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American companies in action. This seriously sucks.
Chrono Trigger Resurrection got a cease and decist letter from Squenix forcing the cancellation of a very promising fan-game.

http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=5588

The team has posted some impressive new screens, and even a trailer, but are forced to stop development.

The small development team behind fan game Chrono Trigger: Resurrection has posted some very disappointing news: they have received a Cease and Desist letter from Square Enix demanding they stop making their game. It seems after years of looking the other way, Square Enix has changed its policy on independently-created games honoring their own.

Perhaps it was the quality of the project that triggered this unprecedented response so far into development. Chrono Trigger Resurrection sports professional quality artwork that has further improved since its last showing.

They left the first and last trailer video of it here
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It really is very lame of SquareEnix to pull crap like that, especially after I believe they send Enix mail reporting what they were doing at the start of the project.

As for the game I would really look forward to playing, I beyond a doubt know it wouldn\'t ever fill its snes version\'s shoes but I still would like to give it a try anyway in 3d. What I found very pleasing is those fans know that game down to the last detail. The environment is pretty much exact to snes Chrono, and they didn\'t touch the music. Whoo~


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American companies in action. This seriously sucks.
Chrono Trigger Resurrection got a cease and decist letter from Squenix forcing the cancellation of a very promising fan-game.

http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=5588

The team has posted some impressive new screens, and even a trailer, but are forced to stop development.

The small development team behind fan game Chrono Trigger: Resurrection has posted some very disappointing news: they have received a Cease and Desist letter from Square Enix demanding they stop making their game. It seems after years of looking the other way, Square Enix has changed its policy on independently-created games honoring their own.

Perhaps it was the quality of the project that triggered this unprecedented response so far into development. Chrono Trigger Resurrection sports professional quality artwork that has further improved since its last showing.

They left the first and last trailer video of it here
Make sure to have DivX to play it.

* Unknown_Entity RAPID STABBING ACTION TO SQUENIX


That\'s evil. So, they want to never again have CT grace the light of day again? The bastards!

[Edited on 9/7/2004 by Mega X.exe]

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This is a real shame, that game looked superb, I don\'t think I\'ve seen any fan game like it. Well, you have to respect the ownership of the company, though I really would have liked to see this, even more play it seeing that I was a great fan of the original Crono Trigger. I\'ll just sit here and wach the trailer a few houndred times then :lol:


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They probably cancelled it because they wanna make it too and pretend that they had the idea since the beggining...or something like that. But it\'s still a real shame that it got cancelled. I was looking foward to it.


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Man, ever since Squaresoft merged with Enix they have really gone down the toilet.

Of course I was reading about the Zelda project shutdown and in the comments someone said that in copyright law, if you don\'t enforce your copyright, you lose it, so perhaps that is why all these fan games are shutting down.


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*Ahem* Que Hollow now.


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I\'m SO happy this game was canned. *pats Squenix on the back*

No one, and I mean no one fucks with Chrono Trigger EXCEPT for Hiranobu Sakaguchi, Yuji Horii, and if you want to stay \'pure\' (which I would want to) you have to have Akira Toriyama as well. And hell, throw in Tetsuya Nomura too, to freak people out in the ending again. ;)

It\'s \"cute\" that these people wanted to make a 3D version of Chrono Trigger. Whatever. Chrono Trigger is perfect the way it is, doesn\'t need to be turned to 3D.

Now I\'m sure they\'re going to get alot of people to be angry at Squenix for canning their project. Boo frickin hoo. Make a game of your own and don\'t release it to the public. :lol:

So yeah, this made my day. :D

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Hollow, CT does need to be remade. Most \"X\" generation gamers play a game for the graphics. CT just doesn\'t live up to those standards. When exposed to a 3d CT they\'d be drawn to it, and might be drawn to the other aspects of gaming

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I\'m a bit torn, but I agree with Hollow on some points. I think the team should have done a fan-sequel to Chrono Trigger instead of trying to remake the original. That alone could have helped a bit with Square Enix, and would have avoided screwing up with the original game.

The part of the game that I really cared about what the remade soundtrack by Matthew Valente. I have a few of the song samples he made available for download, and they sound really great. Oh well.


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Hollow, CT does need to be remade. Most \"X\" generation gamers play a game for the graphics. CT just doesn\'t live up to those standards. When exposed to a 3d CT they\'d be drawn to it, and might be drawn to the other aspects of gaming


No it does not need a remake.

