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At the end of kh2 there is a secret movie that is showing signs for a kh3.The movie is three hevily armored men holding keyblades.They are staring at soras keyblade Kiris keyblade and rikus.They are standing in what looks like a keyblade grave yard.Apperintly there may be KEYBLADE WAR!has any of you seen this movie?


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I have seen the movie, and I will point out that two things you said are false. Since you marked the topic title with Spoilers, I will not use spoiler tags here.

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The movie is three hevily armored men holding keyblades.They are staring at soras keyblade Kiris keyblade and rikus.


Actually, there are two men and a woman. The three keyblades in the ground are Sora's, Riku's, and Mickey's.

Also, as an added observation by myself, the "Keyblade grave" resembles the crossroad seen at the end of Reverse Rebirth, if not the same crossroad. That's all I have concluded from seeing the video so far, though.

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Well if you guys want to review it, you can also see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ZpUcGaIeI

Anyways, this hidden video really bothers me. I mean all those keyblades... *shivers* it looks like a graveyard. And yes, there does look like there are two men and one woman. But, there is a blurry fourth figure walking to them. To me, the blurry figure kinda looks like it's wearing one of those black robes Organiztion 13 had, just the way it looks. And they sort of look like they have two weapons.

Sounds like Roxas to me, but it can't be.

Or they might not have weapons at all and it could just be their arms.
But, with the robe thing, it couldn't be a member of Organiztion 13 since they are all dead, and Roxas is absorbed so yeah...
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And another thing. These phrases flash by...

- Master of Keyblade
- The Lost Two
- Memory of Xehanort
- Chasers
- Keyblade War

Now on a KH board I joined, they have a theory that those ones in armour are called 'Chasers' since it flashes by. Hmmm, I like talking about this. ^_^ Very mysterious.



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Keep in mind that Nomura state that "They ARE NOT any of the characters that we know.

Also i've read theories about this game being about Xehanort's past and playing as him.


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I read it somewhere i havent beaten the game yet.


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If you ask me, K_S, then the guy in the hood is Zexion.

C'mon! They even messed up his tombstone..There's got to be more to him.

And for the record, I don't trust Nomura-san...he's a bit of a flip-flopper. >:x

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Well I am hoping that they actually show some of Organization 13! I mean some of them were beaten so fast! They can't just pull Nobodies into this and then have them dissappear!

And I wanna know what it means by 'The Lost Two'. This will be urking me for a while. :/



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Ok, here is part of an interview from the creator, Tetsuya Nomura, and what he had to say on the secret ending:

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After the ending, there's a secret movie this time, too. What exactly is the movie trying to tell?
I actually have a solid idea on what the movie's setting will be in my head. In the previous game's secret movie, I wasn't even sure if I would be making a sequel or not, so some parts of it were quite vague. But this time I already have an idea my head where I think "This is it."

Did that scene happen in the future or in the past?
I would at least say it's an episode in the past, but.... Hmm, how should I say this? It's in the past but you can also think it's in the future, something like that.

Who are the 3 armoured people?
Those 3 are completely new people who haven't shown up at all. In fact, I've already thought of their names. Back when I was making that movie, I only had their settings but now I've even drawn their faces to give myself a clearer image of them.

The king, Sora and Riku's keyblades were there, too.
It's to show that those three armoured people aren't them but that doesn't mean they don't have connections. The words "Keyblade War" that showed up in the middle were to implicate that there were fights between Keyblades. Most of the puzzles in the first KH have been solved in KHII but there are many things about the Keyblade that haven't been revealed yet. A line from the previous game's Ansem Report #8 appeared in the movie but that is to say "It means this but it's not explained yet."

Does that mean you already have a plot for KHIII?
Hmm... I have an idea but it can't be helped because my team are planning to work on our next different title. So we're not working on KHIII now and we're not planning to work on it for some time, too. I have a plot in my head but I'm not sure if it'll be released to the world or just stay in there.


Movie of the secret ending is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlbrQLhNKzI

Now... my guess is that
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the three armor people, AP for now, are the Chasers. They bring Chaos and Ruin upon anyone they choose, and the person walking toward them is the last of the Pure Keybladers, or good guys. When they show the first one, it shows that once he jumps down from whatever he is standing on, it scatters into the wind. Could it be part of the planet, just fading away, or some new enemy? Or possibly a Heartless/Nobody?
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But as I look at the definition of a Chaser:

chas·er2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing.
2. A steel tool for cutting or finishing screw threads.

Meaning that they may also be the ones that created the Keyblades. :O

At the end, it mentions something about, "It all began with... Birth by sleep." I don't know what it means. I have thought about it and have even asked around about it. No one is completely sure.

If you look closely in the movie, you can see Fenrir sitting there. But something is wrong with these keyblades. Can you tell? They don't have keychains. Not one in the entire field, with the exception of the three in the center and possibly the three weapons the three APs had, has a keychain. This makes me wonder if there were forged replicas of Keyblades, made to seem like the original, but weaker or something. Or possibly, when a Keyblade Wielder dies/loses his heart completely, the keychain disappears/shatters, and sets the Keyblade in status/makes it unusable.

