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Regardless of any issues with the PSP, the DS is too gimmicky for me. Like Gutter said, I don\'t want to scratch on a screen with a stick. Plus there are products out that extend the PSP\'s battery life, it\'s a small cradle with its own battery, so when the PSP runs out, it takes over. There are small protective films that you can put on the screen. Addressing the game issue, I\'m sure that more games will be released for the PSP, cmon give em some time, it takes time to learn all that new programming. The problem with the DS is that all the games are about the gimmick, the stylus screen, and as we all know, gimmicks are the suck. So before you persecute the poor sony people, take a look at how much better the PS2 was than the cube. Don\'t give me your nintendo fanboy argument either, all of you know that the PS2 was way more powerful and had a much better game library than the cube could ever have.


\"poor sony people\"?! Hahahaha, I\'m gonna choke on that one! :P

On another note, check the actual spec sheets for both the PS2 and the GameCube: the GC is more powerful on almost every aspect. The Xbox beats them both, though.


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..I can\'t believe there\'s still people that think the PS2 is a more powerful system.

YES the PS2 can produce more polygons on-screen than the Cube, but that\'s about all. Otherwise, the Cube beats it out. The Xbox does indeed beat them all out though, it\'s the only one that can handle Halo and Doom 3 by far. ;P

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Indeed.

There is, however, something else on the side of the DS as opposed to the PSP. I belive that MegaMan DS has been announced. And you want a PSP because...?


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Jeez, I\'m sorry I said anything, you people take your games way too seriously. Chill out my friends, I was just saying to give the PSP a chance before you denounce it and call it horrible.


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Don\'t waste your breath. As you can see, we took your arguments and tore \'em apart. I think this is reason to keep my DS and stear clear of PSPs.


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All I have to say about this is look at the Sig! I\'m all out Nintendo man because when I got a PS2 it broke...so I got another one....and it broke so I got a game cube and never had one problem EVER! I think the PSP is going to do well because of the graphic whores and I can\'t deny they are going to have a couple good games but I am not going to spend $250 on something that is going to break in 2 days.

I don\'t want to sound like I\'m bashing too much because that\'s not why I\'m posting, just stating my displeasure with Sony of late. Seems like it\'ll be DS for me all the way it looks nice Metroid kicks, and it seems like it\'ll have a lot of games I\'ll wanna play like Smashbroters handheld and Sonic and Zelda and a whole slew of other games.


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Yeah. Even when it didn\'t brake, they had a lot of teathing problems with all of their new systems. Think about the slim PS2. They forgot to put a fan in it and it overheated. :lol:


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Yeah. Even when it didn\'t brake, they had a lot of teathing problems with all of their new systems. Think about the slim PS2. They forgot to put a fan in it and it overheated. :lol:


I doubt they would forget to include an hardware element! It\'s probably a choice by design, like that button on the PSP that won\'t always work properly.


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doc.mad, your previous post is a fine example of spam. Don\'t do that again, \'kay?


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Yeah. Even when it didn\'t brake, they had a lot of teathing problems with all of their new systems. Think about the slim PS2. They forgot to put a fan in it and it overheated. :lol:


I doubt they would forget to include an hardware element! It\'s probably a choice by design, like that button on the PSP that won\'t always work properly.


You mean they\'d miss out the fan on purpose? I can\'t believe that Sony will do that. It\'s even more stupid than forgetting it!


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Okay, you killed my biased argument. I get it, however I am still going to buy the PSP (if I do buy one of them). Like I said before, too gimmicky. And to whoever said the touch screen isn\'t a gimmick, WHAT?!?!?! Yes, I realize that they have been used for years on PDA\'s. A PDA is not a game system. Even if you do happen to debunk that argument, I\'ve seen the games coming out for the DS. And the vast majority of them rely on gimmicky gameplay. Like that one where you draw lines on the screen to dictate where you go, don\'t tell me thats not a gimmick, because it is.