Who the hell CARES if \"X\" gamers even know what Chrono Trigger IS?

I know I don\'t. I know I prefer the original game as it was meant to be, and I don\'t want it being altered for these goddamn n00b videogamers.

All the original needs, is a perfect translation. I\'d like to see that, with the Japanese names for all things, and all the original dialogue. Otherwise no one needs to touch it. Ever.

(Can anyone see I\'m a rabid CT fan?)

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Really although I would like to play it in 3d I really bet that would only be a few minutes before I just scrapped it and whipped out my snes version. I think of Chrono Trigger as a game that can\'t really get any better, then if so, why make a remake of it? I personally take comfort and a little smugness when I hear somebody hasen\'t even heard of Chrono Trigger. Well it sucks for them but if they do know about it... you just made a friend.

What I really hate that Nintendo seems to do the most out of all consoles is bring back their older games. Maybe something like the NES games for Animal Crossing would be fine, but when they start with making you do something to get a bonus OoT Zelda game, and they don\'t need to bring out all of the greatest snes games to a gba. I love Breath of Fire, Tales of Phantasia, Link to the Past, Super Mario and stuff, but when they just convert it to a different system... I dunno why but it \'chaps my hide.\' The classics are exactly like the name says, \"classics\" and so they should be, not rehashed and brought back every 3 years or so for more profit. You would think people don\'t want to buy Pac-man or Dig Dug on a new mega bit whatever system, you would think releasing 8 bit games was heading back wards, but they do it every system for the younger gamers.

And maybe I\'m selfish or something but if you are a young gamer, who cares if you haven\'t played the Zelda nes. If you don\'t get off your ass and look into the older systems you don\'t really need to have the privilege to play it. But no.... Nintendo can\'t let the classic die and be respected they must re-use it for Animal Crossing, Zelda Collector\'s Edition, GBA classics. And the GBA classic.... 20$ for a Donkey Kong? I\'m telling you, it should take the average person 6 minutes to beat a 3 level game. So why is it 20$? And why are people buying it? If your an older gamer you should have the actually Donkey Kong for nes.

So yeah... Nintendo like everybody else wants to make a profit but don\'t sell out some of your best games for it. Stop being so damned lazy and make better games for that series if that one was so popular.


I\'ve kind of been typing for a while now o.O I don\'t even think I remember how I got from Chrono to how Nintendo is consisted of cheap bastards >.>

EDIT: I got a little confusing for one part... I think I\'m still pretty confusing on this though >.>

[Edited on 8-9-2004 by Gutter Mouth]

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Hollow, CT does need to be remade. Most \"X\" generation gamers play a game for the graphics. CT just doesn\'t live up to those standards. When exposed to a 3d CT they\'d be drawn to it, and might be drawn to the other aspects of gaming


No it does not need a remake.


I can see neither of us will be swayed on that part

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Who the hell CARES if \"X\" gamers even know what Chrono Trigger IS?


Um, I do, they are part of my age group.

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I know I don\'t. I know I prefer the original game as it was meant to be, and I don\'t want it being altered for these goddamn n00b videogamers.


Which you aren\'t better than, regardless of how much you think you are :rolleyes:

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All the original needs, is a perfect translation. I\'d like to see that, with the Japanese names for all things, and all the original dialogue. Otherwise no one needs to touch it. Ever.


In case you haven\'t noticed, that isn\'t going to happen. Unless a n00b gamer messes with it.

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As am I

[Edited on 9/8/2004 by Mega X.exe]

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Part of your age group? And I notice you must have played Chrono Trigger before on an emulator I assume, so why can\'t the rest of your \"age group\" do the same?

I am better than them.

And no, a n00b gamer will not neccessarily do a direct translation. Hell, -I- want to do the translation but I unfortunately can only translate all the katakana. I\'m bad at hiragana. And I\'m not a n00b.

You don\'t seem to be a rabid CT fan.

