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I pick Mega, hands down!


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I pick Mega, hands down!
I say megaman hes the blue boomer


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Samus for the exact same reason I say Samus could beat the Master Chief. The technology in the Metroid series far exceeds that in Megaman... Besides, Samus doesn\'t die if she touches a spike. And, two words: power bomb.


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Samus has a larger arsenal than Mega Man, which only has a buster. Samus can also go in Morphball mode and avoid Mega\'s attacks easily. She also has homing missiles and other nifty weapons.


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I\'m with Shad on this- the weapons in Samus\' arsenal rock. Of course, it may be just because I\'m presently completely immersed in Metroid Prime...

I actually think it would be a pretty close fight, but come on, you get like ten automatic energy tanks with Samus! XD Her weapons are more accurite, too. Now, if it were her against X, then it might be a lot closer. But original Megaman really isn\'t all -that- strong, in my opinion.

Oh, yeah, POWER BOMB!

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Um, versus topics are against the rules I thought...

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Samus has a larger arsenal than Mega Man, which only has a buster.


Not to mention roughly 64 Robot Master weapons.

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Megaman is a robot, he can be built again! and he could take samus\' powers

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I found the ultimate reason! Samus is HUMAN! Megaman cannot kill a human being. BOOyah!


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Bobbie Asimov FTW!

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I found the ultimate reason! Samus is HUMAN! Megaman cannot kill a human being. BOOyah!


Oh wait, Capcom hasn\'t stated that Megaman is Asimov Certified.

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I found the ultimate reason! Samus is HUMAN! Megaman cannot kill a human being. BOOyah!


Oh wait, Capcom hasn\'t stated that Megaman is Asimov Certified.

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*GASP* you\'re right! D= however, what truly makes this sort of contest pointless is that they\'re both GOOD. They wouldn\'t want to kill each other. They\'d probably team up, if anything.


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Although according the the [IIRC defunct] Nintendoland, Samus, by popular vote, kicked Megsy\'s ass.

I could post the transcript from the \"fight\", but it\'s like badly written fanfiction.

[Edited on 3/5/2006 by Mega X.exe]

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[quote]Originally posted by Mega X.exe
Although according the the [IIRC defunct] Nintendoland, Samus, by popular vote, kicked Megsy\'s ass. [/quote]
Well, being the first and (pretty much) only non-sexualized video game heroine does make a pretty big impression.. ;)


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Samus has a larger arsenal than Mega Man, which only has a buster.


Not to mention roughly 64 Robot Master weapons.

Yeah, but he loses them everytime and has to defeat robot masters in order to gain those weapons. Samus on the other hand starts the game with a larger arsenal than Mega.


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I found the ultimate reason! Samus is HUMAN! Megaman cannot kill a human being. BOOyah!


OOOOH SNAP...

Hence this whole topic is pointless. Xp


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Then what about the Jap ending of MM7? :P

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Oh wait, Capcom hasn\'t stated that Megaman is Asimov Certified.

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Then what about the Jap ending of MM7? :P


MegaMan IS Asimov Certified. He was built to STOP Dr. Wily, not kill him, if you recall.

The reason he almost did in MM7 was that he was having an arguement within himself about it. Something along the lines of wether killing one to save the many would be overall the best choice for following the \"protect humans\" programming.

Eventually, mercy won out, that and the building collapsed on the poor doctor, leaving Mega to believe him crunched. :P


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Samus would own him. And wait, samus is sexy, whatchu talkin\' about!?

Besides, she\'d just mow him down with missiles and super missiles and beam combos and...and...POWER BOMBS!:lol: Or she could just grab a sharp twig off the ground and poke him with it.


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I found the ultimate reason! Samus is HUMAN! Megaman cannot kill a human being. BOOyah!


Oh wait, Capcom hasn\'t stated that Megaman is Asimov Certified.

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*GASP* you\'re right! D= however, what truly makes this sort of contest pointless is that they\'re both GOOD. They wouldn\'t want to kill each other. They\'d probably team up, if anything.
Or get wild. *giggles*

[Edited on 5-3-2006 by Spider777]


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Then what about the Jap ending of MM7? :P


MegaMan IS Asimov Certified. He was built to STOP Dr. Wily, not kill him, if you recall.

The reason he almost did in MM7 was that he was having an arguement within himself about it. Something along the lines of wether killing one to save the many would be overall the best choice for following the \"protect humans\" programming.

Eventually, mercy won out, that and the building collapsed on the poor doctor, leaving Mega to believe him crunched. :P


I always assumed that Megaman was having a battle within himself, about whether killing Wily would be the right thing to do.

[Edited on 3/5/2006 by Mega X.exe]

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I found the ultimate reason! Samus is HUMAN! Megaman cannot kill a human being. BOOyah!


