I\'ve been thinking about something. When I started watching GT when the episodes aired on Toonami, I was all, \"Hey, sweet, we finally get another hero besides Goku!\". Anyways, I figure after watching the first couple of episodes \"Ok, no problem, Goku\'s gonna take back seat, right?\". Wrong. Goku\'s STILL the only one who ever really saves the day. So, my point is, why in the world is Goku always the hero? There were multiple generations that completely wasted their lives training to be like Goku! Gohan, Gotenks, Pan... from what I understand, not one of them ever really saved the earth. Gohan got lucky a few times with the whole \"father-son bond\" routine, but it becomes apparent by GT that Goku\'s always going to be the main character. I\'m just saying, it seems ridiculous that no character ever replaced Goku, even though the oppurtunity was opened a billion times. It seems like a waste to form all of those new characters when not one of them ever really gets to save Earth. I mean, what a waste of time showing Gotenks\' and Trunks\' mastery of the fusion technique. Pan turned out to be even more dissapointing, because she never really even gets to fight! I don\'t know, it\'s just a major irritation to me that they keep bringing Goku back over and over again, no matter how many times he dies. certainly someones strong enough to take his place?

Ah well. Just blowing off steam. It didn\'t ruin the series or anything, but it is terribley anticlamatic, don\'t you think?

You know that they\'re always going to revive him, some-how, he\'s going to come back for whatever the new series is *Ahem* OSX *ahem* and save the world with some blatant move that has been tried many times before. Personally, I think my watching of the series has come to an end.

Well the series is pretty much about Goku. So writing him out is kind of senseless.

Well, see, that\'s sort of the problem. They through in tons of characters who train to reach Goku\'s power level, but they never really do anything. If Goku was going to be the only world savior, then why in the world did we need to archive the every happening of the next generations? GT could have been pretty awesome if they\'d started fresh with maybe Trunks\'s generation and Pan. But Goku basically never breaks a sweat on their space voyage, and the dragons fall pretty easy too. Sorta like training character on an RPG and using your level 20 guy against a bunch of 5s. I mean, Goku\'s really had enough adventure and hairstyles for one lifetime, right?

[Edited on 31-7-2005 by AimMan v2.5]

Uhhhhh well you do know GT wasn\'t made by Toriyama anyways..so I don\'t see why you waste your time watching it in the first place. I don\'t think they really paid attention to the former series..

Goku was OK in the first few series of dbz becouse he was a good leader. He is soft though, and they do need a new hero for once in GT.

See Hollow\'s comment. XP

Toriyama actually wanted to replace Goku with Gohan as the main character. He attempted to do so after the Cell Games but the fans demanded Goku, and Goku became the hero again shortly after the Buu Saga begain.

Goku was always number one because that\'s what the fans wanted to see during it\'s original run in Japan.

Actually, Goku didn\'t really steal the Cell Saga though. He was out for most of it, and then was dead-even with Cell in the 6 episodes he was actually in.

Hey, don\'t blame the anime. Blame the manga. Well, not the manga or manga artist, but the um..producer? Toriyama DID want to end the series before..Buu I think (I\'m sure Necro will correct me if I\'m wrong) but the manga company wouldn\'t let him.

At least the Buu saga was cool and funny, no more of that overly dramatic serious shit.

[quote]Originally posted by FlareMan
Agreed... DBZ should\'ve ended at Cell...

But now that you bring up the subject of Goku, I can\'t help but rant about the other characters who could\'ve been JUST AS GOOD, if not better. Piccollo, Yamatcha, KRILLIN... WHy is it that Goku went up to power level 9-billion-and-something-eighty-three while everyone else we ever knew and loved were left sitting at 84? Heck, When I saw Piccollo absorb that other namek guy and start wailing on Freiza, I was like, \"HOLY SH** THAT\'S AWESOME!!!\". I remember the GOOD old days when being a team of heroes meant something and Krillin and the gang were every bit as good as Goku and they all fought as hard if not harder, and yet the series left them in the dust, just to glorify the main character? Can you say, \"screwed\"?