\"Really although I would like to play it in 3d I really bet that would only be a few minutes before I just scrapped it and whipped out my snes version. I think of Chrono Trigger as a game that can\'t really get any better, then if so, why make a remake of it? I personally take comfort and a little smugness when I hear somebody hasen\'t even heard of Chrono Trigger. Well it sucks for them but if they do know about it... you just made a friend.\"

I feel the same way, Gutter. But it doesn\'t seem like Mega X will get after you for having the same opinion, because he seems to have something against me. :P

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I muse be an older gamer I can remember when games on the NES defined cutting edge :) anyway I remember going out and getting Chrono Trigger for the low low price of only $110 about 5 years ago because I was stupid in my younger days and sold my old copy...anyway on topic now I think it would have looked nice in 3D and all that good stuff but it\'s one of the best games I have ever played and it will always be...and to tell the truth I think it should never have been re-released on the Playstation I had a connection with the SNES version and now it\'s gone forever :(

oh and off topic again ::how can anyone hate you Hollow your the greatest::


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I muse be an older gamer I can remember when games on the NES defined cutting edge :)


Hahaha..yeah, like when Mario 3 was the greatest game ever, and everyone was talking about it.. Mario can fly now, he has a tail!

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anyway I remember going out and getting Chrono Trigger for the low low price of only $110 about 5 years ago because I was stupid in my younger days and sold my old copy...


I got it for 40 bucks, that was ON SALE. SNES games used to be 80 dollars a pop back in the day. This was back in 97 or 98. I don\'t think I have the box, but I do have the two maps/posters and the manual at least. Did your 110 dollar one hopefully come with the box and all? o.o

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but it\'s one of the best games I have ever played and it will always be...


I never knew so many people love CT as much as I do. :lol:

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and to tell the truth I think it should never have been re-released on the Playstation I had a connection with the SNES version and now it\'s gone forever :(


Alot of people do hate the PSX version. I dislike it only because of that slowdown, the music not being played correctly....and how Square sneakily added those godawful anime scenes. They were well done, no doubt. But they tried to connect Chrono Cross to Trigger. That really steamed my broccoli. Plus, Glenn was given short hair in the scenes, when he had long hair in the game..but that\'s just a nitpick.

So yeah, the PSX version wasn\'t needed. It was done in a halfassed fashion. The umm..extra music they added was kind of catchy though. Still, I don\'t like taking a half hour just fighting Lavos because the PSX can\'t handle sprite backgrounds. :P

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oh and off topic again ::how can anyone hate you Hollow your the greatest::


Awww..thank you very much. :) But eh, just some people don\'t get to know me, therefore they only see the \'bitter ogre\' side. :lol: And well, if people attack me what do they expect eh? I eh too much.

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Did your 110 dollar one hopefully come with the box and all? o.o


oh yes it had the box and everything and in very good condition...plus the gamestop I got it from gave me a promo item for another game...I guess because they know that was alot of money to shell out :)


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Maybe not a \"rabid\" fan but still...:P

I don\'t have something against you Hollow. Gutter\'s just passive about his opinions. You are more agressive.

Oh, and J_Hibiki, you are such a suckup :P

BTW Hollow, whether you like it or not. Chrono Cross is connected to Trigger.

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A suck up...nah I respect Hollow, that\'s all..

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But \"You\'re the greatest\"?

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Heh..... Your just being nit picky now Mega. Let the man give his complements, if somebody said, \"Mega is da bomb.\" I would question it. It\'s really opinion. If you like (as for the sake of an example) basketball. You go up to mac daddy Shaq and say, \"Your the greatest.\" Your showing respect, and thats all Hibiki was doing.

Anyways, even just by moving Chrono to that PSX game they altered it a lot. A lot of unneeded altering too.


I shall now take this time to brag. *Holds Chrono Trigger box and cartridge over head* (Holy music starts to play.) I believe I shelled out 40 or 60 clams to get my grubby little hands on it a few years ago ^^. For some reason, right now I can\'t think if I have the manual or not. Either way... I don\'t need no emulator. They only times I really use an emu. is for foreign games they never brought into English.

[Edited on 9-9-2004 by Gutter Mouth]

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Game companies don\'t like fan games because they don\'t want people suing them saying \"Hey! You stole my idea from my game! I made this fan game two years ago, way before you released your game!\". That\'s the same reason why companies say \"Don\'t send us game ideas.\".

If people are talented enough to make games, especially 3D ones, they shouldn\'t make fan games. They should do something from their imaginations and sell it.

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Nah, you\'re just jealous. Shame, really. :P

Chrono Trigger was originally not connected at all to Chrono Cross, until the PSX version came out. Then they added little scenes..like Lucca finding whats her face in the forest. That\'s what I was talking about, not Cross connected to Trigger.