Oh wait, Capcom hasn\'t stated that Megaman is Asimov Certified.

NEGATED\'D

*GASP* you\'re right! D= however, what truly makes this sort of contest pointless is that they\'re both GOOD. They wouldn\'t want to kill each other. They\'d probably team up, if anything.
Or get wild. *giggles*

[Edited on 5-3-2006 by Spider777] [/quote]
That thought makes me die a little on the inside... thanks... e_e


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Samus would own him. And wait, samus is sexy, whatchu talkin\' about!?

Besides, she\'d just mow him down with missiles and super missiles and beam combos and...and...POWER BOMBS!:lol: Or she could just grab a sharp twig off the ground and poke him with it.


Oh please...

MegaMan > Samus

He\'s still got all those nifty weapons he stole from other Robot Masters. A few Power Stones and Astro Crushes later, Samus is nothing but a heap of goopy rubble on the other side of the playing field. :P

And don\'t give me that \"MegaMan doesn\'t keep his weapons\" Nonsense. Neither does SAMUS, and yet you\'re letting her rush in with missiles and power bombs right off the bat, so MegaMan gets just as much royalty. :devil:

So, put simply...

MegaMan w/all weapons >>>>> Samus w/all weapons

Strip them down to basicness, and they\'re pretty much equal.

Except that MegaMan can charge his shot right off the bat. :P


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I dunno... Samus starts Metroid Prime with all her weapons... and Prime 2, now that I think about it. Of course, plot-devices take them away again so you actually have something to do during the game... <_<

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I dunno... Samus starts Metroid Prime with all her weapons... and Prime 2, now that I think about it. Of course, plot-devices take them away again so you actually have something to do during the game... <_<

-Ri


I didn\'t get to play the Prime Games, so I didn\'t know...

Ah, well. MegaMan\'s charged shot not only hurts, but also wipes out tinier solid things in it\'s path. Samus fires a missle, MegaMan throws a charged shot.

Betcha I can tell which one\'s gonna hit the target. :P


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Alright, let\'s list it all:

MegaMan:

  • Buster at start of the game, no further weapons, is able to charge it in some games, unable in others.
  • At the end of a game, he has 8 extra weapons taken from RMs (excluding original version MM1), which are pretty effective against some enemies, and weak against others.
  • Capcom character.
  • Robot and Asimov Certified.

    Samus:
  • Has ALL weapons at start of the game, but loses them through plot-devices. Has all of them back again at the end (probably).
  • After losing weapons, got a Charge Beam, which can be charged in any game.
  • Nintendo character. (Can someone specify?)
  • Human.


    Now:

    1. They CANNOT meet. They\'re owned by different companies. HAH.

    2. WHEN should they meet? At the start of a game? At the point where you can actually start playing (when Samus will have lost most of her power-ups)? At the end? Or between? Which is actually the same as at the start of a game?
  • At the start: Samus has more weapons. Samus > MegaMan.
  • At playing-start: Samus = MegaMan.
  • At the end, where they both have many power-ups: Samus =/= MegaMan (meaning: \"not equal to\".) But who\'s greater? We don\'t know. Since they CANNOT MEET.

    3. And even IF they were to meet through some wierd, quirky ways and plot devices, MegaMan cannot hurt/kill Samus, since she\'s human, and he\'s a Asimov Certified robot, hence why he can\'t.


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    Alright, let\'s list it all:

    MegaMan:
  • Buster at start of the game, no further weapons, is able to charge it in some games, unable in others.
  • At the end of a game, he has 8 extra weapons taken from RMs (excluding original version MM1), which are pretty effective against some enemies, and weak against others.
  • Capcom character.
  • Robot and Asimov Certified.

    Samus:
  • Has ALL weapons at start of the game, but loses them through plot-devices. Has all of them back again at the end (probably).
  • After losing weapons, got a Charge Beam, which can be charged in any game.
  • Nintendo character. (Can someone specify?)
  • Human.


    Now:

    1. They CANNOT meet. They\'re owned by different companies. HAH.

    2. WHEN should they meet? At the start of a game? At the point where you can actually start playing (when Samus will have lost most of her power-ups)? At the end? Or between? Which is actually the same as at the start of a game?
  • At the start: Samus has more weapons. Samus > MegaMan.
  • At playing-start: Samus = MegaMan.
  • At the end, where they both have many power-ups: Samus =/= MegaMan (meaning: \"not equal to\".) But who\'s greater? We don\'t know. Since they CANNOT MEET.

    3. And even IF they were to meet through some wierd, quirky ways and plot devices, MegaMan cannot hurt/kill Samus, since she\'s human, and he\'s a Asimov Certified robot, hence why he can\'t.


