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[Edited on 21/3/05 by Indifferent Protester]
I have a question. I know I speak fluent English (I should think so, I have lived in Britain all my life, as have my parents), but by no means is my grammar perfect. There is one thing that I have no idea how to use. The semi-colon ( ; ). How do you use the semicolon ( ; )?
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I think mostly everyone on this board(exept for spammers, ect.)know their English.
Heh, mabey you should read the rule about double posting.
Well, I live in America, and I didn\'t know how the semi-colon was used!
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Semicolons are used when a writer commits a comma-splice error. This occurs when you write a sentence that contains a comma; when you look at the sentence on both sides of the comma, and notice that both sides can stand alone as sentences. You then change the comma into a semicolon.
The exception to this rule is when you use or, and or but after the comma.
[Edited on 22-3-2005 by Necro]
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Hmm. See, I don\'t know the official rules for using a semicolon. What I do know is how I often use it. For example, when I make a formal list using a colon, I often seperate the parts of the list with a semicolon. Here\'s an example.
This topic has several goals which it hopes to achieve: deleting excess spam; showing the proper way in which to use English grammar; finding answers to commonly asked questions;....
Then again, I\'m no English major myself. I merely have an inherent skill of being able to tell when something about a sentence is \"just not quite right.\"
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Forgive me for the irrelevant post, AirMan, but it seems to me having several of these language help topics is a tad redundant; they could have been combined altogether to form a general language help topic.
(Take note though, that I\'m not implying that it\'s spam.)
EDIT: Corrected a tiny spelling error that God pointed out. T\'is what happens when you type with excessive speed.
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[Edited on 3/26/2005 by Zaleon]
I suppose I could have, but they seemed different, to me.
Thanks for the discribtion, Necro.
Serpentarius, I believe that a comma (,) should be used for a list (This topic has several goals which it hopes to achieve: deleting excess spam, showing the proper way in which to use English grammar and finding answers to commonly asked questions.)
Also, I kinda hoped that this would be used to help people\'s posts become easier to read. Not for the SPAMmers who didn\'t want to learn, but active members who aren\'t good vit zee englisch, ja?
[Edited on 22/3/05 by Indifferent Protester]
[Edited on 22/3/05 by Indifferent Protester]
Personally, I use semicolons when I create lists where the various items already incluse commas. For example: when my posts, done on this board, reach a certain length; whenever I think I need them; on some rare occasions, like right now; etc.
[Edited on 23-3-2005 by Dr. Cossack]
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Yes, I always used them for that, too.
A \'full-stop\' is what the people outside of America call \'periods\'. I have no idea of how to use a semi-colon correctly so I can not help.
I'm older school than you are.
Actually, they both look weird which why it said it was probably not hyphented. Or you could just refer to it as what it is called so then nothing wouild look weird.... And referring to itself as \"it\" is not incorrect grammar, it is as a matter of fact the most correct grammar possible as only humans and people should be referred to with human pronouns and objects or things which are not worthy of existance should be referred to as \"it.\" Or maybe \"bitch\" or \"horrible\" or \"putrid,\" but those are not pronouns.
Just because you have seen puncuation used in a certian way does not mean it is correct. It has seen this sentence: \"You still can\'t double post even if a day has past.\" Does that mean it is correct? No, it did not think so. And you just mentioned yourself that you have seen this usage in Lord of the Rings. It does not know what version you were watching (technically should have been \"which\"), but in all versions it knows of Lord of the Rings was set in a medieval-esque time period which does not actually exist, not in present-day or in a time when they used modern English.
And it just wondered why puncuation is related to commonly-seen-as disgusting parts of the body; colons... periods... Who is going to invent the next puncuation mark called a \"feces?\"
[Edited on 3/29/2005 by God]
It has read Lord of The Rings; it IS in a different style then regular English, and just because it is in a book does not mean it is correct. You have no idea how many times it has noticed errors in the way bookes were written, and when it gets to be too bad, sometimes it will want to send a letter to the publisher (though it never does).
It does not matter what version you were reading, they should all be the same with the exception of possibly some passages removed, and introductions and forewords. Semi-colons are not supposed to be used to seperate lists, and, especially in older books (such as ones from 50 or 70 years ago), how many sentences are there that are half a page long? That is certianly not correct, or your techer would never \"discondone\" (It doesn\'t think that\'s a word....) you for \"run-on sentences,\" would she? As a matter of fact, most authors who write in the style of J.R.R. Tolkien, not the writing style, but the word and puncuation usuage style, which would be from a non-modern time period, do not use English and/or puncuation correctly. Then again, there are many authors who are recent who do not use things correctly, but those are simply errors or the \"stupidity\" (only in quotes because usually when people use that word they mean it as a bad thing) of the author, not a complete style which no longer exists.
BannedIt seems that someone has finally seemed to notice the utter failures in writing that everyone in this board inherently is. I myself misspell several words, and my grammar is somewhat shoddy. In any case, I always thought that the semi-colon was initially used to break down sentences, rather than use the words \'and\' and \'so\' and other words of redundancy. In any case, I\'m in English 3 Honors at my school, and grammar is an utmost necessity, (not spelled right I believe), but I\'ve always been able to work around the need to use a semi-colon.
Utlimately, Indifferent Protester, it isn\'t that the people here are bad at speaking English, or that they are horrible typists, it\'s really that most people when they type are in a terrible rush, and rarely do they take the time to accurately type something intelligible; really, it\'s that everyone here is very lazy.
[Edited on 30-3-2005 by Gabriel]
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For most people, that is true. But it is also that I cannot use grammar perfectly. I also saw many members that seemed to be trying to post well, but just can\'t speak that good English.
Neither is this thread to talk about it in it\'s entirity. Nor merely one aspect of grammar (the semi-colon, for instance).
Why are you people still discussing what the use of a semi-colon is? The answer I gave is correct, and if you don\'t believe me you should ask your English teachers. This isn\'t going to be much help with the English language if people keep debating what the rule is and isn\'t.
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I\'m so awesome, that I always type \"alot\" instead of \"a lot\", use apostrophes as makeshift quotes, make up words like \"snorgle\", \"sexuendo\", and \"luuko\"...frequently \"dot off\"....
And start my sentences wrongly! Ahahahaha wrongly.
But yeah, I don\'t think it matters as long as you type a coherent sentence. omg d00dz relly isn\'t a good way to type.
I think it\'s preposterous to go out of my way to \"type perfect English\" on a messageboard. I type how I talk. I happen to say \"ya\'ll\" and \"georgie schmorgie\". It gives me character. 
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