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1. Fellowship of the Rings and Two Towers were shoved down our throats.

I\'ve heard some students are even forced to read some novelization of the movie in their literature classes. Ridiculous. Does Hollywood run our classrooms now?

2. Greed.

Hollywood can\'t make a movie these days without crapping out a sequel the next year to squeeze more money out of the sheep. Guess what; there\'s ANOTHER LOTR movie coming this Christmas. Gee, I wonder what will bring Rocky out of retirement this time?

3. Quality Control at New Line.

Millions of copies of the LOTR DVDs have thick black bars at the bottom and top of the screen throughout the film. Didn\'t anyone catch this? You know what happens at the end, in the extreme foreground and extreme upper sky? Neither do I. Bush league, guys.

4. They switched Darrens on us!

Look closely in Fellowship and you\'ll notice the human member of their party is played by two different actors at different points of the movie (it takes a sharp eye to notice, but one of them has red hair, one black).

5. Quality Control at New Line, II.

In the massive Mt. Doom battle scene at the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring, a DVD pause reveals at least half a dozen of the 50,000 Orc Warrior extras are wearing modern tennis shoes.

6. Speaking of Orcs...

The Orcs were obviously stolen from PC game maker Blizzard and its Warcraft series. Too bad Blizzard is apparently too scared to sue New Line over it.

7. Racism.

Percentage of protagonists in Fellowship who are white: 100. Meanwhile the black antagonists and their black crow spies and their black glass seeing ball inhabit their black towers and perform black magic. Gosh, I wonder if there\'s some symbolism there?

8. Gold: The Stretchy Element.

The ring, which is seen to be at least two inches in diameter at the beginning to fit the polish sausage-sized finger of Sauron, suddenly fits Frodo\'s child-sized finger later. I guess this movie takes place in a world where rings magically change sizes on their own.

9. Violence.

Give me one reason that story couldn\'t have been told without all the fighting.

10. Horse sense.

Why didn\'t they take horses on their quest? Or even better, why didn\'t Gandalf\'s giant flying bird friend haul them into Mordor? Watch out, Frodo! All of your methods of transportation have been swallowed by the Dark Lord of the Plot Hole!

11. Retracted.*

See below.

12. Return of the Living Dead.

In FOTR, if you watch closely during the Inn scene, Frodo and his crew are shown getting stabbed by the Ring Wraiths. Then, five seconds later, they are fine again. Note to the director: try proofreading your movie before you release it to the public.

13. Did someone say plot hole?

Liv Tyler\'s character is seen easily defeating nine strong supernatural beings, even though she is clearly a woman.

14. The Battle Droid Syndrome.

The mutated muscular soldiers of Mordor turned out to be hilariously ineffective fighters, a dozen of them held off by a single dying human. Apparently they made the beasts by crossing Orcs, Goblins and the French.

15. Sloppy CGI.

Gandalf\'s smoke boat at Bilbo\'s party is pretty impressive, but smoke cannot be made to travel horizontally, thus revealing it to be nothing but a cheap special effect.

16. The Asbestos Wizard.

We all saw Gandalf fall into the molten core of Middle Earth after his battle with the firebeast thing in part 1. Well, I guess the Gandalf action figure must have sold well, because in the slap-together sequel Two Towers, Gandalf is back. Perhaps it was voodoo, a la the corpse in Weekend at Bernie\'s II (look closely and you\'ll notice LOTR steals several elements from the WAB films).

17. Invisible Implausibility.

Every time Frodo or Bilbo went invisible with the ring they should have also gone BLIND. Your eyes cannot function unless light is reflected off the cornea. If light passes through it (as must be the case with invisibility) sight is no longer possible. Also, rings do not turn you invisible.

18. The Asbestos Wizard, II.

The giant fire beast thing at the end of part 1 was breathing a firey breath hot enough to send heat-distortion waves through the air. The sheer temperature of the air should have burned off Gandalf\'s beard and eyebrows. None of my reading on evolutionary biology reveals a single reason why a particular race of humans would develop unflammable facial hair as this would provide practically no advantage in either survival or mating.

19. I\'ll have to rent that one.

The rushed-through story the screenwriter threw in as the first ten minutes of Fellowship of the Ring looked a lot more interesting than the movie we were forced to watch. Why didn\'t somebody make a movie off that instead?