And Nomura said something about it being in the past... but in the future. Maybe this has to connect with the "Memory of Xehanort", so maybe this is a data file in his computer when he was working with the true Ansem, just now accessed by Cid and the gang, showing them something in Xehanort's mind? Maybe he had something to do with Mickey and Sora getting their Keyblades. I dunno.


Tis only a theory.

Edited by Enix on May 5, 2006 at 21:43:26.

Edited by Enix on May 5, 2006 at 21:45:15.


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It makes sense. Xigbar indirectly states there was more than one Keyblade wielder. Perhaps KH3 will tell the tale of the first wielder, and how this business with the Heartless began.

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That would be cool. Now I really want to play.

But wait, then why can Mickey and Riku weild a keyblade? Roxas is understandable since he's Sora's Nobody, but why the other two?

And Xigbar did say Sora looked weaker (or whatever) compared to the 'other ones'. Or he could have been comparing Sora to Roxas. :/



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Hmm... I have an idea but it can't be helped because my team are planning to work on our next different title. So we're not working on KHIII now and we're not planning to work on it for some time, too. I have a plot in my head but I'm not sure if it'll be released to the world or just stay in there.


Yeah, it would be best if you just let it die, Nomura. Along with your halfassed character designs with everyone and their mother wearing at least 6 belts at once on places where they're not even needed. PROTIP: Heavy, repeating contrast on clothing is NOT a good idea.

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Well, most people call it "blunt and honest" but you can call it whatever you'd like.

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To be honest I'm very curious on this clip. So curious I'm writing a story about it. I know it's gonna be wrong if another KH comes out, but, all in good fun, eh?


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Well, most people call it "blunt and honest" but you can call it whatever you'd like.


Actually, I'd call that "inappropriately stated opinion".

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Actually, I'd call that "inappropriately stated opinion".


I can't call Nomura a hack? Since when? :o It's not like he's here reading the posts, if he was I'd change my post to this:

Hey Nomura, really...why all the belts? I honestly want to know why you add belts to every single character. Don't lie either, I know there are hidden belts. And it's alright if you have a thing for buckles. But you add belts in ridiculous places. And the ultimate...DiZ is entirely covered in belts, I bet that made you happy huh?

And also yeah, can we ease up on the KH? It's bad enough that you can't get any other characters than your own in there, since Amano makes better character designs, and therefore we get the same old thing over and over..just some characters have more belts and more ridiculousness (Clouds Vincent arm and black wing definitely)... So yeah, maybe if you make something else for a while, you'll get some more ideas and less belts.

I have offended KH fanboys' God, I am ready for smiting O Holy "Tetsuya-san". (For future knowledge Met, it's supposed to be Nomura-san)

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Hey Nomura, really...why all the belts? I honestly want to know why you add belts to every single character. Don't lie either, I know there are hidden belts. And it's alright if you have a thing for buckles. But you add belts in ridiculous places. And the ultimate...DiZ is entirely covered in belts, I bet that made you happy huh?


People need belts to hold up their pants, hun. Some people might need more than others. It depends how stubborn your pants may be.


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And also yeah, can we ease up on the KH? It's bad enough that you can't get any other characters than your own in there, since Amano makes better character designs, and therefore we get the same old thing over and over..just some characters have more belts and more ridiculousness (Clouds Vincent arm and black wing definitely)... So yeah, maybe if you make something else for a while, you'll get some more ideas and less belts.


KH is suppose to be a mixture of Disney and Final Fantasy characters, to make it something you wouldn't expect. Get over it, I'm sure you can.

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I have offended KH fanboys' God, I am ready for smiting O Holy "Tetsuya-san". (For future knowledge Met, it's supposed to be Nomura-san)


Hello? You could have offended random KH fangirls that randomly read this topic. But not me. ^^ I've learned to not really care about these things.

Now that Hollow has gotten us off-topic of the video, how about we get back?

- Maybe if they make a game like KH: Final Mix like they did for the first game for the second (confusing post) then maybe there will be a hidden video with more to it for that. ^^




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Actually, I'd call that "inappropriately stated opinion".


I can't call Nomura a hack? Since when? :o It's not like he's here reading the posts, if he was I'd change my post to this:

Hey Nomura, really...why all the belts? I honestly want to know why you add belts to every single character. Don't lie either, I know there are hidden belts. And it's alright if you have a thing for buckles. But you add belts in ridiculous places. And the ultimate...DiZ is entirely covered in belts, I bet that made you happy huh?

And also yeah, can we ease up on the KH? It's bad enough that you can't get any other characters than your own in there, since Amano makes better character designs, and therefore we get the same old thing over and over..just some characters have more belts and more ridiculousness (Clouds Vincent arm and black wing definitely)... So yeah, maybe if you make something else for a while, you'll get some more ideas and less belts.