I realize that the Cube had more power technically, however the PS2 had a better game library, regardless of how they came by this library, it had the library. Plus I\'ve played both systems, I haven\'t played X-box, The button layout on the PS2 was much more intuitive, there were too many buttons in wierd places on the Cube\'s controller.

I realize that there were some really good games on the Cube, however most of those were made by Nintendo, and I didn\'t say that they weren\'t better game makers than Sony, hell, Sony didn\'t make many games, if any.

Oh, the supposedly, breaking PS2\'s not so broken after all, just a dirty lens.

I based my more power statement on the fact that PS2 used a DVD format, while Cube used a Mini-disc. This statement was a bit biased, and I am sorry for that.

I also realize that the PSP\'s price is high, I got no argument for that, but it does play MP3\'s, and Movies, and it holds pictures, though these are technically gimmicks, they do not effect gameplay, and I doubt that it will effect the type of games released for it.

Now may I go away with my dignity, or are you going to attack me more for liking Sony better as a system builder.


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You mean they\'d miss out the fan on purpose? I can\'t believe that Sony will do that. It\'s even more stupid than forgetting it!


You\'re taking about the design crew who put the square button of the PSP slightly under the screen on purpose, to save some space even if it meant having the button to break on some units. Of course they\'re stupid enough to do it!


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Okay, you killed my biased argument. I get it, however I am still going to buy the PSP (if I do buy one of them). Like I said before, too gimmicky. And to whoever said the touch screen isn\'t a gimmick, WHAT?!?!?! Yes, I realize that they have been used for years on PDA\'s. A PDA is not a game system. Even if you do happen to debunk that argument, I\'ve seen the games coming out for the DS. And the vast majority of them rely on gimmicky gameplay. Like that one where you draw lines on the screen to dictate where you go, don\'t tell me thats not a gimmick, because it is.

I realize that the Cube had more power technically, however the PS2 had a better game library, regardless of how they came by this library, it had the library. Plus I\'ve played both systems, I haven\'t played X-box, The button layout on the PS2 was much more intuitive, there were too many buttons in wierd places on the Cube\'s controller.

I realize that there were some really good games on the Cube, however most of those were made by Nintendo, and I didn\'t say that they weren\'t better game makers than Sony, hell, Sony didn\'t make many games, if any.

Oh, the supposedly, breaking PS2\'s not so broken after all, just a dirty lens.

I based my more power statement on the fact that PS2 used a DVD format, while Cube used a Mini-disc. This statement was a bit biased, and I am sorry for that.

I also realize that the PSP\'s price is high, I got no argument for that, but it does play MP3\'s, and Movies, and it holds pictures, though these are technically gimmicks, they do not effect gameplay, and I doubt that it will effect the type of games released for it.

Now may I go away with my dignity, or are you going to attack me more for liking Sony better as a system builder.


Time to reply in a dignified manner. Ok about the \"Gimmicks\" of the DS that is the whole reason it was made innovation not gimmick. I mean it\'s the only real game system of its kind, it\'s taking the path less traveled, venturing out to a new venue. Like it or not, we all want something new in gaming, and this does make it more interactive.

You\'re right about the PS2 having a bigger library of games, no denying that. But the problem is that about 75% of PS2s break, and not just a dirty lens(I took mine apart cleaned it readjusted the laser eye and still no go.) many of them could not even read the CD based games(blue discs) I could not install my hard drive because it was a blue disc.

I\'m not going to attack you for liking Sony, I may be a fan boy but I still have some since, PS2 is a good system, when it works, For RPG\'s the newer Nintendo consoles have not had a deep library of them. The playstation and PS2 however have had hundreds and that\'s what keeps me playing my PS1 all the time.

and that\'s all I have to say about that.


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I based my more power statement on the fact that PS2 used a DVD format, while Cube used a Mini-disc.


Cube does use DVD multi-layer format. They\'ve just made it half the size of a standard DVD.

If you do get a PSP, you\'ll be alone.

