orderly. So don\'t leave just yet.

If push comes to shove, I will adopt the same standards for submissions that the Japanese Oekaki boards have established(I joined a few of them recently...)No mercy for scribbles done in under 30 minutes!!

Of course, I\'ll have to consult with the Doc about that. Standard protocol...:P


[Edited on 9/5/2002 by Keiji]

Yeah, I\'ve seen japanese (and one english) oekakis that use their timers for a *gasp* reason. Auto-delete if under 30 minutes..heh.

I understand about the board being new, yeah. But really, you mods have to stop worrying about hurting peoples feelings. If YOU think the picture is a scribble, delete it. Use your judgement...

Thenn...29 min and 49 sec....that would be bad...

THE MESSAGEBOARD DEFINITLY!.....Out of all the places on the internet this is my favorite place of all!:D

Seeing how I stopped using the Oekaki, it should be obvious which I\'m preferring. =P

The message board all the WAY!

Sorry, its alright to post in an old topic, as long its not sapam! :miam:<=== Poison Spam.

Actually Sage, Kiryu was right. As long as a post contributes to the topic, then a person can bump a topic, no matter how old.

Kiryu added his opinion on the question asked from the original post in his reply. He didn\'t do anything wrong.

Thanks a lot, Necro the ruler of France.

Oh boy, another 2 year old topic. o_O;

I perfer message board.

[Edited on 22-8-2004 by Hao]

There is no dissing. Okay, so there is, but only on morons like Redsilver making pictures begging for praise, or people who don\'t read the rules.

You\'re supposed to practice before sending a picture. You\'re not supposed to be new to the oekaki applet, scribble who knows what and send it in.

You\'re not supposed to beg for comments. Not thinly veil asking for them.. Or continously post on your own pictures until someone comments.

No need to put critics in quotes, either. The people who critique pictures there usually know what they\'re talking about, and I enjoy it when they critique me personally. When they critique, they are only trying to help people.

Now I understand a comment of \"The hair looks ugly\" being frowned upon, but I usually don\'t see anyone make comments like that..

I\'ll stop rambling.

Pfft, Kiryu.

As for what Hollow said, yes.

I have to deal with people who register, skip rules, post pictures that aren\'t even good enough and they say \"Omg, I\'m a bad artist, I want comments!!\"

I have to yell at them to read the rules and improve.

Sometimes, they do.

Sometimes, they don\'t.

wow I voted Oekaki because I love to draw...but come to think of it I have not drawin in a long time and the people in the MB are all so great well most of you are so I actualy think I like the Message board alot more....oh well can\'t change it now too bad so many people on oekaki don\'t try at all it seems...

I agree with hollow for the most part, I wouldn\'t comment a picture if it wasn\'t in the intention of helping the artist. Just writing \"UGLY!\" or \"Ooohh, pretty!\" Isn\'t going to help much, allthough some nice words are encouraging, like in Pocket\'s case where there were little comment at all (as faar as I know)



Another thing that brings the Oekaki down, many artists at the board often sit for more that 3 hours with one picture (I have an avarige of 5 hours) and all that hard work is dumped off the page the next day by 5 other people who made a 10 minute skech, claim they don\'t know how to draw and expects praise for that fact.

Of course, people are, as faar as I am concerned, more than welcome to polish their drawing skills, but there is a limit to how faar you can strech this. If you don\'t put effort into it, your not trying to learn anything.

I guess I\'ve been talking for too long again... To sum it up; I think I prefeer the message board, but it is really hard to compare the two. The Message board is for social discussian and the other for drawing, I can honestly say that the Oekaki applet is an exelent drawing program, but all the site/login bugs and scribble artists makes it a hard desission.

I\'ll let you rest your eyes now

I personally think Pocket was using the oekaki for the wrong thing; to get praise and attention. Most of us serious artists there just draw to draw, and he whined when he \"only\" got five comments on a picture. Like he\'s Ayami Kojima or Yoshitaka Amano or something, and deserves shitloads of praise for an oekaki.

Now, I haven\'t drawn there as much as I wanted to, but only because it was the summer, and that\'s when all the noobs arrive to spam up the place. Hopefully I get back to drawing on there soon. (My next oekaki will be number 263.. I\'m aiming for 300.)