I have offended KH fanboys' God, I am ready for smiting O Holy "Tetsuya-san". (For future knowledge Met, it's supposed to be Nomura-san)


You can say what you like. But it'd be much better if your reasons were actually good ones.

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People need belts to hold up their pants, hun. Some people might need more than others. It depends how stubborn your pants may be.


People need belts on their arms to hold up their pants..? Belts across their foreheads..? Belts across their faces..? Three belts up their thighs..belts across their shoes..?

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That'd be fine if it wasn't all Nomura's characters. I was excited to hear they added Vivi and Setzer, but supposedly both of them did jack.

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Hello? You could have offended random KH fangirls that randomly read this topic. But not me. ^^ I've learned to not really care about these things.


If you didn't care, you wouldn't have replied, that's obvious. :)

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Cute edit there, so my opinions are "retarded"? My my, so I deviate from the drooling obsessive fanboys and my opinion suddenly becomes "retarded". I guess all the people I know that prefer FF 8 over 7..their opinions are invalid and "retarded" too huh?

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KH is suppose to be a mixture of Disney and Final Fantasy characters, to make it something you wouldn't expect. Get over it, I'm sure you can.


That'd be fine if it wasn't all Nomura's characters. I was excited to hear they added Vivi and Setzer, but supposedly both of them did jack.


They were part of the storyline for about... 15 minutes, at most. Combined.


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Cute edit there, so my opinions are "retarded"? My my, so I deviate from the drooling obsessive fanboys and my opinion suddenly becomes "retarded". I guess all the people I know that prefer FF 8 over 7..their opinions are invalid and "retarded" too huh?


If you're gonna complain, complain about a worthy issue. Belts are not a worthy issue. Whether you like his game or not just for the sake of liking it or not is not a worthy issue. Perhaps complaining about the plot or the gameplay may not be up your alley, but hey, it's a great way to be taken seriously.

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You know, Hollow, I usually like your whole, blunt, "I don't care what people say" attitude, but today you're even getting on my nerves. I mean... belts? No offense, but that IS a retarted thing to judge a game on. Honestly, if you haven't even played it, I don't think there should be much to say. And by what you said, "I've heard such and such," you haven't played it. You're allowed to go on and dislike it, but you're being insulting about it to those of us who do. I don't see a reason to bite heads off here. Are you just in one of those moods? =/

And HD, why are you rising to the occasion? Must you respond to everything, instead of letting it die already? Really, you two. I'd expect better than petty bickering over a silly game. I'm thinking her it's because you just don't like each other... And in that case, I'd think you could resolve your personal vendettas elsewhere.

As for being on topic, I wouldn't mind a KH3 if it ever came around. I think the games are just fun to play, and the story, whether people think it's done well or not, suffices in my mind. I can read between the lines and be happy. Now stop and think, people- most here are Megaman fans, and that story's pretty underdeveloped, too! XD

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Shoot, I barely know Hollow. Again, you play KH2 to kick the crap out of stuff.

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[quote]Originally posted by Rioni Riishu
[color=Orange] You know, Hollow, I usually like your whole, blunt, "I don't care what people say" attitude, but today you're even getting on my nerves. I mean... belts? No offense, but that IS a retarted thing to judge a game on.[/quote]

Lawlz. See this is funny because I'm talking about Nomura. I am talking about his character designs, ALL of them, including his FF ones. I am not judging KH based on his character designs alone. XD I'm saying "Nomura-san" should work on something else, maybe even manga, because that seems to be his element.. His storylines are fast and confusing, his characters all have some oddball quirk to them, to make them stand out in black and white.. He just seems better suited to manga.

He seems really burnt out, I mean look at the characters in FFX. Add his characters that he puts goofy outfits on for KH (Seifer just looks awful, like Fred Durst), with the so-so storyline, and the random button mashing, and oh what's this? Jack Sparrow? What the hell is he doing there... XD

Sure, people can find it fun all they want to, I'm not saying it's lolz stoopid or anything. It's just another one of those games, like FF7, where people act like it's a gift from God above and it has no flaws. Infact that's one of the main reasons I refuse to play this game. With Nomura behind it, and fanboys all over it like some cheap hooker, I know it's just another FF7.

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Well, FF7 was good, too...

Dude, Seifer DOES look like Fred Durst in KH. I'm not the only one who thinks so! x_x

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Actually, I must agree. Seifer looks like CRAP in KH2.

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I think we all agree that Seifer looks like crap....it made it all the more enjoyable to bash his head in with a whiffle bat!

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*grumbles* Seifer looks funny, blah blah blah... move this stuff about Seifer over to the Kingdom Hearts 2 topic. I strongly doubt that Seifer is in or has anything to do with the secret video or KH 3. He plays a minor role.

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Hey, and in this, it said "It all begins...with birth by sleep." Well maybe, somehow, Sora created this when he was in his deep sleep.

Maybe? Maybe not.