20. Magic Mechanics.

Experts on the occult say in order for a wizard to floorspin a fully-grown man like Gandalf, he\'d need three magical staffs, not two.

21. Finders, keepers.

So Bilbo, who we are supposed to identify with as a protagonist, finds a piece of someone else\'s jewelry and just keeps it for himself? That\'s funny, because I would expect a good man to submit it to the local Lost and Found so it could be claimed by its owner. It makes me wonder if he bought that hillside house or if he was just squatting.

22. Go-Go Gadget Arrow Sprouter.

Legolas shoots arrow after arrow at his enemies, and yet the number of arrows in his quiver never decreases. I guess elves have glands on their back that secrete arrows.

23. Watch out! He\'s going to explode!

The heroes are shown eating again and again, and yet no one ever goes to the bathroom throughout their entire quest.

24. Meesa gonna make theesa movie suckah!

The character of Gollum in The Two Towers was entirely computer animated (a cheap effort to cash in on Jar Jar Binks Mania) but was just a dim shadow of George Lucas\' effort. Thank you, Peter Jackson. Thank you right to Hell.

25. Propaganda.

The Elves, clearly the most advanced and wise species, are also clearly gay.

26. Speaking of Elves...

Elves are beautiful and wise and tall? Great warriors? Makers of fine lightweight weapons? Our modern knowledge of elves has observed only an ability to make cookies and toys. All the elves in the film are portrayed as living in a warm paradise (Rivendell) but our own information tells us the aforementioned group of toymaking elves work and thrive in the arctic. Hey, Mr. Jackson: Research is half of writing.

27. Homage or theft?

The \"happy village of little people\" idea was stolen from Willow.

28. Homage or theft II?

The wise old wizard character was stolen from Harry Potter.

29. Homage or theft III?

The \"travelling on our quest through a corn field\" scene was stolen from Shrek.

30. Homage or theft IV?

The character of the rebellious-but-helpful Ranger was stolen from Val Kilmer in Willow.

31. Homage or theft V?

The concept of the violent dwarf was based on Al Pacino.

32. Homage or theft VI?

The \"old man looking through the door hatch at the approaching little people\" scene was stolen from A Clockwork Orange.

33. Homage or theft VII?

The cantina scene with a noisy bar filled with a mix of otherworldly species was stolen from Cecile B. DeMille\'s One Night in an Alien Bar.

34. Homage or theft VIII?

The incident with the flock of evil magical spying crows serving the All-Seeing Eye was based on an actual incident.

35. Homage or theft IX?

The character of the Giant Evil Flaming All-Seeing Eye was based on former President Jimmy Carter.

36. Homage or theft X?

The character of Elrond was based on Agent Smith from The Matrix.

37. Weighty issues.

AKA \"Plot Hole No. 273.\" Even with all that walking and light eating, the character of Sam only got fatter.

38. Realism, schmealism.

Liv Tyler\'s immortal elf volunteers to give up her eternal life for a single romance with a human man. Could any man really be that well endowed? I find it unlikely.

39. Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow.

The most advanced civilization is that of the elves, which are long-haired, new-age types? Sorry, Mr. Jackson, but modern science has proven that in any modern civilization, hippies would be extinct.

40. Too many notes.

No movie should be over two hours long. Did we need that whole thing in the mine in part 1? What about that almost-infinite battle scene in part 2? Didn\'t it seem like they were just adding pointless scenes in the middle to pad it? It\'s like they decided beforehand they wanted three hours for each film and used filler to flesh them out.

41. Too many notes, II.

I just want to re-emphasize the above point. There is no reason entertainment can\'t be concise.

42. Too many notes, III.

Too many characters to keep track of. The dwarf was clearly only there as a token dwarf character to sell tickets to lucrative movie-going dwarf demographic. Lose him.

43. Rationalization for violence.

Why, in part 1, is the black octopus creature painted as the bad guy when it attacks, when one of the fellowship had clearly been throwing rocks at it?

44. The Shoeless Land.

The Hobbits both 1) refuse to wear shoes and 2) run a livestock-based farming economy. Wouldn\'t they constantly be stepping in crap? Why doesn\'t the movie address this issue?

45. Casting.

Why couldn\'t Frodo have been played by Christopher Walken?

