As you'll recall, old ones, we had a Spammer a few summers ago who at one point called us "gay fags".

Recently I took up a conversation with 3 of my friends. We weren't able to come to a decision on whether calling someone a "gay fag" would insinuate homosexuality or not.

2 of us thought that it would be sort of a cancellation, while the other 2 thought it would simply mean more of the same intent.

So I bring the question to you: What do you think?

And yes, I know this is an odd question.

Haha, I dunno if Doc would approve that F word.

But I do think it means, to the common man, that you are a "extreme homosexual".

Of course, the higher ups who know that gay is such a low class insult, considers "gay fag" to be a cancellation of both.

From where I come from (Georgia), gay fag is just another word used for idiot, dumbass, someone annoying, ect. We're saying it so much, that they are making videos and stuff saying they are bad. Heh, they even surveyed us on it. I said I say it all the time, I don't think it's fun, and it's funny. Then it asked why we say it if we do. I said it just comes to our mouth faster.

I had 2 weeks of therapy with the school councilor (sp?) after that. I would have had like 2 months or so if I hadn't told my mom about it.

During those 2 weeks, They said why I wouldn't say something a little better, like stupid, idiot, that sort of stuff. I replied, again, "It comes to my mouth sooner." The term is used a lot at our school. Gay more than gay fag however.

Things at my school are really just either "cool" or "gay".

I voted first. Fags are stupid.

Ah, the children of America.

You all need to be slapped. Alot.

Well, it's not like I want to say those things. I'm forced to. My insticts just yell out to me to do it. But I really just call it to the dumbasses of America. Not the retards the or nice people.

Seconded. Jeez, Spider777.

Edit-- I really hope you meant the word, though. X_o

And let us remember... fags originally meant cigarettes and gay meant to be happy. Where did we go wrong?

[Edited on 15-2-2006 by Kia_Purity]

You're not being "forced" at all.



Your "insticts" tell you be a trucking moron? Nice. Funny how you say it's against "the retards of America" when you're being one when you say it. Irony.

You know how to avoid using terms like "gay" in negative definition? Don't use foul language at all. Sheesh people. Am I the only person who doesn't do that?:P

I'd imagine most people intend it to mean "double the gayness." I believe the term is actually quite ineffective, by which I mean that it does not convey the intended definition. Or at the very least, it is repetetive.

It is sad, Kia.

[Edited on 15-2-2006 by AimMan v2.5]

Have you met my friend, Public Decency?
I third what Hollow said. Seriously, bro.

As for the topic, the actual term "Gay fag" confuses me. When I rearranged it in my head, like, if you change it to "Fags are gay", then you're just stating that a fag is gay. In that sense, I think it makes you a homosexual. I'm not sure about "Gay fag" though. Are both terms the same thing?

I suppose the topic is pointless. But it is a question that baffled me, and since it originated from this board, I found it only fitting.

I don't think that when most people use words the word gay actually mean that what they're speaking about is homosexual. It's today's generation's way of saying something is uncool.

That doesn't mean that it should be acceptable. It still attaches stigma to homosexuality.

Stupidity has once again taken over another individual.


As for me, yes, I am a happy cigarette.:)

Since fag comes last, it cancels out gay, making you a "Happy straight person".

[Edited on 15-2-2006 by Smirnoff]

I say it cancels it out. Sometimes in language something like this can also double the 'effect', but usually they cancel each other out.

Not meaning to stereotype, but doesn't that point towards them hippies? :o

Maybe he was calling everyone a "Happy bundle of sticks."

That's my opinion.

From what I understand, the word "fag", as in "gay" is short for "faggot", which is a kind of fat sausage-meat thing, often used as an insult to incinuate homosexuality. It is particularly used when the homosexual in question is slightly overweight and middle-aged. (Think Elton John).

By calling someone a gay fag, they are saying words to a similar effect of "a gay queer", even a homosexual homosexual. It is, in my oppinion, merely using the same insult twice, one as an adjective, second as a noun. A little like:

You f***ing F***er!
You w***ing w***er!

or more similarly,

You queer homosexual!

Which, as said above, merely translates to

You gay gay!

Although, I'm sure the comprehension of homosexuality was far beyond that n00b's understanding, so he was merely using it as a term for a person he didn't like.

The word Gay can institute two meanings.

1. A synonym of happy

2. A homosexual person

The adding of the word Fag (not using the full spelling) confirms the use of the second derivative. This concludes English class Pencils down.

I think that the invertive/not-invertive logic cannot be applied to these two opposites because it doesn't seem that one has a "NOT" operation in it while the other doesn't. So a "gay fag" (both meaning homosexual) would simply mean homosexual as much as "straight heterosexual" would mean heterosexual. So the cancellation thing is flawed.

I think a "gay fag" is can be considered a tautology, since it repetites the same meaning.

[quote]Originally posted by Juno
[color=purple]It's an oxymoron. It is meant to mean that we're all really gay, but by adding fags on there it cancels it out, and makes it mean the opposite... An oxymoron.[/quote]
You're the one I disagree with.

I agree. Calling this an oximoron is like saying a bright light is also an oximoron, although the two words strengthen eachother.

If, however, he called someone a "gay bi", that would be an oximoron, as a bisexual is technically not gay.

I dont know. dont ask me.

Why bother posting, then?

I think that if your going to say "Gay Fag" you would mean "Happy Homosexual" just becuase Homosexual Homosexual is redundant. It doens't cancel anything out (it's not division) it's just English.

Granted I'm sure that kid never though about it this much...

Dang... who WAS that guy? I remember that phrase, but can't remember who it was...

I believe that was "hello", but I could be wrong.

I think that every major SPAMmer said it, at least once.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW GAYFAG WOULD CANCEL OUT

fag(n)-1.gay guy 2. cigerette

right?