Just think of planet Earth.

Now think of the vastness of outer space.

It\'s crazy but true, how space goes on to infinity. I can\'t begin to describe just how far out space truly is because there is no end or starting point in the universe.

Doesn\'t that just blow your mind?!

Think of space as having a beginning and an end. Where\'s the starting point? Where\'s it finish?


Bet you couldn\'t come up with an answer, could you? That\'s because space is infinite so obviously their has to be something before and after the beginning and the end.


Makes the entire Earth seem like a grain of sand in a sandbox, hm?


Anyways, I thought this would be something interesting to talk about. I\'d like to here some of your thoughts on the subject. Tell me what you think and/or feel about it.

[Edited on 23-6-2004 by Arkane]

It doesn\'t blow my mind, but it\'s hard to concentrate thinking how far it goes. It would be fun to explore once we can make space travel farther than our solar system. After all, it is infinite, so there\'s infinite things to see. ^^

[font=Trebuchet MS]It\'ll be the day the creation of a spaceship going beyond the impossible comes along in the near future. [/font]

If you\'re talking about the concept of infinity, yes it does. My girlfriend says if her love was put into a number, it would be infinity. I use to take that lightly, but when you really think about it, it mind-blowing.

Very Interesting. You go straight, and keep going, and expect to come to Earth again. But, you would keep going. It seems like for one spot, there is a circle to take to come back, yet with this infinity theory, you just keep going, and going, and you will never get back. Run out of fuel, starve to death, or even crash into a meteor. All that wil; happen before you het to the end of infinity, because there is no end to it!

You really got mew thinking. I\'ll have to think about this more......

I\'ve heard too, that there are these transparent creatures that roam in space. They travel like energy, and go against physical objects, like Earth the moon, even the sun. The are what we would call anti-matter. Pretty cool!

Space is infinite. It\'s not nothing. Nothing in this world, and even outside of it is nothing. Everything has to be something. Space is something that is beyond our human control. So we\'ve labeled it as infinite.

If debris can leave space, it must wind up somewhere else, even if it\'s 500,000 million miles away from its original point. But it never actually leaves space. Nothing will ever go outside of space or infinite. It is literaly impossible. All you can do is put it aside and take for what it is.

Off topic:

By the way, I don\'t mind you calling me Bass but I\'d prefere Arkane or even Ark or Arkie. But you can call me whatever you want.

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What the hell is this?

Endless rabble on the concept of infinity.

No, it doesn\'t blow my mind. I concentrate on the current day, and in no possible way will anyone here ever encounter any relevant occurence with infinity.

Why should it blow your mind when no one gives a damned about it?

Great, Bass or Arkane or whatever your name is..you aroused Kei with your theorizing. :rofl:

Infinity doesn\'t blow my mind, I do find it interesting though. But..transparent space creatures? What are those scientists smoking?

Ok, I\'m not going to rant, but... we were given a planet and I\'m going to presume by what I believe that it\'s the best one out there. So I don\'t really consider what\'s out there as much. We were given this planet, and we should do the best we can here. Visit outer space, maybe. Live there, impossible.
Er... but yeah, the concept of infinity is kinda sorta somethin\' like interesting. Anybody remember that part in Douglas Adams\' \"The Restaurant at the End of the Universe\" where Zaphod Beeblbrox learns his place in the universe?

It personally just makes me think. I think the universe may be some kind of a ring, as in if you go in one direction for so long you\'ll eventually end up back where you started.

To Arkane: Maybe I misunderstood, but did you say these \"space creatures\" are called anti-matter? Because that\'s not right. Anti-matter has not been found in nature. Anti-matter is matter with an electrical charge opposite of what it is. It all leads to subatomic particles. Every subatomic particle has an opposite, each which is called by the original\'s name with anti infront of it, except with electrons, whose antiparticle is the positron.

Well, they\'ve just been known to exceed physical matter. And matter is something with a mass right? These creatures apperently have no mass.

I said Anti-matter because that\'s what they are, but that\'s not the definition of the word.

Also, they are not found in nature.

okay, think of it the way Sage Cryst said it: space is an absence of anything. We, as beings of earth, are simply holes in this absence, where something exists. Space itself, since it is nothing, cannot be measured to see if it is expanding or contracting. if you were to head to the \"end of the universe\", which would most likely contain space, which is nothing, what would you expect to find there? more nothingness? or a something? very confusing. but my theory is that if you were to travel out into space far enough, away from the \"edge\" of the universe, you would eventually become an anomyly(sp?), existing as matter in a place where nothing else existed. no light, no planets, no stars, nothingness. and then you would be so very bored.:zzz:

Anti-matter doesn\'t exist in nature but scientists have been able to make anti-matter...well, anti-hydrogen anyway. They took a hydrogen particle and bombarded it with xenon particles, of course when anti-matter touches matter (I.E. the air in the room) it explodes, so the anti-matter only existed for a fraction of a second.

Now, as for infinity, when I was younger it did baffle me, but the older I get, the more I just, accept it, as a human, I can never really know what happens out there. All we can really do is theorize. Although, maybe there is just a point where one universe ends, and another begins. Which brings me to my next theory, alternate dimensions.

Perhaps every time that there is more than one possibility for something that is happening, it branches off into seperate dimensions. In each of which one of the possibilities took place, therefore, being that there are infinite possibilities, even in one situation, there are infinitely many dimensions. Or it could just be two dimensions, like in Futurama, one with us, and one with us in cowboy hats.:lol:

EDIT: stupid typos

[Edited on 26-6-2004 by the_dreamer36]

I bet humanity will wipe out soon, look how people are treating earth!!!I dought we will get human even out of the milkyway.

This consept reminds me of black holes...isn\'t that kind of like it? You disappear somewhere and come back anywhere any time?

I believe that you are thinking of worm holes. A black hole is a collapsed star that has so much gravity that even light cannot escape, and the laws of physics actually change.

[Edited on 29-6-2004 by the_dreamer36]

O sorry..I thought black holes were the same thing as worm holes. Thanks.

I\'m glad I could help. But you brought up a good point. Perhaps at the end of the universe, there is just one giant worm hole which transports you to the next universe if you go through it.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. That isn\'t very nice...

It once gave blew me away when I was thinking about it, how it goes on without ending. How it can go so deep and have no end. Then I thought about the human life. When we die, we live forever? That thought just gave me major stress so I forgot about it and moved on.

Infinity is just a concept when you think about it. But Arkane is talking about the infinity of space, which in essence, is merely a non-existent non-entity concept created by the human mind. Space, as in the space between the planets and that \"out-there\" area actually DOES have limits. But it is actually expanding. JUst...more slowly than at first.