46. Casting, II.

Why couldn\'t Gandalf have been played by Bruce Campbell?

47. Casting, III.

Why couldn\'t Bilbo have been played by Vin Diesel?

48. Casting, IV.

Why couldn\'t Strider have been played by a monkey?

49. The Score.

The background music wasn\'t nearly funky enough for me.

50. What\'s that smell?

As bad as the Lucasfilm leaks were with his last film, the filmmakers of Return of the King already have the novelization out in paperback. I\'ve seen it at Barnes & Noble already. As if we needed any less of a reason to go see it.


-Dr. Albert Oxford, PhD
London Film Institute

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13. Did someone say plot hole?
14. The Battle Droid Syndrome.
17. Invisible Implausibility.
18. The Asbestos Wizard, II.
20. Magic Mechanics.
21. Finders, keepers.
22. Go-Go Gadget Arrow Sprouter.
23. Watch out! He\'s going to explode!
24. Meesa gonna make theesa movie suckah!
25. Propaganda.
26. Speaking of Elves...
39. Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow.
40. Too many notes.
41. Too many notes, II.
42. Too many notes, III.
43. Rationalization for violence.
44. The Shoeless Land.


I only quoted the numbers and titles for quote space purposes.

On now on the subject...

Who in the heck is this guy? Those that are quoted are flippin\' hilarious! XD!


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Originally posted by Mega X.exe
1. Fellowship of the Rings and Two Towers were shoved down our throats.

I\'ve heard some students are even forced to read some novelization of the movie in their literature classes. Ridiculous. Does Hollywood run our classrooms now?

2. Greed.

Hollywood can\'t make a movie these days without crapping out a sequel the next year to squeeze more money out of the sheep. Guess what; there\'s ANOTHER LOTR movie coming this Christmas. Gee, I wonder what will bring Rocky out of retirement this time?

3. Quality Control at New Line.

Millions of copies of the LOTR DVDs have thick black bars at the bottom and top of the screen throughout the film. Didn\'t anyone catch this? You know what happens at the end, in the extreme foreground and extreme upper sky? Neither do I. Bush league, guys.

4. They switched Darrens on us!

Look closely in Fellowship and you\'ll notice the human member of their party is played by two different actors at different points of the movie (it takes a sharp eye to notice, but one of them has red hair, one black).

5. Quality Control at New Line, II.

In the massive Mt. Doom battle scene at the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring, a DVD pause reveals at least half a dozen of the 50,000 Orc Warrior extras are wearing modern tennis shoes.

6. Speaking of Orcs...

The Orcs were obviously stolen from PC game maker Blizzard and its Warcraft series. Too bad Blizzard is apparently too scared to sue New Line over it.

7. Racism.

Percentage of protagonists in Fellowship who are white: 100. Meanwhile the black antagonists and their black crow spies and their black glass seeing ball inhabit their black towers and perform black magic. Gosh, I wonder if there\'s some symbolism there?

8. Gold: The Stretchy Element.

The ring, which is seen to be at least two inches in diameter at the beginning to fit the polish sausage-sized finger of Sauron, suddenly fits Frodo\'s child-sized finger later. I guess this movie takes place in a world where rings magically change sizes on their own.

9. Violence.

Give me one reason that story couldn\'t have been told without all the fighting.

10. Horse sense.

Why didn\'t they take horses on their quest? Or even better, why didn\'t Gandalf\'s giant flying bird friend haul them into Mordor? Watch out, Frodo! All of your methods of transportation have been swallowed by the Dark Lord of the Plot Hole!

11. Retracted.*

See below.

12. Return of the Living Dead.

In FOTR, if you watch closely during the Inn scene, Frodo and his crew are shown getting stabbed by the Ring Wraiths. Then, five seconds later, they are fine again. Note to the director: try proofreading your movie before you release it to the public.

13. Did someone say plot hole?

Liv Tyler\'s character is seen easily defeating nine strong supernatural beings, even though she is clearly a woman.

14. The Battle Droid Syndrome.

The mutated muscular soldiers of Mordor turned out to be hilariously ineffective fighters, a dozen of them held off by a single dying human. Apparently they made the beasts by crossing Orcs, Goblins and the French.

15. Sloppy CGI.

Gandalf\'s smoke boat at Bilbo\'s party is pretty impressive, but smoke cannot be made to travel horizontally, thus revealing it to be nothing but a cheap special effect.