Chrono Cross was connected to Chrono Trigger, yes, but you have to admit it wasn\'t by very much. They mentioned Lucca, they had the Masamune..there were just little things here and there. Well, and Glenn as well, but he wasn\'t the same. He was just there for name value. And oh, the incredibly silly \'ghost\' Crono and Marle who try to explain the entire game\'s plot and ending in a few paragraphs.

IF Toriyama let Square use his characters, the game would\'ve been different by far. But I\'m kinda glad he didn\'t. For one, the Xenogears people worked on it, and for two it was a rushed game. 2 CDs don\'t do it justice, it needed at least a third. Maybe it would\'ve redeemed itself in the end.

And yes..like Breakman said, people are really really greedy and annoying, and are known to sue companies if the company uses their idea. EVEN if they send their idea straight to the company! So companies don\'t accept fan ideas any longer, sadly.

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Nah, you\'re just jealous. Shame, really. :P


I\'m just not gonna touch that with a 10-foot pole.
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Chrono Trigger was originally not connected at all to Chrono Cross, until the PSX version came out. Then they added little scenes..like Lucca finding whats her face in the forest. That\'s what I was talking about, not Cross connected to Trigger.


Not to mention the Fall of Guardia. That\'s my biggest gripe with CC. Porre, tiny little Porre, whopped a world power.

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Chrono Cross was connected to Chrono Trigger, yes, but you have to admit it wasn\'t by very much. They mentioned Lucca, they had the Masamune..there were just little things here and there. Well, and Glenn as well, but he wasn\'t the same. He was just there for name value. And oh, the incredibly silly \'ghost\' Crono and Marle who try to explain the entire game\'s plot and ending in a few paragraphs.


No arguments there. Although I\'ll be gracious and say the plot was totally awesome...you knew there was more. Up until you beat FATE at any rate. Then it goes downhill. It becomes mediocre until the end of Terra Tower. Then it flatlines.

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IF Toriyama let Square use his characters, the game would\'ve been different by far. But I\'m kinda glad he didn\'t. For one, the Xenogears people worked on it, and for two it was a rushed game. 2 CDs don\'t do it justice, it needed at least a third. Maybe it would\'ve redeemed itself in the end.


Still, I liked some of the CC character designs. It was a nice change of pace. Toriyama pwns all though.


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And yes..like Breakman said, people are really really greedy and annoying, and are known to sue companies if the company uses their idea. EVEN if they send their idea straight to the company! So companies don\'t accept fan ideas any longer, sadly.


I\'m feeling too lazy to argue. In fact, I\'m so tired I don\'t know if I agree or disagree.

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Not to mention the Fall of Guardia. That\'s my biggest gripe with CC. Porre, tiny little Porre, whopped a world power.


Just proves that either the Xenogears storywriters had no idea what Porre was really like, or they had no other good ideas. :lol:

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No arguments there. Although I\'ll be gracious and say the plot was totally awesome...you knew there was more. Up until you beat FATE at any rate. Then it goes downhill. It becomes mediocre until the end of Terra Tower. Then it flatlines.


The only thing that kept me playing was the music and enemies. The whole FATE plot was kind of...farfetched at least. The Dragon Gods were pretty damn cool though. And it definitely flatlines with that godawful ending. :P

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Still, I liked some of the CC character designs. It was a nice change of pace. Toriyama pwns all though.


Nikki, Karsh, that pink dog, and Lynx were my favorites. But really, they didn\'t need 300 thousand characters to play as in that game. It made the characters lose alot of screentime (except for Serge of course), and we don\'t get to learn about their history much. It sucks.

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I\'m feeling too lazy to argue. In fact, I\'m so tired I don\'t know if I agree or disagree.


Well uh, it\'s factual, to a point. Break is right, companies refuse to accept ideas out of fear of getting sued. Hasbro recieves alot of ideas from children, about their toys..but they always send back form letters saying something along the lines of \"Sorry, we can\'t use your idea unless we hire you.\" They\'re KIDS and they still are scared of taking their ideas.

Well, I guess everyone\'s not Bill Gates. :lol:

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. There were about 40 some characters. That\'s about 30 more than I would give them for a MAX. 4 or 5 would\'ve been better.

BTW, the fact that you played as Lynx for most the game doesn\'t make me so happy either. Serge was my favorite character, so that just made me biased.

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