  • This is assuming that MegaMan KNOWS she\'s a human being. I\'m sure with all that chozo technology, Samus would have some kind of anti-scanner to keep people from seeing what\'s inside. :P

    MegaMan would be forced to assume she\'s a robot, and would therefore have every right to shoot at her.

    And as for the at-the-beginning-of-the-game thing, I allready answered that.

    MegaMan will still have his charge shot, which could pretty much eat up anything Samus throws at him in it\'s path.

    And anywho, say MegaMan did find out Samus is human. He wouldn\'t attack, but that doesn\'t mean Samus would automatically win.

    Think about it... she wouldn\'t attack, either. :P

    [Edited on 7-3-2006 by FlareMan]


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    Dr. Light wins! Rock gives all his weapons to dr. light at the end of ever game! And since Dr. Light drinks alot, random Astro Crushes= win. :rofl: XDDDDDD


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    Morph- your question about Samus? (Nintendo- please clarifiy) She IS from Nintendo. No Capcom or whatever- just Nintendo. Kinda like how Mario bros. is just Nintendo.

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    I will now prove the ways in which Megaman could hurt Samus.

    Actually, if Megaman was Asimov certified, he could still kill Wily. See, Asimov\'s laws go in order of importance.

    Law 1: A robot may not harm a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

    Law 2: A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    Law 3: A robot must protect its own existence, as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

    So the higher the number, the less important the law becomes. However, Asimov later added another law which is more important than any other law.

    The Zeroth Law.

    The character R. Daneel Olivaw is the first to give the Law a name, in the novel Robots and Empire; however, Susan Calvin articulates the concept in the short story \"The Evitable Conflict\". In Robots and Empire, R. Giskard Reventlov was the first robot to act according to the Zeroth Law, although it proved destructive to his positronic brain, as he was not certain as to whether his choice would turn out to be for the ultimate good of humanity or not. R. Daneel, over the course of many thousand years, was able to adapt himself to be able to fully obey the Zeroth Law. As Daneel formulated it, the Zeroth Law reads

    0. A robot may not injure humanity, or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

    A condition stating that the Zeroth Law must not be broken was added to the original Laws.

    A translator incorporated the concept of the Zeroth Law into one of Asimov\'s novels before Asimov himself made the Law explicit. Near the climax of The Caves of Steel, Elijah Baley makes a bitter comment to himself, thinking that the First Law forbids a robot from harming a human being, unless the robot is clever enough to rationalize that its actions are for the human\'s long-term good. In Jacques Brécard\'s 1956 French translation, entitled Les cavernes d\'acier, Baley\'s thoughts emerge in a slightly different way:

    Un robot ne doit faire aucun tort à un homme, à moins qu\'il trouve un moyen de prouver qu\'en fin de compte le tort qu\'il aura causé profit à l\'humanité en général!

    Translated back into English, this reads, \"A robot may not harm a human being, unless he finds a way to prove that in the final reckoning, the wrong he caused profits humanity in general.\"

    If he could convince himself that Samus was a threat to humanity, his programming would allow him to attack her.

    Here\'s another way.

    Take the story \"Little Lost Robot\"

    At Hyper Base, a research station on a asteroid, scientists are working to develop the hyperspace drive - a theme that is explored and developed in several of Asimov\'s stories and mentioned inter alia in the Empire and Foundation books. One of the researchers loses his temper, swears at a NS-2 (Nestor) robot and tells the robot to \"...get lost\". Obeying orders, it does just that. It is then up to US Robots\' Chief Robopsychologist Dr Susan Calvin, and Mathematical Director Peter Bogert, to try and find it. The problem is that they know exactly where it is: in a room with sixty-two identical robots.

    So, why was this individual robot so important? The answer is that it had had its First Law of Robotics modified, to read \"No robot may injure a human being\", i.e. it could happily leave a human to die by other means. Again, we explore the ambiguities of the English language; a technician who wanted a robot to leave told it to \"Go Lose Yourself\", and the robot assumed that the order meant that it should hide itself. In Little Lost Robot, the Frankenstein complex is again addressed. The reason that the robot must be found is because people are still by and large scared of robots, and if they found one with a different First Law there would be an outcry, even though the robot is still incapable of directly harming a human. However, Dr Calvin added further urgency by hypothesising a situation whereby the altered law could allow the robot to arguably harm or even kill a person. The robot could feasibly drop a weight it knew it could catch before it would land on a human. Upon releasing the weight, its altered programming would allow it to simply let the weight drop, since it need no longer prevent a human from coming to harm.

    There is however, a much easier way for him to harm Samus.

    The Solarians eventually created robots with the Three Laws as normal but with a warped meaning of \"human\". Solarian robots were told that only people speaking with a Solarian accent were human. This way, their robots did not have any problem harming non-Solarian human beings (and were specifically programmed to do so).

    In other words, as long as Megaman thought she wasn\'t human, he could attack her.