16. The Asbestos Wizard.

We all saw Gandalf fall into the molten core of Middle Earth after his battle with the firebeast thing in part 1. Well, I guess the Gandalf action figure must have sold well, because in the slap-together sequel Two Towers, Gandalf is back. Perhaps it was voodoo, a la the corpse in Weekend at Bernie\'s II (look closely and you\'ll notice LOTR steals several elements from the WAB films).

17. Invisible Implausibility.

Every time Frodo or Bilbo went invisible with the ring they should have also gone BLIND. Your eyes cannot function unless light is reflected off the cornea. If light passes through it (as must be the case with invisibility) sight is no longer possible. Also, rings do not turn you invisible.

18. The Asbestos Wizard, II.

The giant fire beast thing at the end of part 1 was breathing a firey breath hot enough to send heat-distortion waves through the air. The sheer temperature of the air should have burned off Gandalf\'s beard and eyebrows. None of my reading on evolutionary biology reveals a single reason why a particular race of humans would develop unflammable facial hair as this would provide practically no advantage in either survival or mating.

19. I\'ll have to rent that one.

The rushed-through story the screenwriter threw in as the first ten minutes of Fellowship of the Ring looked a lot more interesting than the movie we were forced to watch. Why didn\'t somebody make a movie off that instead?

20. Magic Mechanics.

Experts on the occult say in order for a wizard to floorspin a fully-grown man like Gandalf, he\'d need three magical staffs, not two.

21. Finders, keepers.

So Bilbo, who we are supposed to identify with as a protagonist, finds a piece of someone else\'s jewelry and just keeps it for himself? That\'s funny, because I would expect a good man to submit it to the local Lost and Found so it could be claimed by its owner. It makes me wonder if he bought that hillside house or if he was just squatting.

22. Go-Go Gadget Arrow Sprouter.

Legolas shoots arrow after arrow at his enemies, and yet the number of arrows in his quiver never decreases. I guess elves have glands on their back that secrete arrows.

23. Watch out! He\'s going to explode!

The heroes are shown eating again and again, and yet no one ever goes to the bathroom throughout their entire quest.

24. Meesa gonna make theesa movie suckah!

The character of Gollum in The Two Towers was entirely computer animated (a cheap effort to cash in on Jar Jar Binks Mania) but was just a dim shadow of George Lucas\' effort. Thank you, Peter Jackson. Thank you right to Hell.

25. Propaganda.

The Elves, clearly the most advanced and wise species, are also clearly gay.

26. Speaking of Elves...

Elves are beautiful and wise and tall? Great warriors? Makers of fine lightweight weapons? Our modern knowledge of elves has observed only an ability to make cookies and toys. All the elves in the film are portrayed as living in a warm paradise (Rivendell) but our own information tells us the aforementioned group of toymaking elves work and thrive in the arctic. Hey, Mr. Jackson: Research is half of writing.

27. Homage or theft?

The \"happy village of little people\" idea was stolen from Willow.

28. Homage or theft II?

The wise old wizard character was stolen from Harry Potter.

29. Homage or theft III?

The \"travelling on our quest through a corn field\" scene was stolen from Shrek.

30. Homage or theft IV?

The character of the rebellious-but-helpful Ranger was stolen from Val Kilmer in Willow.

31. Homage or theft V?

The concept of the violent dwarf was based on Al Pacino.

32. Homage or theft VI?

The \"old man looking through the door hatch at the approaching little people\" scene was stolen from A Clockwork Orange.

33. Homage or theft VII?

The cantina scene with a noisy bar filled with a mix of otherworldly species was stolen from Cecile B. DeMille\'s One Night in an Alien Bar.

34. Homage or theft VIII?

The incident with the flock of evil magical spying crows serving the All-Seeing Eye was based on an actual incident.

35. Homage or theft IX?

The character of the Giant Evil Flaming All-Seeing Eye was based on former President Jimmy Carter.

36. Homage or theft X?

The character of Elrond was based on Agent Smith from The Matrix.

37. Weighty issues.

AKA \"Plot Hole No. 273.\" Even with all that walking and light eating, the character of Sam only got fatter.

38. Realism, schmealism.

Liv Tyler\'s immortal elf volunteers to give up her eternal life for a single romance with a human man. Could any man really be that well endowed? I find it unlikely.

39. Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow.

The most advanced civilization is that of the elves, which are long-haired, new-age types? Sorry, Mr. Jackson, but modern science has proven that in any modern civilization, hippies would be extinct.

40. Too many notes.

No movie should be over two hours long. Did we need that whole thing in the mine in part 1? What about that almost-infinite battle scene in part 2? Didn\'t it seem like they were just adding pointless scenes in the middle to pad it? It\'s like they decided beforehand they wanted three hours for each film and used filler to flesh them out.

41. Too many notes, II.

I just want to re-emphasize the above point. There is no reason entertainment can\'t be concise.

42. Too many notes, III.

Too many characters to keep track of. The dwarf was clearly only there as a token dwarf character to sell tickets to lucrative movie-going dwarf demographic. Lose him.

43. Rationalization for violence.

Why, in part 1, is the black octopus creature painted as the bad guy when it attacks, when one of the fellowship had clearly been throwing rocks at it?

44. The Shoeless Land.

The Hobbits both 1) refuse to wear shoes and 2) run a livestock-based farming economy. Wouldn\'t they constantly be stepping in crap? Why doesn\'t the movie address this issue?

45. Casting.

Why couldn\'t Frodo have been played by Christopher Walken?

46. Casting, II.

Why couldn\'t Gandalf have been played by Bruce Campbell?

47. Casting, III.

Why couldn\'t Bilbo have been played by Vin Diesel?

48. Casting, IV.

Why couldn\'t Strider have been played by a monkey?

49. The Score.

The background music wasn\'t nearly funky enough for me.

50. What\'s that smell?

As bad as the Lucasfilm leaks were with his last film, the filmmakers of Return of the King already have the novelization out in paperback. I\'ve seen it at Barnes & Noble already. As if we needed any less of a reason to go see it.


-Dr. Albert Oxford, PhD
London Film Institute

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Ugh.....read. the. friggin. RULES.

On topic, I really laughed at reason 23.
And your recasts were good for a chuckle. I\'d pay to see that.

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I know this is a joke topic, but I\'ll comment on it anyway. I also realise that you didn\'t write it, but I\'ll write it in second person, anyway.

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1. Fellowship of the Rings and Two Towers were shoved down our throats.
I\'ve heard some students are even forced to read some novelization of the movie in their literature classes. Ridiculous. Does Hollywood run our classrooms now?


That\'s bad. They do that with Shakespeare. we\'ve just had a big national exam on MacBeth!

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2. Greed.

Hollywood can\'t make a movie these days without crapping out a sequel the next year to squeeze more money out of the sheep. Guess what; there\'s ANOTHER LOTR movie coming this Christmas. Gee, I wonder what will bring Rocky out of retirement this time?


1. LoTR ISN\'T HOLLYWOOD! It wa written in Oxford (in England, if you didn\'t know) and made across New Zealand.

2. There was only goind to ever be one Lord of the Rings book which was 1008 pages long. However, just after WWII, there was a paper shortage. They could have made it, but it would have been very expensive to buy, so no one would buy it. This is why they took this 1008 page long book and devide into three, so you have three books, The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and the Return of the King. Now the paper shortage is over, you can buy the single volume edition which is usually 1008 pages long.

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3. Quality Control at New Line.

Millions of copies of the LOTR DVDs have thick black bars at the bottom and top of the screen throughout the film. Didn\'t anyone catch this? You know what happens at the end, in the extreme foreground and extreme upper sky? Neither do I. Bush league, guys.


That\'s what you call \"Wide screen\". Most DVDs are like that.

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4. They switched Darrens on us!

Look closely in Fellowship and you\'ll notice the human member of their party is played by two different actors at different points of the movie (it takes a sharp eye to notice, but one of them has red hair, one black).


Yes, and if you look the shot of the hobbits going onto the ship at the end of Return of the King, you\'ll see that their har is different. It\'s called a \"Scale Double\".


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8. Gold: The Stretchy Element.

The ring, which is seen to be at least two inches in diameter at the beginning to fit the polish sausage-sized finger of Sauron, suddenly fits Frodo\'s child-sized finger later. I guess this movie takes place in a world where rings magically change sizes on their own.


If you read the book you notice it clearly states more than once that it magically changes diameter, so they\'re excused there.

