Hi!

Now, first of ll, some of you may find this topic inslting. For that, I apologise, but I have soe queeries on Americans in general. If you are American, please tell me your view on the issues raised in this post.

Now I\'ve got tha out of the way, on with the post.

First thing, why is it that with an american film/music video etc, it can have as much killing (shooting, stabbing etc.) as it can fit, but absolutely NO drag whatsoever (men dressing as women). Remember the video of \"I want to break free\" by \"Queen\"?

Another thing, adults don\'t worry about letting their kids take guns to school, but they should worry about letting them watch Harry Potter? It\'s only magic and before you even bother to try and trouble me with all that \"It\'s satanic and therefore against my religion\" bullshit, just tell me where exactly it says that they all worship Bielzibub? Magic isn\'t nesessarily evil.

America has been going down the $hiter since the 80s, Violence in movies, games, magazines, tv etc and Porn in Tv, the internet, and movies. Being an american myself, I gotta say weve lost the important values.

Should we WANT men dressing as women? Little kids like playing games with violence (and also seem to respect it, sad truth) but I can\'t recall any of my friends ever wanting to be the opposite gender... if we get kids into that somehow, we\'ll have two problems on our hands. Violence is just the more natural by standards, I guess. I mean, kids get the natural urge to attack out of anger, but not to dress up as a member of the opposite gender to be cool, so that just kinda seem \"off\" to Americans.
Is it normal where you come from?


Er... at least in MY community, that problem ended a long time ago. But really, quite a few religions state all magic as evil. Meh... I don\'t know about defending this, since I\'m not against certain \"magic\" talk... but you can\'t deny the ideas floating around about alchemy, changing the way things naturally work. (The elements, bringing junk back to life, etc.). I guess that\'s where it came from. People (yes, probably some of the Americans you mention) are simply trying to protect their childeren from looking to something for comfort or a sense of power that is just hollow blasphemy.
But those parents taking kids\' cards and ripping them up or bashing them for playing with Yu-Gi-Oh cards... yeah, that\'s taking it too far.

America\'s in a decline of values, perhaps, but remember that we\'re not all \"general\" Americans.

I\'m not saying it\'s normal, and if they feel it as an erge, then I would be worried. What I\'m saying is that it was a little fun and humour. It was a humourous video. You have to watch it to understand. The point is that it was a joke. I mean Freddie Mercury has a mustauche, for crying out loud! LOL

Hmmm.... Well, I\'ve never seen the video... and I don\'t know who Freddie Mercury is...
So I can\'t argue with that.

Don\'t know Freddie Mercury!? You haven\'t lived.

I don\'t know who Freddie Mercury is either.

Anyways, I\'ve been saying America is on a downward spiral for years. We\'re losing morals faster than Kiryu lost his respect (sorry, couldn\'t think of a better analogy). I mean, seriously, everything is all violence and immoral behavior. It\'s really getting on my nerves. I\'ve even seen it firsthand. What happened was this guy brought an anime to an Anime Club meeting at my school (won\'t say which, it\'s too wrong) and there was blatant nudity (needless to say, the guy got kicked out of the club). When asked about it, the guy apparently said he forgot. How do you forget about something like that?! That\'s scarred me for life, for crying out loud!

It\'s on a downwards spiral because people are complaining about morals.

It\'s changing. It\'s not dying or anything. We\'re just becoming more acceptable. For god\'s sake, stop whining about morals. ;_;

...I think I just stumbled onto Irony. Airman, yes, America has been screwed up... but for entirely different reasons! *stumbles out*

Hmm... I\'ll throw my two cents in here, too.

I, as an American, think that the rest of the world holds a sort of prim and proper shine. Whether it be Britain, France, Spain, or most any other European country, they all hold a sort of dignity and status. America was founded sort of as an \"Anti-Europe\", in that the peoples who originated from there and came here did so because they lost their support and became disgraced or shunned. Mostly, this is religious junk that forced people over here as a new home. Also, other nations came to explore this vast new world (seemingly) without bounds or end.

Now, years later, we still have our exploration and religious beliefs. However, we have no outlet for the additional urge to fight against what we percieve is wrong, no place to explore or conquer. So, we will find things that we believe are wrong (such as magic and other moral problems like cloning, science in general) and we find things to explore (sexuality, lifestyles, etc.). Unfortunately, these two groups are beginning to overlap, the explorative side of some clashing with the religious side of others in those same key areas. All the while, we forget the things we have conquered or made clean, leaving them behind until they are touched once more by a feud. So, as our morals slowly sink and are then proverbially \"jerked up by the collar\" by religion and exploration, we lose even more of the civilization and status that we had before coming to this land.

In short, we have overdeveloped our instincts, and underdeveloped our ability to compromise on their resulting fights. A simply complex net of decline and rise, ups and downs, goods and evils. Or, if you want the short version of it...

We won\'t shut up and compromise!

That\'s my window on the world, anyways. Hope that at least poked the topic, if not touched on it...

It\'s on a downward spiral because many parents are idiots who don\'t know how to set limits for their kids. The kids buy the stuff, or make their parents buy them for them. Since the stuff sells, they keep making it. I think it\'s perfectly OK to play violent games, so long as they aren\'t played solely for the sake of violence.. and it\'s nice to make sure that your kid isn\'t going to go shoot up a school because he played that game.. if you have doubts.. DON\'T BUY THE DAMN THING! Set limits, have rules. That\'s the problem. Our parents\' generation doesn\'t want to be like THEIR parents.. who were typically very strict.. so.. now.. the parents aren\'t strict at all... However, I find the fact that you stereotype an entire nation by the follies of a few individuals to be rather foolish.