Dr. Cossack, I guess I overestimated Sony. I didn\'t think that was possible, with my bleak view on them, but it\'s true.


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Let me just say this, Sony also developes good labtops, along with other computer accessories, so technically yes, they ARE in the Computer Gaming Industry. Their CD Players are some of the best I\'ve seen. (Everyone at my school atleast has a Sony CD player due to its good performance and non-skipping) Memorex is good too, My freind got a PSP, he was staying the night, and played it all night. So it must have a longer battery life then what they say. Plus, I\'d also say it depends on the battery. Like Duracell, or Maxell. Anyways, thats my 2 cents.:P


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Duracell? Mexell? No, it has it\'s own built in battery like a laptop or the DS, or SP.


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Well, innovation aside, I like my games just like they are. I want a controller, if it ain\'t broke, don\'t fix it, as they say.

I\'d also like to say that I am sorry for my Biased argument, I was in a little bit of a funk those days, I wasn\'t feeling good.


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Air, do you know what type of battery is in a labtop? Its almost like the same kind from duracell, but a labtop supplied.


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Lithium-ion, isn\'t it? I\'d prefer the Dell I have, anyway, rather than a Sony.


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\"PS2 has a larger library of games\"

Yes, but almost all of them are mediocre. But I\'m not one to think GTA is \"good\" in any way, so..

\"DS is gimmicky lolz!!1\"

And PSP isn\'t? Playing Mp3s and it essientially being a PDA that can play games, isn\'t a gimmick? DS is -supposedly- gimmicky towards children. The kids will like drawing on the screen, says stupid fanboys. So the PSP isn\'t aimed towards adults with its gimmicky aspects? Yes, yes it is..people just don\'t want to admit it. :P

\"Sony makes good laptops and CD players\"

Yes, they make good CD players. And laptops I dunno about, never had one. BUT I\'m almost positive that the people behind the CD players aren\'t the same ones that design the PS2, so that\'s not really valid.

And hey, I find it funny with the button thing on the PSP...and all the dead pixels. I\'m waiting to see what flaws occur next. :lol:

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Personally, I think they both suck.

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I have a DS, and I think it\'s great. I\'ve not come across a single fault in it at all and the processing power in it is amazing. It\'s just 64 bit, and some images (like the water effect in the game select screen in Super Mario 64 DS) are better by far than the PS2! It has an amazing processor in it!

What I say to you is this: If you buy the PSP over the DS, it\'s your loss. :P


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Agreed, it\'s a whole lotta dough down the hole if you buy a PSP. Sony doesn\'t even cover Dead Pixels in their warranty!

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Seeing as we are all bickering about Sony\'s crapness, I\'ll just bring light to this little artical: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/06/psp_umd_cracked/

It is bad for Sony, however, it may be a very good thing for PSP owners, seeing as the next step will be copying the games and giving them away for free. Not that you can\'t do this with ROMS, anyhow, but you know, I won\'t get into that.

Also, there\'s DVDs which will be able to be copied. (I won\'t talk about the music being copied, as all you need for that is a PC.)

Also, it will be very difficult to make a rom of a DS game. If you have two screens, fair enough. The diffulcty comes when you try to replicate the touch screen. You can\'t exactly get a stylus and use your PC moniter, can you? It could be seen as a very ingeneus way to get people to buy the games, as opposed to download them for free. In which case, it difinately is NOT a gimmick.

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Stop postting in the wrong forum, and please stop spamming... Also.. I\'ve never heard of anyone being \'pised\' before..

on-topic: I would like the DS betted if it had a little pop-up joystick... it seems weird to play a game by touchpad or stylus... x.x


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Really? I like the method of touchy-feely (:P) movement. Takes a little getting used to, but once you\'re used to it, it\'s alright!


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The thing is, most people don\'t want to have to get used to using a stylus or the thumb strap. That\'s one of the reasons that deter people from getting the DS. They seem to forget that they might have had to get used to the analog controllers when they took over for the D-pads (though the difference wasn\'t as big).


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