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9. Violence.

Give me one reason that story couldn\'t have been told without all the fighting.


Yes, we all want it done like Pearl Harbor, don\'t we! Take out the entire War of the Ring scene along with the rest of the fighting (over half of the film) and turn it into a porn movie about Aragorn and Arwen! Who what\'s that? Goor idea :rolleyes:

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10. Horse sense.

Why didn\'t they take horses on their quest? Or even better, why didn\'t Gandalf\'s giant flying bird friend haul them into Mordor? Watch out, Frodo! All of your methods of transportation have been swallowed by the Dark Lord of the Plot Hole!


1. They did, they took Bill the pony.

2. If they did that, they would have got slaughtered by the Nazgūl. Clever! That\'s why they wanted to sneak in. Besides, how long would the book have been if that happened, and how many people would want to read it?

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12. Return of the Living Dead.

In FOTR, if you watch closely during the Inn scene, Frodo and his crew are shown getting stabbed by the Ring Wraiths. Then, five seconds later, they are fine again. Note to the director: try proofreading your movie before you release it to the public.


That\'s a trick to the Nazgūl. They have the beds and put loads of pillows in them to look like the hobbits. The hobbits are perfectly safe in the room next door. It\'s done like that so you see it how the Nazgūl see it.

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13. Did someone say plot hole?

Liv Tyler\'s character is seen easily defeating nine strong supernatural beings, even though she is clearly a woman.


Did someone say sexism? If you notice, the same thing happend in the Two Towers when Éowen defeats the Witchking of Angmar.

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15. Sloppy CGI.

Gandalf\'s smoke boat at Bilbo\'s party is pretty impressive, but smoke cannot be made to travel horizontally, thus revealing it to be nothing but a cheap special effect.


Lemme guess. You actuially believed the smoke rings and the boat to be real, before you worked this out.:rolleyes:

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16. The Asbestos Wizard.

We all saw Gandalf fall into the molten core of Middle Earth after his battle with the firebeast thing in part 1. Well, I guess the Gandalf action figure must have sold well, because in the slap-together sequel Two Towers, Gandalf is back. Perhaps it was voodoo, a la the corpse in Weekend at Bernie\'s II (look closely and you\'ll notice LOTR steals several elements from the WAB films).


1. Stop talking about the Two Towers as if it were just another jump-on-the-bandwagon sequal. it wasn\'t. This is one of the few films where all three of them were written as one.

2. We never actually saw him die. Nor did we seem him \"fall into moltern lava\". Read the book and you\'ll understand.

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17. Invisible Implausibility.

Every time Frodo or Bilbo went invisible with the ring they should have also gone BLIND. Your eyes cannot function unless light is reflected off the cornea. If light passes through it (as must be the case with invisibility) sight is no longer possible. Also, rings do not turn you invisible.
It\'s called a \"fantacy epic novel\" not \"true scientific wonders which happended the other day\".

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18. The Asbestos Wizard, II.

The giant fire beast thing at the end of part 1 was breathing a firey breath hot enough to send heat-distortion waves through the air. The sheer temperature of the air should have burned off Gandalf\'s beard and eyebrows. None of my reading on evolutionary biology reveals a single reason why a particular race of humans would develop unflammable facial hair as this would provide practically no advantage in either survival or mating.


My radiator sends heat ripples through the air, but that doesn\'t mean that when I put my face near it, I get singed.


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19. I\'ll have to rent that one.

The rushed-through story the screenwriter threw in as the first ten minutes of Fellowship of the Ring looked a lot more interesting than the movie we were forced to watch. Why didn\'t somebody make a movie off that instead?
Because that\'s the prelude. It sets the scene.

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20. Magic Mechanics.

Experts on the occult say in order for a wizard to floorspin a fully-grown man like Gandalf, he\'d need three magical staffs, not two.


Eplain how they would know. How many wizards have they tried it on, and how many hands do they expect Saruman to have?

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21. Finders, keepers.

So Bilbo, who we are supposed to identify with as a protagonist, finds a piece of someone else\'s jewelry and just keeps it for himself? That\'s funny, because I would expect a good man to submit it to the local Lost and Found so it could be claimed by its owner. It makes me wonder if he bought that hillside house or if he was just squatting.