Now that I think about it, the series should\'ve ended at Freiza, \'cause that\'s where Goku really started leaving people behind in terms of \"I\'m taking over the series, you guys just quietly slip into the background, okay?\"

[Edited on 20-8-2005 by FlareMan] [/quote]

Amen, brother, amen. I was hoping to see Krillin\'s comeback after he successfully cut off the tip of Frieza\'s tale with the destructo disk.

Yeah, I was really glad when it seemed like Gohan was becoming the new Goku, which would at least open up the slot for a new generation of one super powerful saiyan and a bunch of moderately powerful guys. However, they couldn\'t even do that! They just couldn\'t let anyone have that slot. I know it\'s useless to complain, I just think it kinda ruined the GT series... and it didn\'t help the Buu saga, although it was still cool (Dr. Gero Android!:D ).

[Edited on 22-8-2005 by AimMan v2.5]

Buu was not a \"waste of time\". Toriyama seemed to go back to his roots with Buu. Dragonball itself started as a goofy series, you have to admit. It just escalated into a fightfest.

Dragonball\'s anime seemed to make everyone think it\'s all about punching air and sweating. :rolleyes:

I just don\'t like how DBZ fight seens last like 50 episodes. >.>

[Edited on 24-8-2005 by Dr. Cossack]

[quote]Originally posted by FlareMan
[quote]Originally posted by Kagome_Sakura
I just don\'t like how DBZ fight seens last like 50 episodes. >.>

[Edited on 24-8-2005 by Dr. Cossack] [/quote]

Reminds me of that joke...

Q: How many DBZ characters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: One, but it takes 30 episodes. [/quote]

Whoohoo... what a laugh...
well, if they are all SSJ\'s, then they\'re all blond!

[quote]Originally posted by Morphman
[quote]Originally posted by FlareMan
[quote]Originally posted by Kagome_Sakura
I just don\'t like how DBZ fight seens last like 50 episodes. >.>

[Edited on 24-8-2005 by Dr. Cossack] [/quote]

Reminds me of that joke...

Q: How many DBZ characters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: One, but it takes 30 episodes. [/quote]

Whoohoo... what a laugh...
well, if they are all SSJ\'s, then they\'re all blond! [/quote]
hehehe how true
Okay so Goku Gohan and Goten are SS1 and they are kidnapped by indians and are about to be executed by archery Gohan powers down to normal and says Hurricane the indians look Gohan runs away Goten yells tornado after powering down and runs away, Goku keeps SS1 and yells Fire

[quote]Originally posted by Black Dranzer.exe
[quote]Originally posted by Morphman
[quote]Originally posted by FlareMan
[quote]Originally posted by Kagome_Sakura
I just don\'t like how DBZ fight seens last like 50 episodes. >.>

[Edited on 24-8-2005 by Dr. Cossack] [/quote]

Reminds me of that joke...

Q: How many DBZ characters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: One, but it takes 30 episodes. [/quote]

Whoohoo... what a laugh...
well, if they are all SSJ\'s, then they\'re all blond! [/quote]
hehehe how true
Okay so Goku Gohan and Goten are SS1 and they are kidnapped by indians and are about to be executed by archery Gohan powers down to normal and says Hurricane the indians look Gohan runs away Goten yells tornado after powering down and runs away, Goku keeps SS1 and yells Fire [/quote]

explanation please... no understanding here...

[quote]Originally posted by Morphman
[quote]Originally posted by Black Dranzer.exe
[quote]Originally posted by Morphman
[quote]Originally posted by FlareMan
[quote]Originally posted by Kagome_Sakura
I just don\'t like how DBZ fight seens last like 50 episodes. >.>

[Edited on 24-8-2005 by Dr. Cossack] [/quote]

Reminds me of that joke...

Q: How many DBZ characters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: One, but it takes 30 episodes. [/quote]

Whoohoo... what a laugh...
well, if they are all SSJ\'s, then they\'re all blond! [/quote]
hehehe how true
Okay so Goku Gohan and Goten are SS1 and they are kidnapped by indians and are about to be executed by archery Gohan powers down to normal and says Hurricane the indians look Gohan runs away Goten yells tornado after powering down and runs away, Goku keeps SS1 and yells Fire [/quote]

explanation please... no understanding here... [/quote]
basically Goku stayed blondy for his answer.

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