It's a novel. A NOVEL. Why are people taking that stuff so seriously?

Edited by Dr. Cossack on May 31, 2006 at 23:40:25.

BCE is used by the religions that don't believe in Jesus... at least most of them. If schools would stop teaching about Jesus in a history book since his existence is an UNPROVEN THEORY (and not a excessively likely one such as gravity), that would be great. Same applies to BC/AD... yes it has been is use for a long period of time, but the majority of people don't really think about the fact that it's religious. Same thing with the Pledge of Allegiance being mandatory... schools should NOT punish people for not saying they love their country... that one's in freedom of speech. I would agree on both things EVEN IF I WERE CATHOLIC, or any sort of Christian... more on this later as I'm being kicked out for no reason here =\.

From my point of view, it really looks like you do odd things in your schools...

Umm... ever heard of a book called Holy Bible? Farinheight 451? Etc.


B.C.E.'s counterpart is C.E., not A.C.E. B.C. and A.D. are based solely on one religion, which not even a majority of people in the world follow yet that is the world's calander. (Remember, we don't just have Pagans and Atheists; we have Hindus, Muslims, Taosists (native Japanese/Asian), etc., and a very large portion of American population is West Asian which is uslaly either Sikh or Hindu). C.E. and B.C.E., being not based on any religion, would be the correct thing to use both due to the fact of American law of separation of church & state and doe to the fact that it's not only America who uses it, it's 99% of the world.

Boycotting the film would be stupid regardless of whether or not it brings publicity; it would be the deranged fans you need to "boycott" (or otherwise take care of ;)).

There is much evidence, and debate,as to whether or not Jesus Christ was supposed to have been married, as seen in those four topics by WindRider(tilde). I haven't persaonlly looked into this as it is really not important for debates, but this is a commonly-discussed thing and not just Wind who talks about it, though that was the first place I'd seen it. I subsequently found it in lots of other places. Where he doesn't frequent.

Kagome_Sakura: "If it were true it would be written in Holy Bible"
-not true, there's the dead sea scrolls among others, as well as the faact that half the bible didn't actually exists at first, as well as all the mulitple translations and purposeful omission and additions by former political powerplyers (example: one king had the word "poisoner" purposely mistranslated to "witch," since witches make brews and potions and use to be the village healer, many people feared they could too easily poison them and therefore the words at the time in the language they were translating from were very similar).

I have seen Evanescence listed under the heading "Christian music." I have also seen Pokemon declared to be an evil manipulation of the Christianized versio of Satan because you have to "control and manipulate other beings" in the game... juts as you have in every video game in the histiry of video games, but yeah...


Hmm, that's odd, my world history book never once has Jesus Christ written in it, and I have the standard book used by Ohio public schools. Maybe because they aren't allowed to teach it in public schools? As someone who's been in Christian private and public schools, let me say this much. Even the Christian schools don't talk about Jesus in the history books, just in the chapel classes.[/quote]

Umm are you sure about that; have ou read the entire book? Generally history classes do not cover the whole book, that would takemore then half-a-year! They just pick various chapters to teach from, and in a lot of school istory also includes social studies or geography. IN my 5th grade and my 9th grade history books, it mention a guy first name Jesus last name Christ, who was a living person and startedwalking around and teaching people things. According to the book, he involuntairily gained a bunch of followers who would literally (depcited by pictures) physically follow him as he traveled around. 20 or so years later a religion popped p called Christianity, which was based on the thing he had taught them. Uhh... it idin't really mention how any sort of god would have fit into all that, but yeah it was there either way. Stupidly at the time I believed it was truth just because it was written in a textbook, which in my limited mind at the time only contained truth.

"I guarantee you at least half the people in the U.S. don't even know that Anno Domini(A.D.) means "in the year of our lord"."

Exactly my point, or half of it anyway. Do you believe that the people especially Americans (since they're the most ignornat) should continue to be uneducated about everything? I learned it's meaning at about 15.

Has anyone, previous to the last 10 years, protested the Federal Reserve? Had anyone protested the addition of "One nation under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance (was not included in nthe original version) or the fact that small children are told to stand up and pledge alligence to a country they are not only to young to know anything about but also to young to make *any* sort of alligence unless it is extremely personal and not prompted? Has anyone protested the use of paper currency? Does that mean we should not change it? This is AMERICA. There are way too many unconstitutional things that need to be changed to protest them all! (By the way people also protest Christianity, Paganism, and Satanism... does that mean we should eliminate them?)

Also I never once said that the Pledge of Allegiance is currently mandatory in every single school in the entire country. That does not however mean that there are not teachers who will give you detention or yell at you if you don't say it, and this does not mean that 8 years ago this was not an extremely common thing for them to do. At the very least, almost *every* teacher would "nudge" you and say something like, "It's Pledge of Alligence time; Tony, Altina, stand up." Even if they do not punish or "talk" to you for it. There were a few kids in my Jr. High school who this was mentioned to as a matter of "discipline," :not listening," and "conduct problems." And for most kids at that age that is probably true rather then them purposefully not saying it because they actually have any idea of what their doing, regardless however it should not be brought up because if you don't KNOW what you're doing that makes the crime of impressing that you "should" do it even worse.

And why, for the love of gods, do keep underlining the word "public? As if every single person who posts on this board about school-related political or religious matters didn't go to public school unless they post otherwise.

Yeah Hollow, we would have kids mouthing the words too. Point is, you shoudln't have to stand or mouth the words, or refrain from whispering if you weren't suposed to refrain from whispering before and after it, and America is *supposed* to know this. Writing a pledge is all fine and dandy, having it publicly said at military events for those who choose to do so is also fine, but having it over the loudspeaker every day or whatever shouldn't be done at all, that IS a dictatorship because it teaches it as something that is "suppsoed" to be done like making your bed rather then an Oath to optionally pledge to yourself and/or in public after long years of studying your country's politics and history.

Guess Doc confirms the suspicion that I actually had no idea and wasn't going to post... in other countries labeled as "free," such as Canada, they do not teach children to take Oaths at the age of 5 in their classrooms, optional or not...

Edited by God on July 24, 2008 at 6:38:06.