Well, there doesnt have to be limits to games and violenece to ALL kids, only to the ones that are hyper and show behavior that shows that they loooove to kill. As for america, its going down down down to the deep abyiss, Soon a Psychotic dictator will rise and america will shatter

I would just say you,but then that wouldnt be true.I\'d have to say both

It\'s quite obvious you sir, have never seen Rocky Horror Picture Show.


Anyway, reading the topic\'s name I was already ready to type out, \"Heh. I agree with you 100%.\" But this is kinda not really what I expected...

My thought on America: Everybody is uptight. My life in a sentance right there. People care too much what others think, Europe and other contries for example--At least in my opinion, seem to care just not as much. All at the same time when Americans are all into unity and patriotism. Other contries, yes indeed they do have that, just I don\'t think it\'s near as strong. A lot of them don\'t even have a pledge of allegence they cram down my throat at my school. Some my think that\'s a good think, I just think it\'s bloody annoying... the whole thing.

You mean the same Rocky Horror Picture Show that was written by a Brit?Do you mean the sort of thing like \"Put your hand over your heart and say \"God Bless America!\"\"? :sick:

What I mean is that it got to the extreme where \"I want to break free\" was banned in America!

I think that often, America takes everything so seriously! \"Oh no! There\'s drag! You can\'t see it!\" or \"Oh no! There\'s magic! Dear lord, CURSE THE DIRECTOR OF THIS FILM!!!!!\"

The \"magic=satanic\" assumption was around in Britain in the 1400s when they executed people on suspicion of being witches. Now in America, witchcraft exists, but noone gets killed for it anymore. I just think that in 600 years, America hasn\'t moved on. Therefore is 600 years behind. I agree that this is probably more to do with the religiouse americans.

Because..either dressing in drag is \'offensive\' to children somehow, makes men \'uncomfortable\' to see it, or it\'s \'gay\' and oh no, we can\'t have gay things in America!



Blame that crap on uneducated southerners. \"Sure Scout, hars a rifle, go a shootin. But don\'t you dare read no Harrah Potter books ya hear! Thems be evil, KKK monthly sed so.\"

LOL! Hey! I though Southerners didnt like to read?

Anyways, Americas got some ups and downs, but does that mean that the bad things make america \"special?\" *cue corny music*

Hmmmm, some of you are missing the point. This isn\'t about \"threat\" or \"morals\" etc. This is about saying that things that can kill are less seriouse than hinting magic. It\'s about prioprities. It\'s about losing touch with reality. Or rather lost it cmpletely.

Hey, I resent that. I have you know I am growing up in the South, and I am a person who loves to read.:P

But other than that, yea. People in America have many problems, from being racial to being just utterly stupid. But those who try to be a better American,*points at those who needed to be pointed at*, try our best. But, some can only do what is in their power.

[Edited on 15-12-2004 by Enix1]

I also feel the need to point out that this stereotype is...partly false. The fact is that most southerners do not like to read, however I, a southerner, love to read. Broad generalizations should never be made, even though I sometimes make the mistake of making them, and yes, I did realize you were joking.

Addressing the Harry Potter magic deal, it says in the bible that all magic comes from satan, not from the 1400\'s, which may or may not be true, however, what people fail to realize is, Harry Potter is a fantasy book, a fanciful story meant to entertain. Those who claim that it mentions how to cast spells in the book don\'t realize that the \"spells\" are simply latin root words, prefixes, and suffixes that describe the effects of the \"spell.\" Of course, these ignorant fools simply forget that classics like The Lord of the Rings, and the several Authurian Myths also mention magic.

[Edited on 16-12-2004 by the_dreamer36]

I heard a funny thing, which may or may not be true. In the US army, there are entire regiments who specilize in bending spoons and walking through wals. I don\'t know if this is true, but I tell you now, I wouldn\'t be srprised if it was.

About Lord Of The Rings, they probably see the size of the book and stop reading before they\'ve even started. About the Myths and Legends, they aren\'t educated enough to think about them. Myths which were belived to be true at some point.

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[Edited on 18-12-2004 by Breakman]

Yeah, well you dun have to be so rude about it.....Jerk....

Thats all I have to say...

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[Edited on 18-12-2004 by Breakman]

dont worry im truly desapionted of my own country,its decadent,you dont have to apologize:(

I\'M AN AMERICAN, YA A$$! AMERICA\'S THE BEST! Canada is good, to. And there are the other good places, too. But whatever rock you crawled out of, you can crawl right back under, and then i\'ll step on it!

that was to beer blaster....

[Edited on 18-12-2004 by FLASH FORWARD]

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IMNOT SAYING THAN EVERYTHING IN AMERICA IS MEAN,just than the life stile is plastic and fake,....

Man, its new guys like beer that really want me to scream profanity at him.

( Must....RESIST!.....urge to be.....bad...rolemodel...to younger forumers.....)

Yo, beer man, there are younger members here so use pg to pg-13 language Or we\'ll put the ban hurt on ya!

[Edited on 18-12-2004 by Megaman Masta]