Ah! That\'s the idea. It\'s supposed to show what an influence the ring has on even the best of people.

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22. Go-Go Gadget Arrow Sprouter.

Legolas shoots arrow after arrow at his enemies, and yet the number of arrows in his quiver never decreases. I guess elves have glands on their back that secrete arrows.
Yes they do. In the End of the Fellowship, after the battle of Amon Hen, he goes around trying to pick up any arrows that are still usable because his quiver was spent. (Going from the book)

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23. Watch out! He\'s going to explode!

The heroes are shown eating again and again, and yet no one ever goes to the bathroom throughout their entire quest.
That\'s because that would raise the certificate to 15 at lease due to nudity.

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24. Meesa gonna make theesa movie suckah!

The character of Gollum in The Two Towers was entirely computer animated (a cheap effort to cash in on Jar Jar Binks Mania) but was just a dim shadow of George Lucas\' effort. Thank you, Peter Jackson. Thank you right to Hell.


Not true. Andy Serkis completely acted all of it, and they just went over the top of him. Besides, LoTR and Star Wars aren\'t the only two series with animated characters in. Besides, there are lots of things in Star Wars that were copying LoTR.

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25. Propaganda.

The Elves, clearly the most advanced and wise species, are also clearly gay.


Right, that\'s why Elrond had a wife and Arwen has a husband. Nice observation.

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26. Speaking of Elves...

Elves are beautiful and wise and tall? Great warriors? Makers of fine lightweight weapons? Our modern knowledge of elves has observed only an ability to make cookies and toys. All the elves in the film are portrayed as living in a warm paradise (Rivendell) but our own information tells us the aforementioned group of toymaking elves work and thrive in the arctic. Hey, Mr. Jackson: Research is half of writing.
Mr. Jackson didn\'t write LoTR, J.R.R Tolkien did. Peter Jackson was just a fan of the book. Besides, how is Santa anything to go on?

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27. Homage or theft?

The \"happy village of little people\" idea was stolen from Willow.


Willow? What\'s that? When was it written? If it was written after 1940, which is about when Tolkien started LoTR, the it\'s the other way around.

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28. Homage or theft II?

The wise old wizard character was stolen from Harry Potter.
WTF? Something written in 1940 was stolen from something written in 1998? What kind of logic is that? Besides, they both stole them from Merlin :P

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29. Homage or theft III?

The \"travelling on our quest through a corn field\" scene was stolen from Shrek.
See above.

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30. Homage or theft IV?

The character of the rebellious-but-helpful Ranger was stolen from Val Kilmer in Willow.
Willow? I assume that was written after the fourties, so see above.

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37. Weighty issues.

AKA \"Plot Hole No. 273.\" Even with all that walking and light eating, the character of Sam only got fatter.
No, he stayed the same.

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38. Realism, schmealism.

Liv Tyler\'s immortal elf volunteers to give up her eternal life for a single romance with a human man. Could any man really be that well endowed? I find it unlikely.
If he was the future incredibly rich King of Gondor, I think she had good reason. Besides, she stays immortal even after then. It\'s somewhere in Appendix A.

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39. Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow.

The most advanced civilization is that of the elves, which are long-haired, new-age types? Sorry, Mr. Jackson, but modern science has proven that in any modern civilization, hippies would be extinct.
It was in Tolkien\'s book, so Peter Jackson had to put it in.

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40. Too many notes.

No movie should be over two hours long. Did we need that whole thing in the mine in part 1? What about that almost-infinite battle scene in part 2? Didn\'t it seem like they were just adding pointless scenes in the middle to pad it? It\'s like they decided beforehand they wanted three hours for each film and used filler to flesh them out.
Tell you what, I would like to see you make a film like that, keep it short and still keep the die-hard fans happy.

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42. Too many notes, III.

Too many characters to keep track of. The dwarf was clearly only there as a token dwarf character to sell tickets to lucrative movie-going dwarf demographic. Lose him.
What are you talking about movies fore here? Gimli has been there for fifety years (1956, I think), so I doubt Pete Jackson would be stupid enough to take him out.

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43. Rationalization for violence.

Why, in part 1, is the black octopus creature painted as the bad guy when it attacks, when one of the fellowship had clearly been throwing rocks at it?
Because he went for Frodo first. It wanted the ring.

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44. The Shoeless Land.

The Hobbits both 1) refuse to wear shoes and 2) run a livestock-based farming economy. Wouldn\'t they constantly be stepping in crap? Why doesn\'t the movie address this issue?
The world is on the edge of being destroyed. I think that stepping in shit is the least of their worries.

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45. Casting.

Why couldn\'t Frodo have been played by Christopher Walken?
I don\'t know who Christopher Walken is, but I agree that Elijah Wood was not the best person to choose for Frodo.

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46. Casting, II.

Why couldn\'t Gandalf have been played by Bruce Campbell?
Because Ian McKellen is a great Shakespearean acter and is the perfect person for the part.

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50. What\'s that smell?

As bad as the Lucasfilm leaks were with his last film, the filmmakers of Return of the King already have the novelization out in paperback. I\'ve seen it at Barnes & Noble already. As if we needed any less of a reason to go see it.
What?


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Is a bit of a twat, in my oppinion. How can anyone with a PhD in ANYthing be so thick!?

Whoa! Long post!

[Edited on 14/5/05 by Samsara]


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Dear God, Samsara. The guy who posted it originally even said that he was kidding! Can you take a joke at all without ruining it?

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Yes, I can, but I chose not to :P


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That\'s pretty funny. I\'ve never read a more brainless list of reasons for something in my life! Number 43 caught my attention as being the funniest; yes, the poor beast is really misunderstood! Let us give it a self-help class, and all will be made well!!!

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Thanks, Airman, for making the joke unfunny.

Statement #43, I always wondered about that. What do you expect a monster is going to do? Take the hits? Hea.

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Thanks, Airman, for making the joke unfunny.
*I* made it unfunny? Moi? Actually, I never found it funny in the first place, but there you go!


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Oh, come on, guys, it\'s nothing to squabble about. If anything, a dumb list like the only proved that the books and movied DON\'T suck... not that there was any question.

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I never got into LOTR, too nerdy to me...

(Shut up I KNOW I\'m on a megaman board)

Some of those were pretty funny.

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Lmao, Alot of these reasons were funny, The tennis shoes wearing orcs one was really weird.

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Actually, while some parts of that were funny, this guy reminds me too much of a proffessional comedian to be that great. .17: \"Rings do not turn you invisible.\" That hardly seemed clever at all. And .25... I hate it when people characterize elves and such that way. :madgo:

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Sexist though it was, the one about Liv Tyler\'s characters was hilarious.

Another one of my favorites was the one about Sam getting fatter. :lol:

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Yeah, I really liked the Liv Tyler one too.

And bah, the elves aren\'t gay, Frodo is. Keep up with the times man!

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I agree with Airman. I didn\'t find it funny. If the guy was trying to be, he failed. If not, I want to beat him with a shovle for being an idioth.


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An idioth? An idioth with a PHD that is. The guy may be smart but he\'s not the best comedian. Still, some are funny.

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While we\'re on the topic of LOTR jokes, have you read The Very Secret Diaries? Hilarious. :lol: They actually got me to laugh out loud, for once!


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I wouldn\'t get any of those because I know nothing about the Lord of the Rings because I never seen the movie or read the books(there are books right?)

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Dear God, Samsara. The guy who posted it originally even said that he was kidding! Can you take a joke at all without ruining it?


He even did that on April fools.;D



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Heh... didn\'t really find that funny.

However, the secret diaries are much funnier. :D


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Yeah, the diaries are pretty funny. I haven\'t read them all yet, though.


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Yeah, Kagome, the books have been around since the fourties or fifties! :P

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While we\'re on the topic of LOTR jokes, have you read The Very Secret Diaries? Hilarious. :lol: They actually got me to laugh out loud, for once!


Some of those are quite funny.

Besides, I\'m proud that I don\'t laugh histerically at just anything!


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I didn\'t like it much myself. The wise old wizard wasn\'t taken from Harry Potter! Unless I am mistaken, FOTR was put out earlier than Harry Potter. And if it wasn\'t, wizards have always been wise and old!

Some were valid, granted, but most of them were a little lame methinks. The real problem with the FOTR movie was that not nearly so much action actually took place in the book. It was moreso a LOT of walking. The slow pace was why I couldn\'t finish the first. I\'d instead recommend \"The Dark Is Rising\" or \"The Wizard of Earthsea.\"


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